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SallyRand 08-12-2010 11:31 AM

It's All Bush's Fault!
 
Here's an opinion piece by Chuck Green who writes "Greener Pastures" for the Denver Post Aurora Sentinel...one of the more liberal papers in the country. Additionally, Mr. Green is a life long Democrat...so this is rather a stunning piece...


Obama is victim of Bush's failed promises
Greener Pastures Column -- 2/7/10

http://www.aurorasentinel.com/articl...2027520167.txt

Barack Obama is setting a record-setting number of records during his first year in office.
Largest budget ever. Largest deficit ever. Largest number of broken promises ever. Most self-serving speeches ever. Largest number of agenda-setting failures ever. Fastest dive in popularity ever.

Wow! Talk about change.

Just one year ago, fresh from his inauguration celebrations, President Obama was flying high. After one of the nation's most inspiring political campaigns, the election of America's first black president had captured the hopes and dreams of millions. To his devout followers, it was inconceivable that a year later his administration would be gripped in self-imposed crisis.

Of course, they don't see it as self-imposed. It's all George Bush's fault.

George Bush, who doesn't have a vote in congress and who no longer occupies the White House, is to blame for it all.

He broke Obama's promise to put all bills on the White House web site for five days before signing them.

He broke Obama's promise to have the congressional health care negotiations broadcast live on C-SPAN.

He broke Obama's promise to end earmarks.

He broke Obama's promise to keep unemployment from rising above 8 percent.

He broke Obama's promise to close the detention center at Guantanamo in the first year.

He broke Obama's promise to make peace with direct, no precondition talks with America's most hate-filled enemies during his first year in office, ushering in a new era of global cooperation.

He broke Obama's promise to end the hiring of former lobbyists into high White House jobs.

He broke Obama's promise to end no-compete contracts with the government.

He broke Obama's promise to disclose the names of all attendees at closed White House meetings.

He broke Obama's promise for a new era of bipartisan cooperation in all matters.

He broke Obama's promise to have chosen a home church to attend Sunday services with his family by Easter of last year.

Yes, it's all George Bush's fault. President Obama is nothing more than a puppet in the never-ending failed Bush administration.

If only George Bush wasn't still in charge, all of President Obama's problems would be solved. His promises would have been kept, the economy would be back on track, Iran would have stopped its work on developing a nuclear bomb and would be negotiating a peace treaty with Israel. North Korea would have ended its tyrannical regime, and integrity would have been restored to the federal government.

Oh, and did I mention what it would be like if the Democrats, under the leadership of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, didn't have the heavy yoke of George Bush around their necks? There would be no ear marks, no closed-door drafting of bills, no increase in deficit spending, no special-interest influence (unions), no vote buying (Nebraska, Louisiana).

If only George Bush wasn't still in charge, we'd have real change by now.

All the broken promises, all the failed legislation and delay (health care reform, immigration reform) is not President Obama's fault or the fault of the Democrat-controlled Congress. It's all George Bush's fault.

Take for example the decision of Eric Holder, the president's attorney general, to hold terrorists' trials in New York City. Or his decision to try the Christmas Day underpants bomber as a civilian.

Two disastrous decisions.

Certainly those were bad judgments based on poor advice from George Bush.

Need more proof?

You might recall that when Scott Brown won the election to the U.S. Senate from Massachusetts , capturing "the Ted Kennedy seat", President Obama said that Brown's victory was the result of the same voter anger that propelled Obama into office in 2008. People were still angry about George Bush and the policies of the past 10 years. And they wanted change.

Yes, according to the president, the voter rebellion in Massachusetts was George Bush's fault.

Therefore, in retaliation, they elected a Republican to the Ted Kennedy seat, ending a half-century of domination by Democrats. It is all George Bush's fault.

Will the failed administration of George Bush ever end, and the time for hope and change ever arrive?

Will President Obama ever accept responsibility for something... - anything?

(Chuck Green is a veteran Colorado journalist and former editor-in-chief of The Denver Post.)"

Read it and weep!

Sally.

ottopottomouse 08-12-2010 11:55 AM

Can I be the first to say I can't be bothered to read all that before everybody else does?

And I suppose I should be the first to say you're a fucking idiot too.

Carry on...

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17410501)
Can I be the first to say I can't be bothered to read all that before everybody else does?

And I suppose I should be the first to say you're a fucking idiot too.

Carry on...

that has got to be the dumbest post I have every heard, you're calling Sally a fucking idiot and stating you didn't even read it? what a fucking Troll!

ottopottomouse 08-12-2010 12:07 PM

You hear posts?

SallyRand 08-12-2010 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410532)
that has got to be the dumbest post I have every heard, you're calling Sally a fucking idiot and stating you didn't even read it? what a fucking Troll!

Thank you, Vendzilla and nicely put! You must remember though that Ottopottomouse is obviously infected with a severe if not terminal case of Obama Derangement Syndrome and lives in a socialist nation which still clings to a monarchy, albeit shattered and dangerously inbred. Further many in the UK are very angry at the USA for having saved its ass, not once but TWICE in World Wars, the first of which was, in point of fact, a war between cousins; grandsons of Victoria, which tells you just about as much as you need to know about the monarchy.

Thank you for your kind reply!

Sally.

Amputate Your Head 08-12-2010 12:33 PM

jesus.....









if I wanted to read shit like this, I'd go check email. Try see if you can rise above the level of that at least.

SallyRand 08-12-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17410623)
jesus.....









if I wanted to read shit like this, I'd go check email. Try see if you can rise above the level of that at least.

Then don't read it unless you are compelled by an invisible friend to do so!

;)

Sally.

Amputate Your Head 08-12-2010 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17410627)
Then don't read it unless you are compelled by an invisible friend to do so!

;)

Sally.

I've already seen how you guys react to people who don't read it first. No thank you.

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17410605)
Thank you, Vendzilla and nicely put! You must remember though that Ottopottomouse is obviously infected with a severe if not terminal case of Obama Derangement Syndrome and lives in a socialist nation which still clings to a monarchy, albeit shattered and dangerously inbred. Further many in the UK are very angry at the USA for having saved its ass, not once but TWICE in World Wars, the first of which was, in point of fact, a war between cousins; grandsons of Victoria, which tells you just about as much as you need to know about the monarchy.

Thank you for your kind reply!

Sally.

There are a lot of US servicement buried there

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17410623)
jesus.....









if I wanted to read shit like this, I'd go check email. Try see if you can rise above the level of that at least.

That was written by a liberal thats fed up with Obama and his lies, whats your problem with that?

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17410551)
You hear posts?

Yes, I hear voices in my head, but I've improved, I'm down to 23 voices

SallyRand 08-12-2010 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17410631)
I've already seen how you guys react to people who don't read it first. No thank you.

Good choice because if you haven't read it, you can't reply or comment intelligently on the OP. Not that you would reply intelligently anyway but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Sally.

theking 08-12-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17410431)
Here's an opinion piece by Chuck Green who writes "Greener Pastures" for the Denver Post Aurora Sentinel...one of the more liberal papers in the country. Additionally, Mr. Green is a life long Democrat...so this is rather a stunning piece...


Obama is victim of Bush's failed promises
Greener Pastures Column -- 2/7/10

http://www.aurorasentinel.com/articl...2027520167.txt

Barack Obama is setting a record-setting number of records during his first year in office.
Largest budget ever. Largest deficit ever. Largest number of broken promises ever. Most self-serving speeches ever. Largest number of agenda-setting failures ever. Fastest dive in popularity ever.

Wow! Talk about change.

Just one year ago, fresh from his inauguration celebrations, President Obama was flying high. After one of the nation's most inspiring political campaigns, the election of America's first black president had captured the hopes and dreams of millions. To his devout followers, it was inconceivable that a year later his administration would be gripped in self-imposed crisis.

Of course, they don't see it as self-imposed. It's all George Bush's fault.

George Bush, who doesn't have a vote in congress and who no longer occupies the White House, is to blame for it all.

He broke Obama's promise to put all bills on the White House web site for five days before signing them.

He broke Obama's promise to have the congressional health care negotiations broadcast live on C-SPAN.

He broke Obama's promise to end earmarks.

He broke Obama's promise to keep unemployment from rising above 8 percent.

He broke Obama's promise to close the detention center at Guantanamo in the first year.

He broke Obama's promise to make peace with direct, no precondition talks with America's most hate-filled enemies during his first year in office, ushering in a new era of global cooperation.

He broke Obama's promise to end the hiring of former lobbyists into high White House jobs.

He broke Obama's promise to end no-compete contracts with the government.

He broke Obama's promise to disclose the names of all attendees at closed White House meetings.

He broke Obama's promise for a new era of bipartisan cooperation in all matters.

He broke Obama's promise to have chosen a home church to attend Sunday services with his family by Easter of last year.

Yes, it's all George Bush's fault. President Obama is nothing more than a puppet in the never-ending failed Bush administration.

If only George Bush wasn't still in charge, all of President Obama's problems would be solved. His promises would have been kept, the economy would be back on track, Iran would have stopped its work on developing a nuclear bomb and would be negotiating a peace treaty with Israel. North Korea would have ended its tyrannical regime, and integrity would have been restored to the federal government.

Oh, and did I mention what it would be like if the Democrats, under the leadership of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, didn't have the heavy yoke of George Bush around their necks? There would be no ear marks, no closed-door drafting of bills, no increase in deficit spending, no special-interest influence (unions), no vote buying (Nebraska, Louisiana).

If only George Bush wasn't still in charge, we'd have real change by now.

All the broken promises, all the failed legislation and delay (health care reform, immigration reform) is not President Obama's fault or the fault of the Democrat-controlled Congress. It's all George Bush's fault.

Take for example the decision of Eric Holder, the president's attorney general, to hold terrorists' trials in New York City. Or his decision to try the Christmas Day underpants bomber as a civilian.

Two disastrous decisions.

Certainly those were bad judgments based on poor advice from George Bush.

Need more proof?

You might recall that when Scott Brown won the election to the U.S. Senate from Massachusetts , capturing "the Ted Kennedy seat", President Obama said that Brown's victory was the result of the same voter anger that propelled Obama into office in 2008. People were still angry about George Bush and the policies of the past 10 years. And they wanted change.

Yes, according to the president, the voter rebellion in Massachusetts was George Bush's fault.

Therefore, in retaliation, they elected a Republican to the Ted Kennedy seat, ending a half-century of domination by Democrats. It is all George Bush's fault.

Will the failed administration of George Bush ever end, and the time for hope and change ever arrive?

Will President Obama ever accept responsibility for something... - anything?

(Chuck Green is a veteran Colorado journalist and former editor-in-chief of The Denver Post.)"

Read it and weep!

Sally.

That article just indicates to me that he is a typical President...because in my lifetime every President has a long list of broken promises. It is easy to promise things when one does not know what the job of holding the Presidency actually entails...and once they hold the office...reality sets in.

ottopottomouse 08-12-2010 01:01 PM

Maybe you're both too intelligent to realise I was referring to every time someone copies and pastes something long without bothering to give their own short summarised opinion a load of the repliers comment on not being bothered to read it and a load more call the OP something rude.

It's the internet - not everything is real and some of us can turn the computer off and forget about it.

BlackCrayon 08-12-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410532)
that has got to be the dumbest post I have every heard, you're calling Sally a fucking idiot and stating you didn't even read it? what a fucking Troll!

there really isn't any point reading anything sally posts. by now, most people who post in these kinds of threads know her views and where the post will go without even reading the thread title.

TheDoc 08-12-2010 01:13 PM

It's not hard to break a promises that has to go through the house and the senate to be approved.... Why don't you redo that list to show what he "attempted" to do but was blocked, yelled at an ran through he mud for trying?

But you're correct...we should just totally ignore the past, like it didn't happen, it was a perfect world, heaven on earth and the day Obama took over it all changed, instantly it was all bad, instantly he did it all. Yeah, that's what you guys sound like, crazy!

theking 08-12-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17410777)
It's not hard to break a promises that has to go through the house and the senate to be approved.... Why don't you redo that list to show what he "attempted" to do but was blocked, yelled at an ran through he mud for trying?

But you're correct...we should just totally ignore the past, like it didn't happen, it was a perfect world, heaven on earth and the day Obama took over it all changed, instantly it was all bad, instantly he did it all. Yeah, that's what you guys sound like, crazy!

In addition...if one takes a historical perspective...generally speaking...policies made during any administration...usually take up to a decade or more...for the full ramification of said policies to become apparent...thus no current President can be blamed for or take credit for every aspect of the state of the Union...though they are and tough they do.

The Demon 08-12-2010 01:21 PM

The strawman arguments Doc introduces are truly priceless. It's funny though that the Liberals use Bush as an excuse for their fuckups.

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17410727)
Maybe you're both too intelligent to realise I was referring to every time someone copies and pastes something long without bothering to give their own short summarised opinion a load of the repliers comment on not being bothered to read it and a load more call the OP something rude.

It's the internet - not everything is real and some of us can turn the computer off and forget about it.

Maybe we just took the post at face value and couldn't read your mind?

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17410777)
It's not hard to break a promises that has to go through the house and the senate to be approved.... Why don't you redo that list to show what he "attempted" to do but was blocked, yelled at an ran through he mud for trying?

But you're correct...we should just totally ignore the past, like it didn't happen, it was a perfect world, heaven on earth and the day Obama took over it all changed, instantly it was all bad, instantly he did it all. Yeah, that's what you guys sound like, crazy!

the house and senate were both democrat controlled, so you can now try to come up with a different reason

The Demon 08-12-2010 01:27 PM

He has, it's Bush's fault!

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17410711)
That article just indicates to me that he is a typical President...because in my lifetime every President has a long list of broken promises. It is easy to promise things when one does not know what the job of holding the Presidency actually entails...and once they hold the office...reality sets in.

past presidents behavior is not going to change my mind about the current one, lies are lies

theking 08-12-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410811)
the house and senate were both democrat controlled, so you can now try to come up with a different reason

Which does not mean that all Democrats vote party line...just as not all Republicans vote party line. Most do...but not all.

theking 08-12-2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410823)
past presidents behavior is not going to change my mind about the current one, lies are lies

Yes...lies are lies...and have been told by every candidate that has ever run for the Presidency in my life time and my confidence level is high that lies will be told by every future candidate.

TheDoc 08-12-2010 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410811)
the house and senate were both democrat controlled, so you can now try to come up with a different reason

No.... it's still a fact, if Obama tries to push it through and they block it and you blame Obama... come on, only an idiot would actually blame Obama then and that's what's going on.

If you want to blame the Dem controlled Senate for blocking most of the shit, then say that - because it's true.

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17410825)
Which does not mean that all Democrats vote party line...just as not all Republicans vote party line. Most do...but not all.

the democrats are like herding cats to get them to vote, but still, they had the majority vote and they didn't use any of the odeas set forth by the GOP, to me, thats dividing the country, thats wrong
Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17410833)
Yes...lies are lies...and have been told by every candidate that has ever run for the Presidency in my life time and my confidence level is high that lies will be told by every future candidate.

I think this president made more promises than any other, and broke damn near all of them

But as soon as I found out he was from the Chicago political machine, I knew that would happen

EZRhino 08-12-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17410711)
That article just indicates to me that he is a typical President...because in my lifetime every President has a long list of broken promises. It is easy to promise things when one does not know what the job of holding the Presidency actually entails...and once they hold the office...reality sets in.

Sorry, I can't give the President a pass on these promises. I can't give liberals a pass on it either. Obama, was supposed to be the white knight, the Messiah, the man un tainted by politics. A black man that will be fair and non partisan about race and class. He is by far the biggest racist in public office and will destroy this country with endless debt.
The sickest part of all of it is that liberals knew about his agenda and voted for him anyways. We all knew he was a socialist, racist, puppet of the DNC, labor unions and public employee unions.

theking 08-12-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410845)
the democrats are like herding cats to get them to vote, but still, they had the majority vote and they didn't use any of the odeas set forth by the GOP, to me, thats dividing the country, thats wrong

Many of the ideas in the health care bill were proposed by Republicans and became a part of the bill...by some counts a couple of hundred...but they claim they were left out because they did not vote for the bill...as they did not want a health care bill...and certainly not one put through by the Democrats.

TheDoc 08-12-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410845)
I think this president made more promises than any other, and broke damn near all of them

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17410847)
Sorry, I can't give the President a pass on these promises. I can't give liberals a pass on it either.

You guys seem confused, let me clear the air.

PolitiFact has compiled more than 500 promises that Barack Obama made during the campaign and is tracking their progress on our Obameter.

20 Promises Broken... 120 kept, 38 compomise, 81 stalled, 243 in the works.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

He has kept more Promises than any other President in History.

theking 08-12-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17410847)
Sorry, I can't give the President a pass on these promises. I can't give liberals a pass on it either. Obama, was supposed to be the white knight, the Messiah, the man un tainted by politics. A black man that will be fair and non partisan about race and class. He is by far the biggest racist in public office and will destroy this country with endless debt.
The sickest part of all of it is that liberals knew about his agenda and voted for him anyways. We all knew he was a socialist, racist, puppet of the DNC, labor unions and public employee unions.

You apparently placed/place a lot of weight on media hype.

Black Ops 08-12-2010 01:49 PM

The world will beg for Jeb Bush by the time Obama is done. And they will get what they deserve.

ottopottomouse 08-12-2010 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410807)
Maybe we just took the post at face value and couldn't read your mind?

You really don't want to be able to read my mind :)

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17410859)
Many of the ideas in the health care bill were proposed by Republicans and became a part of the bill...by some counts a couple of hundred...but they claim they were left out because they did not vote for the bill...as they did not want a health care bill...and certainly not one put through by the Democrats.

Even eagan wanted a healthcare plan, but couldn't figure out how to make it work, Obama couldn't either, but passed it anyways

The Demon 08-12-2010 01:52 PM

Hey ottomouse, if that's a picture of you then i'd bang you to death. Now shut up, woman.

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17410879)
You really don't want to be able to read my mind :)

I doubt there's anything in there that can challenge me

TheDoc 08-12-2010 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410884)
Even eagan wanted a healthcare plan, but couldn't figure out how to make it work, Obama couldn't either, but passed it anyways

It's impossible to create a perfect system from the start but a damn good way to start is to get your foot in the door. Or we could take the same approach and do nothing which was failing all around us.

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17410861)
You guys seem confused, let me clear the air.

PolitiFact has compiled more than 500 promises that Barack Obama made during the campaign and is tracking their progress on our Obameter.

20 Promises Broken... 120 kept, 38 compomise, 81 stalled, 243 in the works.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

He has kept more Promises than any other President in History.

a lot of the promises they said he kept, I don't agree with

cambaby 08-12-2010 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Ops (Post 17410872)
The world will beg for Jeb Bush by the time Obama is done. And they will get what they deserve.

The world would never want Jeb Bush, because he would be pro-American-fuck-the-world President.

Fuck anyone not from the USA seriously fuck all of you pieces of shit, well except Australians.

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17410891)
It's impossible to create a perfect system from the start but a damn good way to start is to get your foot in the door. Or we could take the same approach and do nothing which was failing all around us.

a good start would be less than 2300 pages that no one could or did read

TheDoc 08-12-2010 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410897)
a lot of the promises they said he kept, I don't agree with

Even if you took 25% of them out, he still kept more than any other President. End of the day, he has been working to keep his word, far more than any other President, even if you don't like them - he still has done it.

theking 08-12-2010 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17410891)
It's impossible to create a perfect system from the start but a damn good way to start is to get your foot in the door. Or we could take the same approach and do nothing which was failing all around us.

In addition...it has not even been fully implemented and won't be for several years...and President Obama will not be in office...when the full ramifications of the Health Care Bill becomes apparent. Also parts of it are currently being challenged in the courts...as well as changes to the bill will probably be made by Congress over the coming years...thus it will be years before we know if it is a good thing or a bad thing.


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