I am one of those programmers and it's totally cool with me. If it's a cheapass script that doesn't do much then I wouldn't pay money whether it links to someone or not but if it's worth the money I'd use it with a linkback. Having an option of having 1 less outgoing link is nice but not everyone would need it. If someone needs it I don't see a problem of paying extra to remove it.

Yea it pisses me off too. Linkx is a good example.

If the script is free (like PHP fusion) I don't mind the link but don't fucking try to charge me AND at the same time add a link.

Those links are as lame as changing your gfy nick

it's been like that for ages... stfu with the crying. whiny bitch

Good thing you are a programmer then. :1orglaugh

you get what you pay for.

The program is likely subsidizing the cost of the program itself by having backlinks.

i dont see the problem with it unless they arent upfront about it. Its more like they are offering you a deal, not screwing you.

lets use a simple example to explain.

lets pretend you hired me to code you an upload script, lets say it takes me $500 in labour , now lets say i offer to sell you the script . if i sell it for $500 i make money , if i sell it less than $500 i lose money. but if i sell it for $100 and put backlinks on every page , the overall worth to me is $500 but it saves you $400 in labour, im giving you the choice to buy a product for cheaper than it costs to make in exchange for backlinks.

thats one way to look at it . or you can look at it like the script cost $75 , you can get it for a discount if you sell backlinks on every page for $50

I don't see the problem, either...

The link is, apparently, just another method of compensation. Say the code costs $x... for those that don't wanna pay $x, there's another method of payment offered: ($x - $y) + promoting the author of the script.

You look at it and see a programmer charging you more to remove a link. I look at it and see a programmer charging you less for marketing.

If you don't agree with the terms, don't use/buy the product. Go elsewhere. In theory, we're a free market. :2 cents:

I don't mind it so much, most of the scripts in adult are way cheap anyhow. I have found some of my best scripts by looking at other sites. If you don't want to remove the link, don't cheap out. That's all.

Don't you have a TGP you should be updating, kiddo? :1orglaugh

Yeah, lucky for you there aren't many of us out there. Most programmers know that a script that parses out video URLs from a gallery and then embeds them on a php page isn't worth $250 ($300 without a backlink :1orglaugh).

Someone should write one and charge what it's worth...about fifty bucks.

If we were talking about custom scripts then ok but we're not. The author is subsidizing the cost of the program by selling multiple copies to whoever wants to purchase it.

Smokey hit it on the nail. The programmer is making available the script at a cheaper price for more customers by implementing branding and backlinks as a caveat. The market has shown it will bear a small fee like $50 to remove the brand. Zorgman's fee is totally in line with the value of the script and customer service you get form him. I was happy to pay it.

I do understand where your coming from Babaganoosh, because the market should not bear other coders like Photopost php where is costs $129 for the script and a whopping $100 for brand removal and no customer service. That's obscene in relation to the value of the script and customer service you don't get from Photopost php for instance.

A fool and his money...

That "tevs" script or whatever it's called is really and truly very simple code. To add an additional $50 to the already out of line price of $250 is asinine. I assure you he's not doing anyone any favors by selling the script for $250.

I guess a script is worth what people are willing to pay.

there's some scripts that hide the branding thing till after you purchase... i think that crappy entertainmentscripts.com tube script charges you $100 after you purchase hiding that fact..


I dont see it a problem if it is shown... you get a discount on script if you dont mind the link.... most do so you pay full price.... no biggie, it does hurt the sellers sales that does this... The seller should sell the script at full price unbranded, then offer a cheaper solution with LINK, that would work a better situation

Whats wrong with it dude? They code script, they put it up for sale, they decide what prices/packages they should have. If you don't agree, don't buy. Why rant? Do they force you?

Pretty nonsense post.

Reading comprehension isn't one of your strengths, is it? Go away, son. The grown-ups are talking.

Yep it's what the market will bear. You can call me a fool to pay only after you have experienced what the script can do and the level of support you get with Zorgman. Until you've fully experienced it, you are judging from an uninformed point of view.

Babaganoosh, You use to own tgpdevil.com right? Just making sure im talking to the same person.

Im not sure why you didn't say TEVS when writting your threads, its only now that you bring my name into this thread.

Just some information.
I made my first tube site over 12 months ago. I showed a couple of big players and they liked it. Several purchased source code versions for their members area and free sites.

Over the last 7 months I have been working on a few sites for myself that used this same script. Videosxrated.com (now TEVS) was running the original script which used just flv clips. All clips where from movieprofits.com program and about 1-2 mins long (Fantastic program too). I soon realised that I need more controls over advertising.

A couple of months had pasted and I was asking if their was any webmasters interesting in using this script for their sites. Very few put their hands up. But I continued. Thanks to the beta testers too, you have done a great job!

About 2 months ago I asked webmasters about pricing for my tube script. From the 40 ICQ messages I sent out about half replied with $200-$500 and the others said $50-$150 - some even said free ( those cheap bastards :) ). So i needed a middle zone. Between $50 and $500. So I picked $250 per license. With the option to remove the "powered by" link for an extra $50 -- which is only 1/5 of the cost of the script.

While you might think $250 is alot, you have not considered this.
1. You can use your script FOREVER!
2. I write addons that are FREE (thats right FREE) to download.
3. Extra licenses are $80 cheaper.
4. I have a webmaster referal program, so some webmasters can make their money back.
5. I work closely with sponsors to make special addons to add your videos quicker. Example, PerfectGonzo addon 1110+ flash videos in under 4 minutes, along with PayServe's 16,000 videos. These files are updated monthly with new movies.
6. 16 hours a day tech support (I have to sleep), 7 days a week.

This all takes time to create, update and support. Im sure as a program you know this. So why is $50 such a big deal?

Yep, you're talking to the same person. I didn't bring up your name. Someone else did. I had never heard of your script before this thread. You were the one who smarted off so technically you brought it on yourself.

Believe me, I understand the work that's required to get a script completely developed and fix all the bugs, security and speed issues that might present themselves as the script matures but let's face it, what your script does is not difficult. What it does have is a nice, finished look and more than likely some great support. That's worth something. Not $250 in my opinion but something.

Since you brought it up, why IS $50 such a big deal? Why charge customers another measly $50 just to not pimp a script that they have already paid for? Most of the people that see that little link at the bottom are surfers who have no need to see that info. My only guess is that it's to collect backlinks.

So if you where not refering about TEVS, then please show us which script you where referring to.

Don't think of it as $50 more, think of of it as $50 less then the the full price ($300). I had a lot of webmasters asking which script I was running for Videosxrated. I didn't have anything to tell them at the time. Webmasters will visit other webmaster sites to see what they use, how they advertise. etc. It's how we all learn.

thats some bullshit, but hey whatever

thats ome bullshit, but hey whatever

thats some bullshit, but hey whatever

See Sig...

put your money where your mouth is... until you do you're not earning respect from anybody here....

You simply can't offer a script for $50 that does everything TEVS does. If you come up with it then you've got my respect and the respect from tons of members here....

You say you're a programmer....

Its a shame...shit at least make the normal one $50 and the unbranded $75...

As it is, its like if they were taking the piss...

$50 script. Awesome Sortie. Thats what Babaganoosh wants.

Hey, I don't blame you for charging more. After all, you probably spent a whole lot of time hacking my script to figure out how it works so you could write yours.

You have to recover that cost some how.

You are the hardest guy on the internet.

Fucking moron. Internet gangsta fo' sure.

B's up, throw them keys up, n1gga.

Sortie, I wrote my script over 12 months ago. Before you even joined GFY. Get over yourself.

Oh, so you think I've only been around since I join GFY. :1orglaugh

Hey, look at econfirmpro.com, It was written by me to use with TGSW.
Do you even know what TGSW was?!!!!!???

I wrote the first TGP gallery submission email confirmation script on the internet. I got copied then, I'll be copied again. Nothing new.

PS: Are you claiming that 12 months ago you crawled hosted galleries like tubecgi but yet you didn't realese a script until months after I did?

Man, your webpages even have some of the exact same code.

Nigga Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have NEVER heard of that script before. It must have been an AMAZING system. Where is it now?

Never heard of econfirmpro either.

Im not a Nigga and I think some people, including myself -- might find that offensive.

For starters your code is some old shit CGI crap, while TEVS is php/mysql which you dont even use. How can you clame its the same code.

You know what's cool about being self-employed? I don't need any respect from anyone. Especially from mouthy nobodies on a board called go fuck yourself.

Actually, I am going to write my own. It won't be flashy. Its admin will be very basic with no fluff and no eye candy but it will work and work well. It also won't be for sale.

Isn't it a little arrogant to think I was referring to your script? There are tons of scripts out there that offer an unbranded version for an extra fee.

How could I think otherwise? My script is the only one you have been talking about for 8 replies now.

Answer my question, which one were you refering too? Please make this clear to everyone here!

There's nothing either of us can do that can possibly HELP our causes. He has his mind made up and there's no point arguing with a wall.

Our customers know the point we're making...