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nico-t 07-12-2010 01:54 AM

what's going on? Why are sales so down
 
normally combined ratio for everything is 1:2000
this month its 1:8500

how can this happen, what the fuck is going on?? this is not a simple summer slowdown.

bns666 07-12-2010 02:12 AM

same shit here :(

Jarmusch 07-12-2010 02:31 AM

http://rationallythinkingoutloud.fil..._bob_large.gif
We are having a record sales month. Everything is great.

TeenCat 07-12-2010 02:32 AM

it must be that hockey or what or, i dont know :)

officegirl2006 07-12-2010 02:57 AM

world cup maybe in europe, i know its not big in usa but is elsewhere...

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maxxtro 07-12-2010 02:58 AM

Google "depression".


ro8in 07-12-2010 03:07 AM

Your going down mate

Agent 488 07-12-2010 05:23 AM

yesterday was brutal, but i guess it was because of the footballs.

seeandsee 07-12-2010 05:38 AM

i blame tubes and evil obama

ro8in 07-12-2010 05:46 AM

Your all going down, adult is over. Get off the boat while its still floating..

scarlettcontent 07-12-2010 05:51 AM

foorball is over, maybe it picks up

Serial Pervert 07-12-2010 05:56 AM

same here D:

tonyparra 07-12-2010 06:58 AM

the guys with emails take all your sales and sponsors dont care :)

96ukssob 07-12-2010 10:10 AM

tubes + summertime = low sales :2 cents:

andrej_NDC 07-12-2010 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17328231)
yesterday was brutal, but i guess it was because of the footballs.

Yes and today doesn't look good, too.

SomeCreep 07-12-2010 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 17327990)
normally combined ratio for everything is 1:2000
this month its 1:8500

how can this happen, what the fuck is going on?? this is not a simple summer slowdown.

3 years from now, you'll wish your ratios were still as good as 1:8500.

stever 07-12-2010 01:37 PM

all sites are going a storm

pimp3611 07-12-2010 01:39 PM

Will be a great month for myself if it keeps up

overall 1:900

WarChild 07-12-2010 01:42 PM

Traffic is a little down this month which I attribute to World Cup, but my ratio is 1:429 unique over all which is actually better than my ytd 1:470 unique.

Horny Dude 07-12-2010 01:48 PM

Let's see: the economy is in the crapper, 2 mil+ are unemployed, summertime, more free porn out there than ever. Yeah I would expect porn revenue to be down.

NaughtyRob 07-12-2010 01:52 PM

Lets all hope it picks up, try something new. :-)

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Argos88 07-12-2010 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 17327990)
normally combined ratio for everything is 1:2000
this month its 1:8500

how can this happen, what the fuck is going on?? this is not a simple summer slowdown.

Are you serious?

Man, open your eyes.. can't you see the current situation of the business??, for long time now... no news at all...

can't believe poeple are so naive, seriously.

.

AmeliaG 07-12-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horny Dude (Post 17329611)
Let's see: the economy is in the crapper, 2 mil+ are unemployed, summertime, more free porn out there than ever. Yeah I would expect porn revenue to be down.


Yeah that.

BittieBucks 07-12-2010 06:14 PM

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Vjo 07-12-2010 08:03 PM

I have one prog this period (7-1 to 1-15) using nats 4 that had around 15 submits from the signup page and 0 signups.
So something is wrong.

So I look at last period 6-16 to 6-30
and I had almost the same number of submits (15) and had 7 signups.

Sooo maybe the processors... or maybe not.. who knows.

Happens sometimes where hardly nothing goes thru for a period. Then next period things will probably be back. I have no idea why.

I also had an even better first period of June. (submits to joins) So I guess this period is my turn to suck dick. :)

Rick Diculous 07-12-2010 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 17328030)
http://rationallythinkingoutloud.fil..._bob_large.gif
We are having a record sales month. Everything is great.

Classic!!!:1orglaugh

Agent 488 07-12-2010 08:11 PM

adapt or die.

SallyRand 07-12-2010 08:17 PM

Coming out of both retail and wholesale sales in "real-world" things, I learned long ago that when sales get tough, the tough get going!

Traffic results in conversions. If you're not getting enough conversions it necessarily follows that you're not getting enough traffic. There are about 900 free ways to get traffic.

How many of them are you using?

Sally.

fatfoo 07-12-2010 08:17 PM

1:8500, that sucks a lot. Good luck with your future conversions.

BigDeanEvans 07-12-2010 08:26 PM

They now call it the summer shave down.

2MuchMark 07-12-2010 08:30 PM

1:336 since July 1st,
1:85 since July 8th.

http://www.livecamnetwork.com


:Kissmy

tical 07-12-2010 08:33 PM

Traffic is up, sales are down. Ratios are turning to absolute crap. I don't see how the "summer slowdown" applies when you're still getting the same amount (or more) hits. If hits were down, then I'd buy into that theory.

Scrubbing is insanely high these days not to mention, so many customers have been fucked over by questionable billing practices that they've been forced to charge back at some point. Now these customers are in negative databases. Even if they legitimately want to sign up to site, they're declined off the bat.

SallyRand 07-12-2010 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tical (Post 17330487)
Traffic is up, sales are down. Ratios are turning to absolute crap. I don't see how the "summer slowdown" applies when you're still getting the same amount (or more) hits. If hits were down, then I'd buy into that theory.

Scrubbing is insanely high these days not to mention, so many customers have been fucked over by questionable billing practices that they've been forced to charge back at some point. Now these customers are in negative databases. Even if they legitimately want to sign up to site, they're declined off the bat.

Much of what you have written has validity but I'd like to ask a few questions here, if you don't mind.

How many sites do you have up and running?

What methods are you using to promote those sites?

Do you believe that traffic is up for you alone, or across the board.

In either case, could you present some form of documentation which indicates that traffic is indeed up? Not doubting you; only trying to learn.

Thanks.

Sally.

Agent 488 07-12-2010 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17330498)
Much of what you have written has validity but I'd like to ask a few questions here, if you don't mind.

How many sites do you have up and running?

What methods are you using to promote those sites?

Do you believe that traffic is up for you alone, or across the board.

In either case, could you present some form of documentation which indicates that traffic is indeed up? Not doubting you; only trying to learn.

Thanks.

Sally.

oh shut it.

SallyRand 07-12-2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17330503)
oh shut it.


Thank you for your kind but totally irresponsive reply.

Sally.

Vjo 07-12-2010 08:43 PM

You can only go so many hits in a period (compared to two previously good periods) without a single fucking signup. I mean I know statisticly things can swing but, as a wm I also know how far they can swing and it is only so far.

So take your thumb off the fucking button for fuck's sake.

Is it possible to shave with nats 4 or not? I have read varying opinions.

They say bitchin on gfy shakes it up.. :winkwink: we'll see.

This only applies to one prog, the rest of your are doing, and looking, absolutely marvelous. :thumbsup :)

I mean the few of you. :) Forget about the 50 progs I still have to pull links on.

The good news. (for Nifty) Looks like I will be buying it as I will have more than 15 good progs afterall. Hurray!

Vjo 07-12-2010 09:39 PM

I hear Pro Traffic has some pretty good traffic if all you need to do is increase numbers.

Documentation? lol That's funny. Sally, you're funnier than me and Big Dean combined. :)

Its now called the Summer Shave Down. lol

My nuts are getting a little razor burn here. :)

MetaMan 07-12-2010 09:47 PM

Adult is in big trouble for another 2 years before it picks up again.

Visa and Mastercard came in and did a shit canning on alot of processors for allowing cross sales and shady rebills where terms were not stated properly.

this is basically how 90% of adult programs have been operating for the past 2 years+. this is how they afforeded to pay all you idiots high PPS. basically banging peoples cards. Visa and Mastercard came in and said enough is enough and forced processors to clean up their act in mainstream and adult.

the processors feeling the heat have shit canned almost everyone who even remotely reeks of anything that is not pure white hat techniques. there are still a few people around who have connections in billing but if you promote them you are only playing with fire as merchants can lock go in and lock accounts without even blinking an eye. which is happening left right and center.

so what you have had happen imo is sponsors are A) either forced to close down B) know that their currents methods are going to be shut down so they are milking whatever they can while they can.

the only people being approved are white hat sites with large backing of capital. smaller people will be approved but they are capping those accounts at ridiculously low maximums like $25 000. leaving no space to even process for affiliates.

Adult is overall deemed by Visa and Mastercard as a high risk industry and it is only going to get worse.

It will be a long while before things open up again and there will only be a few left. and as risk becomes less and less viable affiliates will be pushed out of the game further and further.

Barefootsies 07-12-2010 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17330597)
Adult is in big trouble for another 2 years before it picks up again.

Visa and Mastercard came in and did a shit canning on alot of processors for allowing cross sales and shady rebills where terms were not stated properly.

this is basically how 90% of adult programs have been operating for the past 2 years+. this is how they afforeded to pay all you idiots high PPS. basically banging peoples cards. Visa and Mastercard came in and said enough is enough and forced processors to clean up their act in mainstream and adult.

the processors feeling the heat have shit canned almost everyone who even remotely reeks of anything that is not pure white hat techniques. there are still a few people around who have connections in billing but if you promote them you are only playing with fire as merchants can lock go in and lock accounts without even blinking an eye. which is happening left right and center.

so what you have had happen imo is sponsors are A) either forced to close down B) know that their currents methods are going to be shut down so they are milking whatever they can while they can.

the only people being approved are white hat sites with large backing of capital. smaller people will be approved but they are capping those accounts at ridiculously low maximums like $25 000. leaving no space to even process for affiliates.

Adult is overall deemed by Visa and Mastercard as a high risk industry and it is only going to get worse.

It will be a long while before things open up again and there will only be a few left. and as risk becomes less and less viable affiliates will be pushed out of the game further and further.

This actually sums it up perfectly.
:thumbsup


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