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boneprone 12-04-2002 11:54 PM

New CC Bill Fee on My Check Stub
 
On my affilate check I got today I noticed a "CC Bill Fee"


ANyone else notice this on thier stubs?

Before on these check stubs the only deduction Id notice on the check was the - 0.37 for the "transfer cost" fee. (for mailing it i guess)

Now Im getting more fees.
On this one little 80.00 check they took out -12.47 for this "CC Bill Fee" and 0.37 for the "transfer fee."

What the fuck is it? I dont even push many programs using CC Bill so this is all new to me.. Did I miss something?

WHat the fuck is it and are you guys getting this also?

They charging affilates 15% transactions fees now in addition to the paysite owners?? WTF?

X37375787 12-04-2002 11:55 PM

that fee has always been there, hasn't it ? :eek7

LUCL0NELY 12-04-2002 11:56 PM

bnoeprone. can you ICQ me ASAP please.

Theo 12-04-2002 11:57 PM

mine has only a transfer cost $0.80
the ccbill fee is $0.00

Theo 12-04-2002 11:57 PM

you have been served

BrettJ 12-04-2002 11:59 PM

Hey bone

here's the skinny....

membership cost the surfer 30 bucks.

partnership program cuts the webmaster 50%.

now the paysite is getting 15 bucks and the webmaster is getting 15 bucks.

Some paysites decide to pay the processing fee 11.5% - 14.5% (variable based on size) for just the 15 dollars that they are getting and some choose to pay the entire processing fee on the full 30$.

If you haven't noticed the processing fee in the past - it means you were pushing programs that choose to ate the fee themselves

X37375787 12-05-2002 12:00 AM

Lucl0nley, you're such a demented psychopath.

boneprone 12-05-2002 12:01 AM

ok, I only pust 2 programs using ccbill.

I push PiggyCash, and I have like a hundred check stubs in front of me now, and they all have ZERO for this CC BILL fee.

On a second account I pust Join Right Now, its new for me and it seems all the checks Ive gotten from that program VIA CC BILL have a 15% fee!

Takin 15% out of EVERY CHECK!

maxcom 12-05-2002 12:04 AM

where in CCBill can this option be turned on/off ? I don't see it.

Sly_RJ 12-05-2002 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
ok, I only pust 2 programs using ccbill.

I push PiggyCash, and I have like a hundred check stubs in front of me now, and they all have ZERO for this CC BILL fee.

On a second account I pust Join Right Now, its new for me and it seems all the checks Ive gotten from that program VIA CC BILL have a 15% fee!

Takin 15% out of EVERY CHECK!

I recently started Join Right Now. I'll let you know what I find after I get my first check...

boneprone 12-05-2002 12:09 AM

I dont know, but if you find out turn it off.

Fuck, 15% of my check?

boneprone 12-05-2002 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrettJ
Hey bone

here's the skinny....

membership cost the surfer 30 bucks.

partnership program cuts the webmaster 50%.

now the paysite is getting 15 bucks and the webmaster is getting 15 bucks.

Some paysites decide to pay the processing fee 11.5% - 14.5% (variable based on size) for just the 15 dollars that they are getting and some choose to pay the entire processing fee on the full 30$.

If you haven't noticed the processing fee in the past - it means you were pushing programs that choose to ate the fee themselves


Ok, I see now.

So in my case does this mean we are splitting this ccbill fee, or am i paying the whole thing?

This is all new to me. Ive never seen this before.

Theo 12-05-2002 12:11 AM

they'll go to poor people :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

boneprone 12-05-2002 12:11 AM

dont take this as a bash on Join Right Now, the program is solid and kicks ass!

Im just wondering what the fuck this fee is doing on my check is all.

Theo 12-05-2002 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LUCL0NELY


who gives a fuck about your check? Let's focus on the moving shit.

are you threatening me punk?

X37375787 12-05-2002 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


are you threatening me punk?


no, he's not.

r-c-e 12-05-2002 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LUCL0NELY


who gives a fuck about your check? Let's focus on the moving shit.

Weren't we talking about CCBill checks? or only CCBill checks of people you like Luc?

LUCL0NELY 12-05-2002 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


are you threatening me punk?

no, i am not.

LUCL0NELY 12-05-2002 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by r-c-e


Weren't we talking about CCBill checks? or only CCBill checks of people you like Luc?

gp back to the main point. 4 now.

Theo 12-05-2002 12:16 AM

fabulous :glugglug

Sly_RJ 12-05-2002 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone



Ok, I see now.

So in my case does this mean we are splitting this ccbill fee, or am i paying the whole thing?

This is all new to me. Ive never seen this before.

Looks like the affiliate is swallowing the whole fee. Bummer.

Long as they keep pumping out good quality free content, I don't care.

E-Randy 12-05-2002 12:21 AM

CCBill allows the sponsor to absorb the entire proc fee, half of it or pass it all to the affiliate. It's not a smart move to pass it all.

boneprone 12-05-2002 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Looks like the affiliate is swallowing the whole fee. Bummer.

Long as they keep pumping out good quality free content, I don't care.

Yeah i dont really care either.
I just wanted to know what this fee is.

So does this mean its not really a 50/50?
More of a 65/35 partnership program?

BrettJ 12-05-2002 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxcom
where in CCBill can this option be turned on/off ? I don't see it.
the affiliates can't turn it off... only the program owner.


Bone - most likely the program just has you pay the processing fee on the money you actually take home so in the previous example the 15% is taken out of the 15$ dollars. It's pretty standard.

BTW - why the fuck aren't you pushing DA you piece of shit

boneprone 12-05-2002 12:35 AM

but wait, im not paying the entire fee.
I think im paying half of the fee.

15% is taken from my check, im sure 15% is taken from their end too.

We must be splitting the Fee.

BrettJ 12-05-2002 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone


Yeah i dont really care either.
I just wanted to know what this fee is.

So does this mean its not really a 50/50?
More of a 65/35 partnership program?


No. Most likely you are both paying a processing fee on your share - so it's still 50/50...

30$ sale.

15$ for affiliate minus 15% = gross take home = 12.75
15$ for program owner minus 15% = gross take home = 12.75

boneprone 12-05-2002 12:40 AM

ahh I see

Shoplifter 12-05-2002 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
On a second account I pust Join Right Now, its new for me and it seems all the checks Ive gotten from that program VIA CC BILL have a 15% fee!

Takin 15% out of EVERY CHECK!


Yep I have noticed this recently as well. So in fact it is a 35% net program rather than a 50% gross program.

:feels-hot

boneprone 12-05-2002 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shoplifter



Yep I have noticed this recently as well. So in fact it is a 35% net program rather than a 50% gross program.

:feels-hot

Actually its still a 50/50 but the fee is part of the 50/50 also.

Its just you arent making 50% of the revenue, you are making 50% after fees.

Shoplifter 12-05-2002 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone


Actually its still a 50/50 but the fee is part of the 50/50 also.

Its just you arent making 50% of the revenue, you are making 50% after fees.

Which is 35% of the gross. With my other 50% programs I get 50% of the gross.

boneprone 12-05-2002 01:09 AM

I think this may be how many 60/40 rev share programs used to market??

It was 60% before the fees, which in fact made it more into a 50-50 program in the end when you get the check.

Theo 12-05-2002 01:10 AM

not good

Theo 12-05-2002 01:11 AM

I think this may be how many 60/40 rev share programs used to market??


good point

Funkito 12-05-2002 01:23 AM

Just to touch on the math here:

If the sign-up is thirty bucks; and your 50% is 15.00; minus 15%

Your actual net percentage of the sign-up is 42.5% (not 35%)

Still not a smoking percentage though...

extreme 12-05-2002 01:54 AM

Actually, got a very small CCBill check today.

Gross: $37,41
CCBill Fee: -$5.18
Transfer Cost: -$0.80
Net: $31.43


... 13% cut of with their "Fee" . Not that it mattered much on this check, cause of the small gross.

TheFLY 12-05-2002 02:00 AM

HOLY SHIT! a little here a little there they are sucking us dry.

FUCK MAN THIS IS BULLSHIT

NETbilling 12-05-2002 02:04 AM

Perfect reason to push some programs that run their own merchant accounts like
Fetishcash and Wasteland's program.

No processing fees and the merchants control their own scrub levels = max conversions.

Mitch

TheFLY 12-05-2002 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
Perfect reason to push some programs that run their own merchant accounts like
Fetishcash and Wasteland's program.

Wasteland what? What's the URL never heard of it...

?

boneprone 12-05-2002 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
Perfect reason to push some programs that run their own merchant accounts like
Fetishcash and Wasteland's program.

No processing fees and the merchants control their own scrub levels = max conversions.

Mitch

Those programs cant even hold join right now's jock strap.

Join right now could make the shit 30/70 and we'd still do better.

Come on.

The issue isnt the program, the issue was this weird fee I had no idea what it was.

Its no biggie. Im sure the other processors take this fee out on us as well one way or another, and you never know.

Only reason we know is becasue ccbill puts it on thier stub.

NETbilling 12-05-2002 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY


Wasteland what? What's the URL never heard of it...

?

Wasteland.com is one of the main sites

http://www.spicecash.com/ps/ is their program

Colin Rowntree's sites.

Mitch


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