In cases like this it helps remember Barry is the other name of the president

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ford (born Leslie Lynch King, Jr.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton (William Jefferson "Bill" Clinton born William Jefferson Blythe III)

His birth certificate was verified by Linda Lingle, Governor of Hawaii, where he was born. Lingle is a republican. Must be a conspiracy.

ohhh..... ohh :upsidedow

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

That explains it. :1orglaugh

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...irthHawaii.jpg
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Barry Soetoro really is his other name



It's not worth the time to even coment on, because once a president is in office, they wipe all his records and label them top secret, thats the law, so why waste the time on it

So then why continue to hammer on it? It's meaningless now.

Bush was a heavy drinker and a coke fiend, but everyone let that go after they saw what an idiot he was without substances. :)

Just because I call him Barry? People had a problem with me calling him Obamanation, but ok, I'll just call him Obamanation then

I really don't give a fuck what he did, he's not the president anymore. And according to polls, most people don't blame him for the economy anymore
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._47_blame_bush

LOL, you can call him Peter Pan for all I care. I have no horse in this race. I'm against them all. :)

So am I, I just want a real leader and neither party has one

Both Gerald Ford and Bill Clinton names changed because there mothers remarried, at the age of 3 and 1, i don't think they had much say in the matter.

Certification Of Live Birth is not the same as a Birth Certificate in the state of Hawaii.

Neither did Obama, his parents signed him up for school in Indonesia and picked that name for him to use in a School.

Yes it is... it's common in most States.

Source: "Whereas the long form is a copy of the actual birth certificate, a short form is a document that certifies the existence of such certificate, and is given a title such as "Certification of Birth", "Certification of Live Birth", or "Certificate of Birth Registration."[citation needed] The short form typically includes the child's name, date of birth, sex, and place of birth, although some also include the names of the child's parents. When the certification does include the names of the parents, it can be used in lieu of a long form birth certificate in almost all circumstances [22]. Nearly all states in the U.S. issue short forms certifications, on both state and local levels"

http://www.walford.ca/whitewater/actionsm.JPG

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Here is what the State of Hawaii?s official government websites publish about the matter:

QUOTE: ?The Certification of Live Birth is a legal document, but it is TOTALLY INADEQUATE when it comes to proving an individual was born in Hawaii.

The State of Hawaii DOES NOT EVEN ACCEPT the Certification of Live Birth as valid proof that an individual was born in Hawaii.

Im not sure how much more clear it can be, but in case you need a visual.

What are the different types of Birth Documentation in Hawaii
The constitution demands ?natural born? so as to mitigate the possibility of "divided loyalties"

Anyone can swear and sign the form to the registrar in Hawaii that they were a citizen of Hawaii and within the previous year gave birth. The individual gives the date/time of the birth and a document record is dually entered. Perhaps someone can inform as to whether you even need to show the baby! Doesn?t look like it from my read of the statute.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscur...-0017_0008.htm

One can get a ?Certificate of Live Birth? with its minimal documentation. The date of birth can be any date the person enters, This document can be used to then establish citizenship for the purpose of getting a passport, but its lack of physically identifying information found on the "Birth Certificate" precludes it from being useful in proving "Natural Born" status.

The normal ?Birth Certificate? has uniquely identifying information along with eyewitness?s (doctor, nurse, orderly) and the specific location so that it is now verifiable and traceable.

CERTIFICATION

http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvo...s/image001.jpg

CERTIFICATE

http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvo...s/image002.jpg

That url you posted does not say the words "Certificates of Live Birth" at all. With the two certs you posted, both are different years and different hospitals. My sister and myself were born in the same hospital, different years, and our certs are completely different.

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl
Now this does say "Certificates of Live Birth" ....

Birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth and Certifications of Live Birth) and Certificates of Hawaiian Birth are the primary documents used to determine native Hawaiian qualification.

The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because they are official government records documenting an individual?s birth


We done now?

You wish! I can suck the chrome off of a trailer hitch ball but you'll never find out!

You'll dream about it but you'll never find out.

I try to suck out the brains but you just don't have any!

LOL!

Not to mention what I can do for my GF's little thing down there!

You poor, poor thing,you! How frustrated you must be! No wonder you're in the adult business!

Vicarious satisfaction and all that!

Sally.

Haha, what a pathetic attempt to troll.. I'm sure your fake female ass sucks a ton of chrome off cocks and I'm damn sure Amp doesn't want to find out how good you are.

Seriously, if your going to try and effect us with your lame trolling abilities you might want to spice up the affects a little, try to wow us just a tiny bit.

Fresh page for the trolls to feed on.

Apology To GFY!
 

You know, even though I started this thread, I have to write this.

We are all in the same boat, regardless of our political leanings. We are here on GFY because we market adult and we should be a solid, Gung Ho community, not a community polarized by our individual politics.

We are, for the most part, experiencing declining incomes due to many different factors and instead of infighting, we should be working together to improve our general lot. I spent the day posting to Craigslist because I need some softs and programs and adult is not generating the required funds. We are all in a jam and should be freely, openly and happily going after it; sharing what we know works and helping each oather instead of engaging in the kind of name calling, bantering and time-wasting of which I am also guilty.

I'm not after anyone's niche or market and very few others are after anyone else's niche. The internet is a big place and there is room for all of us!

I apologize for antagonizing; this thread turned into much more than I had intended but I learned something and we really don't have time to play these sorts of games. We should be pounding away at blogs with our links instead of blogging about politics, as we can't realy do anything about them anyway.

If any of us had spent one-tenth the time promoting our biz that we have spent arguing about politics, we might well have earned a few bucks. Things are tough out there but as they say, "When the going gets tough, the tough get going!" and we're tough or we wouldn't be in this biz!

I'm for a sort of Ground Zero/Level Playing Field restart on this.

How about you?

Thanks for reading.

Sally.