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Paul Markham 03-16-2009 05:08 AM

Chemo sucks big time.
 
Just back from the hospital and 6 days of intense chemotherapy. And it was tough. Started Tuesday and it was fine through to Friday, then it started to take effect. No energy, appetite and vomiting. Now I have to build my strength and weight, lost 4 kilos, to go back in 3 weeks for another session.

My advice to everyone here is kick smoking, cut down drinking and take more exercise. You don't want this.

Tam 03-16-2009 05:11 AM

Ouch. all the best to you, Paul...... you will be in my thoughts. I've had a few family members go thru this and it isn't pleasant at all. Good luck to you hon.

I have started my trek towards not smoking anymore now, so with any luck, I won't be smoking by this time next month. And I never have been a drinker and thanks to Diabetes, I get more excercise now. :thumbsup

The Duck 03-16-2009 05:16 AM

My best goes to you Paul I hope and pray for your swift recovery.

Oracle Porn 03-16-2009 05:18 AM

that sucks man...i smoke daily and dont exercise...either im gonna see you in the chemo hallway soon or i need to start exercising... :(

chemicaleyes 03-16-2009 05:23 AM

Best wishes Paul :)

SilentKnight 03-16-2009 05:26 AM

Hope all goes well with your treatments and to a swift recovery.

HorseShit 03-16-2009 05:26 AM

that sucks, I hope you get well soon

grumpy 03-16-2009 05:26 AM

all the best man.

Libertine 03-16-2009 05:32 AM

I hope you recover quickly.

And thanks for reminding me to quit smoking... In fact, this is as good a time as any to finish my last cigarette.

Fletch XXX 03-16-2009 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15634434)
Just back from the hospital and 6 days of intense chemotherapy. And it was tough. Started Tuesday and it was fine through to Friday, then it started to take effect. No energy, appetite and vomiting. Now I have to build my strength and weight, lost 4 kilos, to go back in 3 weeks for another session.

My advice to everyone here is kick smoking, cut down drinking and take more exercise. You don't want this.

is there a medical marijuana program where you are?

loss of appetite is one of the main problems accompanying chemo, as well as, nausea, both of which cannabis is prescribed medically in the United States.

we fight for cancer patients with doctors on our side: http://www.safeaccessnow.org

good luck, i want to become a caretaker and provide medicine to patients, will be part of my retirement.

Tim 03-16-2009 05:38 AM

Best wishes Paul.

Phoenix 03-16-2009 05:49 AM

best wishes paul...and yeah...force feed yourself...eating is strength

stay strong

sexandcash 03-16-2009 05:57 AM

I wish you the best Paul. I really do. I'm so sorry to hear what's happening to you. Right now I have a 28 year old cousin who has throat cancer...he only has a 20% chance of survival and is undergoing intensive chemo. He does nothing but sleep and vomit and has lost over 70 pounds. He has a wife and two children and is now on disability because he (obviously) can't work.

I will keep you in my prayers as I do my cousin.
Please let us know how you are doing.

Vicious_B 03-16-2009 05:57 AM

Best wishes and good luck with your treatment. Stay strong!

SZNY 03-16-2009 06:03 AM

Wishing you the best Paul, stay strong !

roly 03-16-2009 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15634434)
Just back from the hospital and 6 days of intense chemotherapy. And it was tough. Started Tuesday and it was fine through to Friday, then it started to take effect. No energy, appetite and vomiting. Now I have to build my strength and weight, lost 4 kilos, to go back in 3 weeks for another session.

My advice to everyone here is kick smoking, cut down drinking and take more exercise. You don't want this.

my dad has been fighting lung cancer for 2 years, and against the prognosis is doing really well now after chemo and radiotherapy. he found eating really tough with no desire to eat at all, but you need all the strength you can get. they prescribed some steroids and that got him eating like a horse, that complan stuff (hi protein milk shake mix) is very useful as well if you can't get anything down and has all your minerals and vitamins. good luck, keep positive and i hope all goes well. :thumbsup

Marialovesporn 03-16-2009 06:12 AM

I wish you the best. Stay strong.

JFK 03-16-2009 06:13 AM

my thoughts are with you Paul, all the best my friend:thumbsup

Fletch XXX 03-16-2009 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexandcash (Post 15634537)
He has a wife and two children and is now on disability because he (obviously) can't work.

since you posted, was he a smoker?

sexandcash 03-16-2009 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15634576)
since you posted, was he a smoker?

he smoked the occasional cigar....he was not a smoker

Fletch XXX 03-16-2009 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexandcash (Post 15634588)
he smoked the occasional cigar....

ah, cigars, in some cases worse than cigarettes, depending on how they smoked em and how often

Quote:

Cigar smokers experience higher rates of lung cancer, coronary heart disease, and chronic obstructive lung disease than nonsmokers, but not as high as the rates for cigarette smokers.
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/f...Tobacco/cigars

was his wife a smoker? there are cases of people getting cancer just living with smoker

notoldschool 03-16-2009 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15634489)
is there a medical marijuana program where you are?

loss of appetite is one of the main problems accompanying chemo, as well as, nausea, both of which cannabis is prescribed medically in the United States.

we fight for cancer patients with doctors on our side: http://www.safeaccessnow.org

good luck, i want to become a caretaker and provide medicine to patients, will be part of my retirement.

Yeah, the best natural medicane that will have you eating in no time. MUCH safer and usefull than many of the drugs they will try to pump people with.

Fletch XXX 03-16-2009 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 15634612)
Yeah, the best natural medicane that will have you eating in no time. MUCH safer and usefull than many of the drugs they will try to pump people with.

yes, while many just sit back and get stoned, some of us fight every day for safe access to natural medicine that works, and every day I fight for cancer patients and those suffering.

Its my main goal in life to help others under these tyrannical time, ive been part of this fight for years and continue to push for international change regarding cannabis laws.

Anyone who wants to help us fight, donate today and help make a difference.

http://www.safeaccessnow.org

As I said, my goal is to become caretaker and provide medicine to sick people, old and young cancer patients, you do not need to be shot up with steroids or anything else to eat, medicinal cannabis works wonders, its free and its natural. When it comes to combating nausea, read testimony from doctors and patients and youll find, compared to injected forms of anti-nausea medication, medicinal marijuana is preferred. Ive read docotrs reports on kids 10-18 suffering with cancer, and they feed them brownies with cannabis and they eat, the drugs they tried before failed!

Stand and fight dont just get stoned

CaptainHowdy 03-16-2009 06:33 AM

Stay strong!

sexandcash 03-16-2009 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15634597)
ah, cigars, in some cases worse than cigarettes, depending on how they smoked em and how often



http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/f...Tobacco/cigars

was his wife a smoker? there are cases of people getting cancer just living with smoker

his wife was not a smoker...I don't she smoked a cigar or cigarette in her life....

Fletch XXX 03-16-2009 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexandcash (Post 15634667)
his wife was not a smoker...I don't she smoked a cigar or cigarette in her life....

cool well I will stop with the questions, its just seems rathetr young for "throat cancer" thats almost a sign that it was soething to do with inhalation or smoke in his throat, this happens to people like bartenders who worked in smokey club for years etc, 28 just seemed young, Id like to know more but undertsnd this isnt the place.

notoldschool 03-16-2009 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15634623)
yes, while many just sit back and get stoned, some of us fight every day for safe access to natural medicine that works, and every day I fight for cancer patients and those suffering.

Its my main goal in life to help others under these tyrannical time, ive been part of this fight for years and continue to push for international change regarding cannabis laws.

Anyone who wants to help us fight, donate today and help make a difference.

http://www.safeaccessnow.org

As I said, my goal is to become caretaker and provide medicine to sick people, old and young cancer patients, you do not need to be shot up with steroids or anything else to eat, medicinal cannabis works wonders, its free and its natural. When it comes to combating nausea, read testimony from doctors and patients and youll find, compared to injected forms of anti-nausea medication, medicinal marijuana is preferred. Ive read docotrs reports on kids 10-18 suffering with cancer, and they feed them brownies with cannabis and they eat, the drugs they tried before failed!

Stand and fight dont just get stoned


The thing is that Cancer patients are not the only people who need this medication. My wife has Chrons and it would be far more beneficial than the poison they give her like Prednisone. That shit kills you while rotting your bones and nerous system, yet they give it out like candy. It makes me want to puke. This country is ass backwards.

Fletch XXX 03-16-2009 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 15634765)
The thing is that Cancer patients are not the only people who need this medication.

quoted for truth.

Sarah_Jayne 03-16-2009 08:29 AM

My mother in law has been through it twice..once since I have known her. It knocked her amazingly silly but she made it through both times. Hang in there Paul.

Bryan G 03-16-2009 08:31 AM

All the best Paul

Paul Markham 03-16-2009 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15634489)
is there a medical marijuana program where you are?

loss of appetite is one of the main problems accompanying chemo, as well as, nausea, both of which cannabis is prescribed medically in the United States.

we fight for cancer patients with doctors on our side: http://www.safeaccessnow.org

good luck, i want to become a caretaker and provide medicine to patients, will be part of my retirement.

They do have a program of cannabis based medicines and I asked about getting onto it.

LiveDose 03-16-2009 09:07 AM

Man hang tough Paul. You and Eva are in a rough patch right now... Hopefully things get much nicer for you soon. Take care.

Fletch XXX 03-16-2009 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15634983)
They do have a program of cannabis based medicines and I asked about getting onto it.

bravo Paul, I am genuinely glad to hear that. Good luck during these difficult times. Many of us are in this fight because we watched family members suffer, and only want to help others who need the support and hand of the compassionate, not the law enforcers.

Sativex and Marinol are synthetic, expensive, and not as good as organic grown plant, hard to control dose etc...so seek out local growers if you must, but do what it takes to eat and live, cannabis will help you.

DonX 03-16-2009 09:17 AM

Hang tough Paul, you'll come out on the other side stronger then ever :thumbsup

candyflip 03-16-2009 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 15634765)
The thing is that Cancer patients are not the only people who need this medication. My wife has Chrons and it would be far more beneficial than the poison they give her like Prednisone. That shit kills you while rotting your bones and nerous system, yet they give it out like candy. It makes me want to puke. This country is ass backwards.

Word.

I've got chron's disease and self medicate. While it would be nice to do this "legally", it's not really a requirement.

baddog 03-16-2009 10:03 AM

Sorry to hear it Paul. Good luck.

nikad 03-16-2009 11:03 AM

Sorry to hear, hopefully it will be over soon. You might want to consider joining the ACOR lists, lots of support and tricks to overcome these treatments.
best,
nik

alias 03-16-2009 11:21 AM

Best of luck for a speedy recovery!

Calico Jack 03-16-2009 12:27 PM

Best wishes for a speedy recovery Paul!

kmanrox 03-16-2009 12:30 PM

man god bless to both you and eva.. terrible 12 months..


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