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howard 04-21-2007 06:58 PM

any porsche mechanics? serious question
 
1995 993 and ive had for 12 years--52k miles

its got towed to dealer so ill get the bad news monday morning from the deal but i was hoping to get some insite to what i did..since she 12 years old and it great shape im forced to fix her...


on highway driving 60mph ish---dowshift 6th to 5th then meant to hit 4 but went into 2---i heard something pop---car drove but lose ton of power---imediatley pulled over---car wouldnt start---felt like not enough juice to start---clutch worked fine when driving after and when trying to start...


PLEASE DONT GIVE ME OPINION UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!!!! THANKS....

Juicy D. Links 04-21-2007 07:01 PM

you blew the one or more gears in the transmission btw the eagles have 7 homos on there team

aico 04-21-2007 07:02 PM

Blew the head gasket.

howard 04-21-2007 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 12292171)
Blew the head gasket.


how much?

Juicy D. Links 04-21-2007 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 12292171)
Blew the head gasket.

he would have seen white cloud of smoke if that was da case

howard 04-21-2007 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by howard (Post 12292177)
how much?


and from my description what % would you say that you are correct?

Spunky 04-21-2007 07:05 PM

Indeed..sounds like the tranny

Juicy D. Links 04-21-2007 07:06 PM

it aint head gasket yo

Juicy D. Links 04-21-2007 07:07 PM

Howard your tranny and/or clutch are fucked......

howard 04-21-2007 07:07 PM

juicy--what am i looking at $

aico 04-21-2007 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 12292185)
Indeed..sounds like the tranny

Why would the tranny result in a loss of power?

Juicy D. Links 04-21-2007 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by howard (Post 12292195)
juicy--what am i looking at $


at the Porsche dealership??? Damn man if the tranny is majorly fucked take labor + parts + the dealership ass ripping they do i would say minimum 8k

Minte 04-21-2007 07:09 PM

Post the question on the Rennlist 993 board. There are a couple of actual Porsche mechanics that hang out there.

Juicy D. Links 04-21-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 12292196)
Why would the tranny result in a loss of power?

if da gears get fucked when he is accelrating the gears are fucked thus aint moving power to da wheels

Spunky 04-21-2007 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by howard (Post 12292195)
juicy--what am i looking at $

If it is ,you probably looking at 5 or 6 k.I had a z28 and the same shit happened..cost me 3500

aico 04-21-2007 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12292206)
if da gears get fucked when he is accelrating the gears are fucked thus aint moving power to da wheels

so why wouldn't the car start? If it was the tranny, the car would run fine until you put it into gear.

WarChild 04-21-2007 07:18 PM

If it was the tranny you'd expect to feel/hear the problem not just notice a loss of power. I'm betting engine damage.

frankfortuna 04-21-2007 07:23 PM

Did it immediately lose power and die? Depending on the symptom at that exact moment, the timing chain could have skipped a tooth or broke all together. If this occurred, depending on the valve to piston clearance, you may have some serious engine damage.

howard 04-21-2007 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by frankfortuna (Post 12292263)
Did it immediately lose power and die? Depending on the symptom at that exact moment, the timing chain could have skipped a tooth or broke all together. If this occurred, depending on the valve to piston clearance, you may have some serious engine damage.

no it wasnt

howard 04-21-2007 07:28 PM

i so wanted to just keep this car forever

WarChild 04-21-2007 07:28 PM

It's really impossible to know for sure, but likely it's not the transmission.

What you've done is caused the engine to severly over rev, as if you put in the clutch and just stood on the gas. Did you stuff in the clutch as soon as you realized what happened? The type of damage can vary, but it's not looking like Monday will be a great day for you.

aico 04-21-2007 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankfortuna (Post 12292263)
Did it immediately lose power and die? Depending on the symptom at that exact moment, the timing chain could have skipped a tooth or broke all together. If this occurred, depending on the valve to piston clearance, you may have some serious engine damage.

If the chain broke, it wouldn't turn over at all when he tried to start it.

Ray@TastyDollars 04-21-2007 07:35 PM

Possible shot tranny but more likely engine damage. If you would lose a gear you would deff. be able to feel that.

When you hit that low gear, revs surely went past what the engine can take. Worst case, bottom end damage (crank, or piston/cylinder) best case, piston hit valve and bent it.

What ever the case, it will be costly. Let us know how it turns out.

howard 04-21-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 12292274)
It's really impossible to know for sure, but likely it's not the transmission.

What you've done is caused the engine to severly over rev, as if you put in the clutch and just stood on the gas. Did you stuff in the clutch as soon as you realized what happened? The type of damage can vary, but it's not looking like Monday will be a great day for you.


absolutly and went into neutral than once it settled down i went back into gear as i was slowing down to pull over BUT CAR DID DRIVE just with a ton less power

like it became a pinto

howard 04-21-2007 07:46 PM

i promise to post when i get the report

WarChild 04-21-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by howard (Post 12292337)
absolutly and went into neutral than once it settled down i went back into gear as i was slowing down to pull over BUT CAR DID DRIVE just with a ton less power

like it became a pinto

Yeah, it's engine damage. Hopefully in the top end, but hard to know for sure. Shitty deal for you. :(

fuzebox 04-21-2007 08:03 PM

Is it a TT? Could just be an intercooler hose popped... I had that happen a lot on my Supra. That is some pretty wishful thinking though.

k0nr4d 04-21-2007 08:15 PM

if he over-revved im sure its a fucked up bearing

howard 04-21-2007 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 12292431)
if he over-revved im sure its a fucked up bearing

i like that--that sound cheaper..

woj 04-21-2007 09:07 PM

I'm surprised no one gave you a hard time about this, but how the fuck do you accidentally put it in 2nd, come on dude, wtf? You must have been drunk or high off your ass, or maybe you just suck at driving stick...

UniversalPass Pete 04-21-2007 09:12 PM

You ran too much RPM, you may have damaged one or more of the valves! Not for sure if that year came with rev limited but slamming the car at speed into 2nd gear could do it.:2 cents:

A bent valve could cause compression loss, and that would be consistant with your power loss.

Good luck! I hope you get it fixed!

WarChild 04-21-2007 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by UniversalPass Pete (Post 12292603)
You ran too much RPM, you may have damaged one or more of the valves! Not for sure if that year came with rev limited but slamming the car at speed into 2nd gear could do it.:2 cents:

A bent valve could cause compression loss, and that would be consistant with your power loss.

Good luck! I hope you get it fixed!

A rev limited will make no difference what so ever if you shift in to too low of a gear. It only stops the engine from revving passed the limit.

Big_Red 04-21-2007 09:40 PM

valves....snapped from the back pressure.

Mr Pheer 04-21-2007 10:24 PM

I would totaly disregard anything said in this thread. There are too many variables to diagnose the problem. I did pretty much the same thing once in a 1969 Mustang, and everyone swore I blew the engine. All that happened is the rotor inside of the distrubutor broke. For $8 I was running again. Being that your car is a 95 it probably doesnt even have a distributor, I've never worked on a Porsche so I wouldnt know. Which is why you dont see me posting a diagnosis here. It could be alot of different things gone wrong.

Keep your fingers crossed and wait for the mechanic to call you.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-21-2007 10:40 PM

you threw the timing off

real cheap to fix

no biggie

KRosh 04-21-2007 10:57 PM

The 993 has a non interference motor. It is very difficult to bend a valve.

Can you give some more details? What was the actual sound? was it a metal clang? what do you mean by pop? did you hear any metal clanking sounds after?

Where you able to shift into other gears? When you were turning over the engine after it stopped can you describe the sound? did it sound like the normal cranking that it always does?

I used to work as a German repair specialist and might be able to help

BV 04-21-2007 11:40 PM

The first thing you need to do is a "compression test" on all the cylinders.

Webby 04-21-2007 11:42 PM

First thought that comes into my head when the Porsche blows up is - contact GFY :pimp

fuzebox 04-21-2007 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 12292585)
I'm surprised no one gave you a hard time about this, but how the fuck do you accidentally put it in 2nd, come on dude, wtf? You must have been drunk or high off your ass, or maybe you just suck at driving stick...

I once did a 2nd-1st shift instead of into 3rd... Tranny was moving over to the left under hard acceleration and I kept grinding, so I tried to aim a little bit to the left when doing the 3 shift, and let the clutch out in 1st at 70mph.... tach spiked to the bottom and the back end lit up.

Good times.

howard 04-22-2007 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 12292585)
I'm surprised no one gave you a hard time about this, but how the fuck do you accidentally put it in 2nd, come on dude, wtf? You must have been drunk or high off your ass, or maybe you just suck at driving stick...

thats what i would think

been my car for 12 years--driving stick entire life--just made a mistake


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