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Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 06:21 PM

Ron Paul spam of a different sort
 
http://emptv.com/view/ron-paul-doesn...e-your-support

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/articl...71213042357547

Things you should consider before hoping on the Ron Paul bandwagon

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Socks 12-24-2007 06:37 PM

He's also said that just because he may have an opinion or stance on an issue, it doesn't mean he would move to put it into action in government. He just wants to move the power to the states and let them figure their own state laws out for themselves, whether they go with his stance or not.

collegeboobies 12-24-2007 06:41 PM

That article sucks, first of all they dont understand half of his positions and are wrong about the assumptions on many outcomes if something they say is bad did happen. Its good to have states rights and its bad to have the federal government involved in stem cell research.

minusonebit 12-24-2007 06:47 PM

So what. He has flaws. They all do. The only perfect candidate is me. But I am not running (not this year, anyway). Given the choices we have, he is FAR AND AWAY the best candidate for the job. The guy is a Libertarian. He ran on our ticket and is now running as a Republican because the stupid sheep in this country will not vote for anyone who doesn't have a D or an R behind their name.

Ron is what this country needs. I have never supported a Republican for president in my entire life. But if he gets on the ticket, I will join his campaign and put every ounce of strength into it I can.

Yes, Ron will get rid of the EPA. He will replace it with laws that leave companies wide open to massive lawsuits if they pollute the land or air around them. Thats BETTER than what we have with the EPA now, because the EPA limits the liability of the companies as well as lets them pollute to a point.

buzzy 12-24-2007 06:47 PM

Do you honestly give a fuck if he supports gay marriage or not? Seriously...who cares lol

notoldschool 12-24-2007 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13560170)
So what. He has flaws. They all do. The only perfect candidate is me. But I am not running (not this year, anyway). Given the choices we have, he is FAR AND AWAY the best candidate for the job. The guy is a Libertarian. He ran on our ticket and is now running as a Republican because the stupid sheep in this country will not vote for anyone who doesn't have a D or an R behind their name.

Ron is what this country needs. I have never supported a Republican for president in my entire life. But if he gets on the ticket, I will join his campaign and put every ounce of strength into it I can.

Yes, Ron will get rid of the EPA. He will replace it with laws that leave companies wide open to massive lawsuits if they pollute the land or air around them. Thats BETTER than what we have with the EPA now, because the EPA limits the liability of the companies as well as lets them pollute to a point.

WTF? I missed too much. Who stole this guys user/pass? I must have read you wrong.


And to the bill orielly employee that posted that garbage written by a pimple face college student :321GFY

Nobody is buying it.

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 13560146)
He just wants to move the power to the states and let them figure their own state laws out for themselves.

Do you really want the states to decide the future of certain things? Say for example.. oh.. I don't know... the porn industry perhaps? Do you really think if left completely in the hands of the states they would allow our industy to continue unchallenged?

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13560186)
And to the bill orielly employee that posted that garbage written by a pimple face college student :321GFY

Nobody is buying it.

http://malicious.biz/share/ronpaulparrot.gif

notoldschool 12-24-2007 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 13560187)
Do you really want the states to decide the future of certain things? Say for example.. oh.. I don't know... the porn industry perhaps? Do you really think if left completely in the hands of the states they would allow our industy to continue unchallenged?

thats how America was intended dumb ass. Let me explain how its better for the simple minded.

if you didnt like the laws in one state you can move to another that fits your needs and beliefs. Under the current system the federal goverment sits in Washington and take money from the highest bidder (special interests & extreme evangelicals) and the whole country has to go by what they say. How does one entity get to tell everyone how to live in every part of the country? Do you think that makes us a free country? More and more the federal goverment is tell us what to eat, drink, and ingest into our own bodies which is unconstitutional period. I could go on for days about why one city having a monopoly on our goverment and our land is no good.

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13560301)
Under the current system the federal goverment sits in Washington and take money from the highest bidder (special interests & extreme evangelicals)

The corruption magically disappears when power is shifted to the states?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13560301)
More and more the federal goverment is tell us what to eat, drink, and ingest into our own bodies which is unconstitutional period.

And that will also magically disappear?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13560301)
How does one entity get to tell everyone how to live in every part of the country? Do you think that makes us a free country?

Fuck Yeah! Fuck that "..With liberty and justice for all" Shit! Want freedoms other states enjoy? Shop around for your freedoms motherfucker!
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Grapesoda 12-24-2007 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 13560187)
Do you really want the states to decide the future of certain things? Say for example.. oh.. I don't know... the porn industry perhaps? Do you really think if left completely in the hands of the states they would allow our industy to continue unchallenged?

the euro union get more organized the US falls apart :)

madfuck 12-24-2007 09:14 PM

i concour

xxxdesign-net 12-24-2007 09:52 PM

lol.. whats up with all the obsessed Ron Paul bashers around here..? They are certainly dedicated and frankly pathetic...

Btw, heres a good one from one of your links.. they blame Ron Paul for saying yes to this question in a debate..

"Would you bring abstinence-education funding onto equal ground with contraceptive-based education?"

..but then gets blamed again for being against federal funding for contraceptive-based education.. lol

Looks like if he had his way, it would be 0 for both.. :2 cents:

xxxdesign-net 12-24-2007 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 13560336)

The corruption magically disappears when power is shifted to the states?


centralisation of power certainly facilitate corruption for your information...

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 13560662)
"Would you bring abstinence-education funding onto equal ground with contraceptive-based education?"

..but then gets blamed again for being against federal funding for contraceptive-based education.. lol

Looks like if he had his way, it would be 0 for both..

I thought he was for getting the feds out of education totally? He did have his way.. and he voted FOR federal involvement when it clicked with his Fundamental Christian Beliefs. What's with him funding education with federal money?

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 13560683)
centralisation of power certainly facilitate corruption for your information...

What does shifting power to the states do for eliminating corruption? Nothing.

xxxdesign-net 12-24-2007 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 13560688)
He did have his way.. and he voted FOR federal involvement when it clicked with his Fundamental Christian Beliefs.

can you give an exemple ?

baddog 12-24-2007 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13560301)
thats how America was intended dumb ass. Let me explain how its better for the simple minded.

if you didnt like the laws in one state you can move to another that fits your needs and beliefs. Under the current system the federal goverment sits in Washington and take money from the highest bidder (special interests & extreme evangelicals) and the whole country has to go by what they say. How does one entity get to tell everyone how to live in every part of the country? Do you think that makes us a free country? More and more the federal goverment is tell us what to eat, drink, and ingest into our own bodies which is unconstitutional period. I could go on for days about why one city having a monopoly on our goverment and our land is no good.

damn you are dumb

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 13560739)
can you give an exemple ?

Yup!
Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 13560662)
"Would you bring abstinence-education funding onto equal ground with contraceptive-based education?"

Also:
Quote:

Originally Posted by also from the article you decided to quote the above example from
He also introduced the Sanctity of Life Act in 2005 and 2007, which would define human life as beginning at conception, and remove federal courts' jurisdiction to review cases pertaining to abortion laws. However, Paul voted in favor of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, which intrudes upon the states' abortion laws, even though he admits that the federal government has no constitutional authority over abortion.


notoldschool 12-24-2007 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13560760)
damn you are dumb

Just when I was starting to like you. Seriously though, vote for either Guliani or Clinton. They are the real saviors of our country and we should follow blindly. Seriously.

xxxdesign-net 12-24-2007 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 13560696)
What does shifting power to the states do for eliminating corruption? Nothing.

eliminating? no.. but the fact remains, the fewer is the number of those making the decisions, the easier it is to corrupt the bunch..

xxxdesign-net 12-24-2007 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 13560761)
Yup!

didnt you read my post? If Paul wont fund contraceptive-based education.. how much then would the federal funding of abstinance education be if its equal to the other? lol

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 13560783)
eliminating? no.. but the fact remains, the fewer is the number of those making the decisions, the easier it is to corrupt the bunch..

So putting power in the hands of 50 state governments = less people to corrupt? I, for some reason, believe your math is flawed.

You're only kidding yourself if you think big money wont just be shifted from the federal to the state level. Corruption is just as bad at the state level. Let's add more money and less federal oversight and see what we end up with shall we?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 13560798)
didnt you read my post? If Paul wont fund contraceptive-based education.. how much then would the federal funding of abstinance education be if its equal to the other? lol

Point being he is supposed to be for removing the federal government from education right? How does voting for federal funding for any aspect of it accomplish that exactly?

Also pay close attention to his earmarks:
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/all...tx.14.paul.pdf

What's with him getting pork barrel money for the university of texas? He wants the feds out of state education, but spending federal money on it is just fine?

xxxdesign-net 12-24-2007 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 13560801)
So putting power in the hands of 50 state governments = less people to corrupt? I, for some reason, believe your math is flawed.

lol.. uh.. yeah.. lets say theres 5 people at the top of a country... quite easy to corrupt..
if theres 5 at the top of 50 states... sure... many states may have corrupt leaders.. but what are the chances that happen in 50 states?

minusonebit 12-24-2007 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13560760)
damn you are dumb

Fucking A, you and I agree about something for once. :Oh crap

baddog 12-24-2007 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13560770)
Just when I was starting to like you.

Please don't. I would hate for anyone to think we were "bro's."

xxxdesign-net 12-24-2007 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 13560809)

Also pay close attention to his earmarks:
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/all...tx.14.paul.pdf

What's with him getting pork barrel money for the university of texas? He wants the feds out of state education, but spending federal money on it is just fine?


I think Paul responded to that quite well in his meet the press interview

minusonebit 12-24-2007 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 13560801)
So putting power in the hands of 50 state governments = less people to corrupt? I, for some reason, believe your math is flawed.

You're only kidding yourself if you think big money wont just be shifted from the federal to the state level. Corruption is just as bad at the state level. Let's add more money and less federal oversight and see what we end up with shall we?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

It doesn't fucking matter what it does or doesn't do. The federal government is for raising a national defense and protecting, upholding, enforcing and defending the constitution. Thats it. Its not for providing food for the homeless, planning your retirement, schooling your kids, building highways or any of the zillions of other things it does that it has no business doing. The federal government of today, for the most part, exists in violation of the law.

baddog 12-24-2007 10:49 PM

As far as who I will vote for, I can't vote for Paul as I am a registered Democrat. As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13560823)
The federal government of today, for the most part, was voted into law by congress*. Which is well within constitutional boundaries.

Fixed:thumbsup

notoldschool 12-24-2007 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13560823)
It doesn't fucking matter what it does or doesn't do. The federal government is for raising a national defense and protecting, upholding, enforcing and defending the constitution. Thats it. Its not for providing food for the homeless, planning your retirement, schooling your kids, building highways or any of the zillions of other things it does that it has no business doing. The federal government of today, for the most part, exists in violation of the law.

You are a tricky one.

Malicious Biz 12-24-2007 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13560826)
As far as who I will vote for, I can't vote for Paul as I am a registered Democrat. As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.

I doubt anyone will be able to vote for Paul in any meaningful or official way.

He most likely wont make it that far into the race.

baddog 12-24-2007 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 13560858)
I doubt anyone will be able to vote for Paul in any meaningful or official way.

He most likely wont make it that far into the race.

I was being nice and trying to make a point that paultards do not seem to understand. I guess they just don't get it.

mechanicvirus 12-24-2007 11:07 PM

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notoldschool 12-24-2007 11:08 PM

The republicans are in trouble if Gulliani, Romney, or Huckabee get to the big dance. The democrats could run a mexican illegal alien over them losers. Even the Evangelicals cant figure out which one to back.

Iron Fist 12-25-2007 12:15 AM

HAPPY HOLIDAYS! :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

buzzy 12-25-2007 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13560826)
As far as who I will vote for, I can't vote for Paul as I am a registered Democrat. As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.

Obama :thumbsup:thumbsup

collegeboobies 12-25-2007 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13560860)
I was being nice and trying to make a point that paultards do not seem to understand. I guess they just don't get it.

Quite the opposite, it is you who dont "get it" and you will see in less than 2 weeks.

baddog 12-25-2007 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13561085)
Obama :thumbsup:thumbsup

As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.


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