I think its time Arizona sees a real Day Without a Mexican
 

"A Day Without a Mexican" is a mocumentary about what would happen if all of the mexicans suddenly vanished from California.

Gay rights advocates staged a "Day without a Gay" to call attention to their plight.

Maybe it's time Arizona saw what a REAL day without a mexican might be like. :2 cents:

How exactly did the "day without a gay" go? Do all gays take on gay specific jobs that no straights would ever touch? I don't really get it.

We could do "Day without a cripple" and everybody could finally park towards the front of the Wal-Mart parking lot.

Who would get the fries then?

I'm in Arizona and let me tell you its bad here. Real bad. Sheriff Joe is the only person doing something about it.

You can think what you want but spend a day in South Tucson and you'll see why we call it a problem.

ever seen "a day without white people"? it's a doc about the economic success of zimbabwe.

Go drive by the Arizona Dept. of Economic Security and see the line out the door of Mexicans trying to get free money, food stamps, and free health. It's disgusting.

That would be "day w/ a gay". Here is Day Without-
http://daywithoutagay.wetpaint.com/

Arizona does not have problem with Mexicans. It has problems with illegal aliens. Why is that so hard for some of you to understand? How fucking dense are some of you?

:2 cents::thumbsup

I'm not saying there is not a problem. I have spent my share of time in Arizona. I am afraid to drive on your roads. :winkwink:

It just seems like there are better ways to do things. I don't think the law needs to be changed so drastically, I think that before editing legislation they could do a better job policing the laws already in place.

If a cop / sheriff wants probable cause to investigate a business they suspect of hiring illegals they can find it w/o playing the race card or needing to change the law so it takes the race card out of play. Just look at all the tricks the DEA pulls out, employ some of those tactics here.

Christ, just sit across the street from a Home Depot parking lot and follow trucks to the jobsite. Write them a ticket for moving violation for having unseatbelted individuals in the back and follow the trail of crumbs from there.

I don't have all the answers, but we have to find a happy medium between dropping people into internment camps and bending over backwards giving handouts to a family of 6 with an anchor baby.

you ever fuck a mexican?

Does this guy look familiar?
http://www.motofoto.cc/1893314-R5-024-10A.jpg

How about these guys?
http://www.fox5sandiego.com/media/ph...6/47385847.jpg

Or these?
http://www.foxnews.com/images/284882...nts_mexico.jpg

I get that, but the laws that are being enacted compromise the rights of mexicans and hispanics in the area.

They aren't going to be stopping white people with eastern european accents and asking for papers.

If the Illegals actually took a day off the news wouldn't have anything to report.

Yes great "Show me your papers" when are they creating the gulag?

Here is what I will be doing...
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The laws AZ have are the same Federal laws we have.

And they don't ask for your papers.. they ask for your ID, like they do now.. and when you don't have it, they ask for your papers, just like they do now.

The difference is, they can process them now as a criminal.

Yes they will ask a person here that is white with an accent for ID. It will probably get to the point that everyone one day will be asked to carry proof of citizenship. I don't see the big deal with that since Europe does that already and so does Mexico. Mexico does the same exact thing to white tourists. :2 cents:

I agree there has to be a better way but at this point I'm happy to see any change. Before if the cops came across an illegal they passed them over to the border patrol who would then just drop them off at the border. That illegal would just come right back! Now they are going to arrest them for trespassing.

When a cop pulls me over the first thing he asks for is my Drivers License. Whats the big deal if the cop asks if I'm a citizen or not?

Yes really its great, get rid of all the illegals so all of the legals can get shit wage day labor work and go landscape Martha Stewart's desert chalet..right.

they just made racial profiling legal so now the cops can harass anyone who looks hispanic...that's american as apple pie.

Many states have vagrancy laws, where if you get stopped and you don't have ID and X amount of $$ in your pocket you can be processed.

I don't have a problem with that. I only have a problem with routing around probable cause. I see it as a slippery slope.

I don't buy that they need to change the law to better enforce immmigration when they aren't using the laws that existed previously to their full extent.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who's hiring under the table- papers or no papers. Crack the fuck down, raise the penalties on these companies, buy more cops, better patrol the boarder, etc etc

Just my :2 cents:

Weird, I thought it was already a law to always have your ID with you?

Racial profiling is what they do with illegals in mexico... then they lock them up.


The law you're bitching about is already a federal law... and racial profiling is illegal with both - which means if a Mexican was walking down the street doing nothing and a cop stops them for no reason to ask for proof of citizenship or an ID. Profiling rules have been put into the law, cop and department can be sued, job lost, and so on.

There is plenty of legal Mexicans who will do the jobs that the illegals were doing.

Arizona Population: 6,595,778
Arizona Est. Illegals: 460,000

the business lobby will reverse this once their wage costs go up.

feel free to bump this in a year or two when i'm proved right.

When a cop pulls you over or asks for ID they have to have a reason. Your tail light was out, you were speeding, etc.

Arizona law is saying now they don't need a reason.

Federal Immigration Laws say if you're visiting the Country you must keep your Passport or Papers on you.

They are using the laws to fullest extent, so much that they are forced to use the employment laws to bust illegals to go around profiling bullshit simply because they know they're all illegals.

This law brings in 3,000 more national guard to the border... The cities have no money to get cops, the border patrol is hiring as fast as they can (largest growing job in the area) and our our State is 15 million in the hole, not hard to figure out the big reason.

not talking about mexico.

wrong, Arizona has now passed legislation making it legal for a cop to stop anyone they suspect of being an illegal, meaning they can stop any person of hispanic descent even though they could be legal.

That is such bullshit... it clearly, very very clearly says you must have probable cause and anti-profiling parts to it as well, making the cop directly responsible and the department.

Where do you people get this shit?

No, they can't racial profile you... besides that being against like 10 state laws it violates like 50 federal laws.

The law AZ enacted is damn near a duplicate of the Federal laws.. EDUCATE YOURSELF..

That isn't right. I think its they don't have to have a reason to ask for your ID but they can't stop you just for the hell of it. They have to have a reason to stop you in the first place. Not just because they saw a Mexican and pulled him over.

you are correct, this will hit the AZ economy hard guaranteed. its just a racist law passed by a bunch of white twats who cannot fathom the consequences.

Difference is they aren't going to be locking up LEGAL citizens. It's an inconvenience for citizens at the worst. If you have the proper documentation you're good to go.

Hit it harder than the 15 million it's in the hole now because of illegals?


Most of the people in power in this state are Latino... your racist excuses are bullshit in a state that is majority Latino. My neighbors that support this are from Mexico too.

If they were already doing everything they could before this law went into effect there wouldn't be swarms of undocumented day laborers swarming the home depot parking lots. Illegals or maybe even just people down on their luck (but let's face it, mostly illegals) these are people who are getting paid under the table and less than minimum wage. I'm just throwing that out there because it is the most obvious example, this shit goes on all over the country too, not just AZ, you;d be surprised but there is a large illegal population in places like South Carolina too, but back to the point-

Track these companys down and fine the living fuck out of them. Raise the fines = more money for state government to buy more cops. Make companies abide by federal hiring practices = more money for the state, more money for more cops and more money for social programs such as unemployment for all the legal workers in AZ.

That's just the one piece of the puzzle I see. I say give it time, they will come up with something less drastic that will get the job done, though it won't be over night. It took years to get this bad it will take years to fix. I don't live out there but I have alot of friends who do. I know its fucked, but when something gets that far gone you cant bend civil liberties so far the other way you over correct.

Tons of them here selling crack and ripping off the working man by the multiple B&E's.Take back your citizens USA!

Shelly and a big thing is those check cashing places. The illegals I know all cash their checks there.