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Babaganoosh 01-13-2008 12:56 PM

This site powered by...BULLSHIT. Programmers read.
 
When did it become ok to sell a script but still stick a "powered by" link at the bottom of all of the public pages? If you don't want to show that link, then you can pay an additional fee for an "unbranded" license. If you released a free script, by all means add a powered by link. When I pay for a script, I certainly am not paying for the right to advertise and build backlinks for you as well.

After Shock Media 01-13-2008 12:58 PM

Many scripts I have seen do have the option of paying for a small upgrade to legally remove it, or you can just go in and hack it out yourself illegally of course.

Babaganoosh 01-13-2008 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 13646450)
Many scripts I have seen do have the option of paying for a small upgrade to legally remove it, or you can just go in and hack it out yourself illegally of course.

I don't bother. It's not worth the fight. If they try to advertise their script to my surfers, I won't use the script. I'm not paying their silly little fee to remove their link either. Peddling their script to surfers makes absolutely no sense. Surely they are just doing it to build backlinks.

lbc213 01-13-2008 01:03 PM

Yeah its pretty annoying, I have seen some places that charge almost double for a un branded version.

lbc213 01-13-2008 01:05 PM

http://www.phplinkdirectory.com/

$25 with a link back and $75 to be able to remove the link. Pretty shocking.

Babaganoosh 01-13-2008 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lbc213 (Post 13646468)
http://www.phplinkdirectory.com/

$25 with a link back and $75 to be able to remove the link. Pretty shocking.

Wow, 3x the price of the script to remove their link? Haha, fuck them.

pinkz 01-13-2008 01:08 PM

i know of one that has your ref code in the powered by link.

so its not all bad!

Babaganoosh 01-13-2008 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 13646477)
You can always hire a programmer to write a custom script for you without the link, it will cost you more.

This is the mindset that prompted my post. When did it become ok for them to force you to link back to their site when you paid for the script?

Oh, and I am a programmer. I don't need to pay anyone to do any programming for me.

Babaganoosh 01-13-2008 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkz (Post 13646480)
i know of one that has your ref code in the powered by link.

so its not all bad!

That's a pretty good idea. That would be a lot more acceptable. Still messed up but I could deal with that.

Zamiboy 01-13-2008 01:17 PM

I'm selling some of my scripts and i woud not dare to force any links to my site on paid script. If i'm giving some of them out for free of charge, then i think it is just fair to show link to my site.

Violetta 01-13-2008 02:00 PM

Babaganoosh? Who are you? Nick change?

aico 01-13-2008 02:11 PM

why should scripts be any different than cars, t-shirts, pants, candy, pizza, beer, etc, etc, etc, etc...?

Jace 01-13-2008 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13646681)
why should scripts be any different than cars, t-shirts, pants, candy, pizza, beer, etc, etc, etc, etc...?

i can remove those logos

most scripts are zend encoded so you can't remove the link

pinkz 01-13-2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 13646489)
That's a pretty good idea. That would be a lot more acceptable. Still messed up but I could deal with that.

LinkX jmbsoft.com

ichauch 01-13-2008 02:29 PM

Many of the commercial script are like this.

Look at the bottom of the page and see that gfy does not run a branding-free version, either.

sortie 01-13-2008 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 13646443)
When did it become ok to sell a script but still stick a "powered by" link at the bottom of all of the public pages? If you don't want to show that link, then you can pay an additional fee for an "unbranded" license. If you released a free script, by all means add a powered by link. When I pay for a script, I certainly am not paying for the right to advertise and build backlinks for you as well.

I don't put that in any paid scripts, but I really don't think it's a big deal.
If a surfer is looking for porn they are not going to click that link.

When I used free hosting and free scripts I had those kinds of links all over but it didn't affect my adult sign ups at all.

It seems you're more upset about not having control over it than it actually causing you harm.

If they tell you to pay more to get it removed then consider that they feel like the cheaper price is not enough to pay for the script but will sell it cheap if they can get traffic back.

It's not like they are controling you. It's more like, if you want to be cheap then ok, but you need to send them traffic.

borked 01-13-2008 02:38 PM

what sortie said

The basic price with linkback in there is that price because the programmer feels the script is being undersold, but is willing to take that hit for the traffic back and possible full-price sales.

Live with it. If you're a programmer, like you say, then write your own and stop whinging. If you can't, then pay the full price and be gone with the link.

Nuff said.

candyflip 01-13-2008 02:38 PM

I purchased TEVS and zorgman has the same setup. I was a bit miffed at that, but still purchased the software. The "pros" outweighed the on "con".

Babaganoosh 01-13-2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 13646648)
Babaganoosh? Who are you? Nick change?

Armed & Hammered. Changed my nick a couple of years ago I think.

candyflip 01-13-2008 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 13646835)
Armed & Hammered. Changed my nick a couple of years ago I think.

A looooooooooooooong time ago. Probably one of the first nick changes.

Babaganoosh 01-13-2008 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13646737)
It's not like they are controling you. It's more like, if you want to be cheap then ok, but you need to send them traffic.

No, they aren't controlling me because I don't buy scripts that have a link back to the developer on the publicly viewable pages. Frankly I think that if they want a link to their site on my site, they need to pay me.

Babaganoosh 01-13-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 13646844)
A looooooooooooooong time ago. Probably one of the first nick changes.

Yeah, I saw a couple of people change their nicks before me and since I am rarely hammered now the name didn't suit me anymore. I've used the name online since I was in my late teens. I just needed a change.

Babaganoosh 01-13-2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 13646755)
what sortie said

The basic price with linkback in there is that price because the programmer feels the script is being undersold, but is willing to take that hit for the traffic back and possible full-price sales.

Live with it. If you're a programmer, like you say, then write your own and stop whinging. If you can't, then pay the full price and be gone with the link.

Nuff said.

You must be one of the programmers that I am talking about. So if I charge you $500 for a script then it's going to be cool with you if I make you link back to me? Really? Does that make sense to you? :winkwink:

Babaganoosh 01-13-2008 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 13646756)
I purchased TEVS and zorgman has the same setup. I was a bit miffed at that, but still purchased the software. The "pros" outweighed the on "con".

Doesn't that script just parse hosted galleries for the URL to the video and then imbed it on a page? It's not really a "tube" script with encoding to .flv or anything is it?

k0nr4d 01-13-2008 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 13646458)
I don't bother. It's not worth the fight. If they try to advertise their script to my surfers, I won't use the script. I'm not paying their silly little fee to remove their link either. Peddling their script to surfers makes absolutely no sense. Surely they are just doing it to build backlinks.

heh how many threads have you seen that start what "hey what script is xxxxxxx.com running?" It's not to build backlinks, its marketing. If you don't like having the link at the bottom, either pay them to remove it, pay someone else to remove it for you, hack it out yourself, or find a different script.

CunningStunt 01-13-2008 04:38 PM

one of my pet peeves as well.

it's like all the "free wordpress templates" assholes who stick links all over the footer and try and stick them elsewhere.

Babaganoosh 01-13-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt (Post 13647196)
one of my pet peeves as well.

it's like all the "free wordpress templates" assholes who stick links all over the footer and try and stick them elsewhere.

I don't care about freebies. If you didn't pay you can't bitch. If I pay for a script, nobody is going to be using it to advertise on my site.

pornask 01-13-2008 04:45 PM

I'm just throwing my $.02 is all.

Programmers put some time and effort into these scripts. I think they deserve something in return. I hate backlinks just the same, but I paid the fee to have it removed from my topsites and I keep them on my wordpress blogs. I know they just want backlinks, but look at it from the standpoint of a programmer. It does take some dedication to create something. I don't have an issue with giving them something back in return ;)

candyflip 01-13-2008 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 13646893)
Doesn't that script just parse hosted galleries for the URL to the video and then imbed it on a page? It's not really a "tube" script with encoding to .flv or anything is it?

Pretty much. My girlfriend said she could have put something similar together, but Zorgman put together a nice package. If this pans out, that may still be an option.

TEVS is more like an MPG script that capitalizes on the "tube" look and feel. There's no user uploading and no flv encoding. Though, you can use flv video.

The admin is great and support has been as well. That might have me consider the $50 to remove the linkage as a tip. :winkwink:

horvy 01-13-2008 05:21 PM

vbulletin is one of the greatest pieces of interent software ever made. shut up

V_RocKs 01-13-2008 05:41 PM

I smoke crack rocks branded by phpRocKs!

gideongallery 01-13-2008 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 13646882)
You must be one of the programmers that I am talking about. So if I charge you $500 for a script then it's going to be cool with you if I make you link back to me? Really? Does that make sense to you? :winkwink:

depends if it was a script that would cost me 1500 to do myself then i would be willing too

if it was a script that would cost me 600 dollars then i would eat the extra hundred to get rid of the link

It a marketing approach if they release un unlinked version (regular price) and gave a discount competitors which reversed the transaction (like your complaining) could/would make price comparisions that make them look too expensive

VicD 01-13-2008 05:51 PM

easy money for the script writer

Nookster 01-13-2008 05:55 PM

How about make your own software or simply follow their rules. If you can't do either you shouldn't be in the biz.

farkedup 01-13-2008 05:55 PM

on my script its currently $20 extra to remove the link.

If they want to remove the link its not that much extra.... If you want to remove without paying the extra there isn't shit that I can do about it. Except maybe deny you of some support possibly but if you know your shit you likely won't ever need it anyway.

Babaganoosh 01-13-2008 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nookster (Post 13647427)
How about make your own software or simply follow their rules. If you can't do either you shouldn't be in the biz.

Actually I can do both. I have been a programmer for over 10 years. I also used to sell scripts. My scripts never had a link back to my site anywhere the public would see them. Try to learn who you are lipping off to before you go and make an ass out of yourself. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be on GFY.

farkedup 01-13-2008 06:41 PM

WTF are you talking about? isn't that about all there is here? This place would be pretty empty if we couldn't run our mouths without a clue about who we're talking to....

Linguist 01-13-2008 07:01 PM

I don't see what the problem is.

The link of the bottom is a part of license agreement to use the software. You don't own the script, the fact that you're paying money to use it doesn't change it. If you feel that you're not getting money's worth then go somewhere else.

OzMan 01-13-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farkedup (Post 13647557)
WTF are you talking about? isn't that about all there is here? This place would be pretty empty if we couldn't run our mouths without a clue about who we're talking to....

GFY is the only place I can get away with running my mouth without a clue who I'm talking to OR what I'm talking about. :thumbsup :thumbsup

Nookster 01-13-2008 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 13647478)
Actually I can do both. I have been a programmer for over 10 years. I also used to sell scripts. My scripts never had a link back to my site anywhere the public would see them. Try to learn who you are lipping off to before you go and make an ass out of yourself. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be on GFY.

LOL I don't give a fuck who you are. I was just telling you what's what. If you don't like it ignore me. If you really don't like it, we can handle it other ways. Best to check around before you start threatening people you don't even know.


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