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GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2008 03:24 PM

Serious Cross Sale thread. In here.
 
I've seen tons of people bitching about Cross Sales.

These are nothing new, and are the only reason sponsors are offering insane PPS. If those whining and moaning about it get them cancelled, guess what? PPS is gonna go way down, and free non-tube sites are gonna go the way of the dodo.

Please cast your vote, you have two options: Shitty PPS, or Cross Sale. I'm curious how many people will be honest in their answers, but I'm going to make this a private poll so nobody has to expose themselves.

baddog 09-06-2008 03:25 PM

faster . . . or did you forget to click the poll option?

VIPimp 09-06-2008 03:25 PM

I pay $35 per trial and dont have more than 1 xsell which is clearly visible above the join button and all price points clearly displayed....

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2008 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14718015)
faster . . . or did you forget to click the poll option?

I'm not done typing, damn it!

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2008 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIPimp (Post 14718016)
I pay $35 per trial and dont have more than 1 xsell which is clearly visible above the join button and all price points clearly displayed....

Program owners need not apply. This question is directed towards affiliates only. :thumbsup

VIPimp 09-06-2008 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 14718018)
Program owners need not apply. This question is directed towards affiliates only. :thumbsup

Yea but I am saying pps wont be going away if those issues ppl are complaning about do.

Nick_Merlot 09-06-2008 03:28 PM

I vote higher PPS, keep'em checked baby! :thumbsup











But shhhhh don't tell anyone my vote...keep it between us. :Oh crap

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2008 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIPimp (Post 14718024)
Yea but I am saying pps wont be going away if those issues ppl are complaning about do.

$35 PPS is not $100 PPS.

Amputate Your Cock 09-06-2008 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 14718011)

These are nothing new, and are the only reason sponsors are offering insane PPS. .

1: they do it on revshare as well
2: Most of those programs pay 35 bucks.

Not sure what youre talking about, neither do you.

BVF 09-06-2008 03:29 PM

$35 a sale isn't a "shitty" pps....If people just stayed at 35-40 things would be different...

Amputate Your Cock 09-06-2008 03:30 PM

So we, the affiliates, are the reason program owners charge 120 dollars so they can pay us 35 bucks.

Great thread dude...got any more?

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2008 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Cock (Post 14718028)
1: they do it on revshare as well
2: Most of those programs pay 35 bucks.

Not sure what youre talking about, neither do you.

Not a part of this argument or statement. I don't care about RevShare metrics for this thread, but thanks for shitting on my thread. Go back to the others, fakenick #10,312,032

Amputate Your Cock 09-06-2008 03:32 PM

This has to be the dumbest poll all fucking week.

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2008 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 14718036)
$35 a sale isn't a "shitty" pps....If people just stayed at 35-40 things would be different...

You know as well as I do that if a program says 'We're gonna give you $100 this weekend', very few are going to be promoting the $35 guys for that period, which feeds back unto itself..

Amputate Your Cock 09-06-2008 03:32 PM

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VIPimp 09-06-2008 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 14718027)
$35 PPS is not $100 PPS.

I doubt those programs pay $100 pps everyday and if they do then I'm sure they probably do not convert that well. And $35 per trial is high if the sites actually convert, would not consider that shitty.

Iron Fist 09-06-2008 03:32 PM

Get your ass to Mars.

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2008 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIPimp (Post 14718043)
I doubt those programs pay $100 pps everyday and if they do then I'm sure they probably do not convert that well. And $35 per trial is high if the sites actually convert, would not consider that shitty.

clicky clicky.

Amputate Your Cock 09-06-2008 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 14718040)
You know as well as I do that if a program says 'We're gonna give you $100 this weekend', very few are going to be promoting the $35 guys for that period, which feeds back unto itself..

Wow, so now you say its still our fault that those sponsors charge the surfer 120 bucks on a daily basis because they have a promo period twice a year :1orglaugh

Pleasurepays 09-06-2008 03:35 PM

when Ron tried to lower payouts so he could keep things honest.. what happened? all the short sighted morons in this industry pulled their traffic and spit on him for it.

everyone in this biz deserves whatever happens... because its a biz full of self destructive, "live for the moment" idiots who are locked in a perpetual and desperate race to the bottom.

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2008 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Cock (Post 14718053)
Wow, so now you say its still our fault that those sponsors charge the surfer 120 bucks on a daily basis because they have a promo period twice a year :1orglaugh

If you were more than just a board troll, and an actual affiliate who intentionally promoted someone due to the high PPS, you'd be a willing participant.

Either way, shut the fuck up and get out of my thread.

aico 09-06-2008 03:37 PM

I only promote Revshare. I'm in this for the money.

spacedog 09-06-2008 03:40 PM

cross sales are fine as long as they're WELL DEFINED, not multiple and not hidden/buried and NOT ON REVSHARE.

faxxaff 09-06-2008 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 14718011)
I've seen tons of people bitching about Cross Sales.

These are nothing new, and are the only reason sponsors are offering insane PPS. If those whining and moaning about it get them cancelled, guess what? PPS is gonna go way down, and free non-tube sites are gonna go the way of the dodo.

Please cast your vote, you have two options: Shitty PPS, or Cross Sale. I'm curious how many people will be honest in their answers, but I'm going to make this a private poll so nobody has to expose themselves.

I don't understand why any webmaster with quality traffic would even consider promoting a website on PPS basis. If you run good and popular sites you will always make much more money with revshare. Now, the shady thing that most programs out there do is to have xsales on revshare as well. That's pretty queationable at least.

sortie 09-06-2008 03:44 PM

You can scam your surfer once for $60 and they never sign up again or
you can have you surfer always come to you to sign up multiple times.

u-Bob 09-06-2008 04:05 PM

rev-share all the way! :)

Pete-KT 09-06-2008 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIPimp (Post 14718016)
I pay $35 per trial and dont have more than 1 xsell which is clearly visible above the join button and all price points clearly displayed....

Same as Satancash, Keep an Eye out for the PPS to come out of Beta Soon

fatfoo 09-06-2008 04:11 PM

I vote... I want my high PPS. Cross sales are just a way I get paid.

Amputate Your Cock 09-06-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 14718213)
I vote... I want my high PPS. Cross sales are just a way I get paid.

Because by next year you are retired i hope? If not then youre a stupid idiot.

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 14718213)
I vote... I want my high PPS. Cross sales are just a way I get paid.

You're not alone.

So far:

5 said "SHOW ME THA MONEYY!"
8 said "Oh goodness, I would never do that nudge-nudge wink-wink."

2012 09-06-2008 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 14718055)
Either way, shut the fuck up and get out of my thread.

So you don't like people popping into your thread insulting you. Interesting ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2008 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 14718257)
So you don't like people popping into your thread insulting you. Interesting ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If you have an argument other than "Fuck you, you suck but I don't really get what you're asking anyhow.", I'd love to hear it. If you start posting toilets full of shit, I'll ask you to stop posting in my thread as well.

Amputate Your Cock 09-06-2008 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 14718268)
If you start posting toilets full of shit, I'll ask you to stop posting in my thread as well.

:1orglaugh

Amputate Your Cock 09-06-2008 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 14718240)

5 said "SHOW ME THA MONEYY!"

5 people just showed that they are clueless and dont realize theyre fucking things up long term.

Robbie 09-06-2008 04:35 PM

As an affiliate....it's none of my business. I send traffic to get joins to the site I promote. Once my surfer enters the paysites join page he is no longer "my surfer" he is THEIR member.

As paysite owner...I'd like to give LOWER PPS & keep x-sells. The cost of running a paysite and the sheer hours I put in working on it...I believe I should be able to make good money. And if I put up a x-sell it's none of your goddamn business.

faxxaff 09-06-2008 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14718306)
As an affiliate....it's none of my business. I send traffic to get joins to the site I promote. Once my surfer enters the paysites join page he is no longer "my surfer" he is THEIR member. .

Xsales are mostly done on the signup page BEFORE a surfer joins a site. Some shady programs hide those pre-checked boxes for up to 3 other sites/programs way down below the signup botton. If you are on revshare with them, they won't give you the percentage of sales as they promise in their affiliate advertising = fraud!

Robbie 09-06-2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 14718346)
Xsales are mostly done on the signup page BEFORE a surfer joins a site. Some shady programs hide those pre-checked boxes for up to 3 other sites/programs way down below the signup botton. If you are on revshare with them, they won't give you the percentage of sales as they promise in their affiliate advertising = fraud!

My job was to get a surfer to the tour. Then it's the paysite owners job to have great content and a tour that will work for their particular niche. It's the tour's job to get the surfer to the join page. And once the surfer has made that decision...based on whether or not the tour has done it's job...then they have pretty much decided they are going to try and join that site.

I can't reach my hand out at that point and demand the backend money that the paysite makes. And the paysite can't "share" the costs of DECLINES if the surfers credit card doesn't work for any reason OR the $55 that the bank charges if the surfer pulls a chargeback on the paysite.

Fair is fair. And I feel all this b.s. is mostly coming either from people who have never run a paysite or people who aren't very successful as affiliates. I'm both, and my view of it reflects that.

mynameisjim 09-06-2008 06:07 PM

Bah, Keep your cross sales. I can make $150 per sign up on rev share.

See my thread here. fucking-around-and-business-discussion/849532-pps-pay-maybe.html I've got pages of stats like that.

bbm 09-06-2008 06:21 PM

I prefer cross sales

Tjeezers 09-06-2008 06:21 PM

I started in 2000 with the first Live Cam traffic Networks...
Fuck PPS, fuck cross sales, let the models do the selling :winkwink:


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