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s9ann0 04-20-2007 03:48 PM

Should people with mental problems be allowed to own guns?
 
I saw CNN or something news channel the other day talking about the Virginia gunman and they were saying the law does not allow you to lock up people with mental problems unless they are a danger to themselves or others. The inferance being that this is a weakness in the law and if you could detain anyone with mental problems things like this wouldn't have happenned!

I was thinking maybe it would be a better idea to just not let people with mental health problems have access to firearms?

Loryn 04-20-2007 04:47 PM

NO. :thumbsup

sniperwolf 04-20-2007 05:05 PM

it's not a good idea to allow people have a mental problem to own a gun..coz you'll never know when they are just fine or not..like what happen to virginia tech right..

notabook 04-20-2007 05:09 PM

No, of course not.

Webby 04-20-2007 05:21 PM

It should be compulsory for all citizens to pack two weapons and four grenades - and let them sort the crap out - it's their "right" :pimp

Dirty Dane 04-20-2007 05:26 PM

Just pulling the trigger on another person is a sick act, so basically no one should be allowed in the first place.

Spunky 04-20-2007 05:36 PM

Hell no..they might snap and blow away more innocent people

Sveindt Beindt 04-20-2007 05:38 PM

No guns to civilians,only to police and army

stickyfingerz 04-20-2007 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 12288174)
Just pulling the trigger on another person is a sick act, so basically no one should be allowed in the first place.

I figured you keep a couple guns strapped to your wheel chair to protect your $5000.00 watch from bouncers that drag you out of your chair and have you arrested......

stickyfingerz 04-20-2007 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sveindt Beindt (Post 12288223)
No guns to civilians,only to police and army

Germany in the 1930's.... nice call. :thumbsup

Mr Pheer 04-20-2007 05:43 PM

i believe there is a question asking if you have ever been diagnosed with a mental illness on the form that you fill out when you get your background check when legaly buying a firearm.

I may be wrong, cant remember if i've ever bought a firearm or not. I may or may not have any guns.

stickyfingerz 04-20-2007 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 12288233)
i believe there is a question asking if you have ever been diagnosed with a mental illness on the form that you fill out when you get your background check when legaly buying a firearm.

I may be wrong, cant remember if i've ever bought a firearm or not. I may or may not have any guns.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Ya pretty sure its on the form. Let me see if I can find one.

stickyfingerz 04-20-2007 05:47 PM

Here it is in the law itself.

Quote:

(g) It shall be unlawful for any person -
(1) who has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment
for a term exceeding one year;
(2) who is a fugitive from justice;
(3) who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as
defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802));
(4) who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to
a mental institution;

http://www.atf.treas.gov/pub/fire-ex...b/guncoact.pdf

Dirty Dane 04-20-2007 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12288230)
Germany in the 1930's.... nice call. :thumbsup

And most of the civilized countries year 2000.

stickyfingerz 04-20-2007 05:51 PM

Interesing...


Quote:

TITLE I - STATE
FIREARMS CONTROL
ASSISTANCE
PURPOSE
Sec. 101. The Congress hereby declares that the purpose of this title is to
provide support to Federal, State, and local law enforcement officials in their fight
against crime and violence, and it is not the purpose of this title to place any
undue or unnecessary Federal restrictions or burdens on law-abiding citizens with
respect to the acquisition, possession, or use of firearms appropriate to the purpose

of hunting, trapshooting, target shooting, personal protection, or any other lawful
activity, and that this title is not intended to discourage or eliminate the private
ownership or use of firearms by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes
, or provide
for the imposition by Federal regulations of any procedures or requirements other
than those reasonably necessary to implement and effectuate the provisions of this
title.

stickyfingerz 04-20-2007 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 12288260)
And most of the civilized countries year 2000.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12288228)
I figured you keep a couple guns strapped to your wheel chair to protect your $5000.00 watch from bouncers that drag you out of your chair and have you arrested......

See above....

xlogger 04-20-2007 05:55 PM

I don't think anyone should own a gun so....

Seriously whats so fucking great about guns anyways huh? You can buy one for fucking $200, wooooooopeeeetee doooo. Every one can get one, its not that fucking great..

Mutt 04-20-2007 05:59 PM

of course the mentally ill should be allowed to own guns - how the hell do you think they are supposed to defend themselves against all the people they think are out to get them? i suppose we could license them imaginary guns and teach them how to make bang bang sounds but that would be mocking them and probably against some human rights law.

Webby 04-20-2007 06:00 PM

Hell.. Stupid Sticky is in here as well clogging up threads with his ignorant braincell - and hoping for some biz from his whoring.

Dirty Dane 04-20-2007 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12288292)
See above....

So u keep guns in case u get arrested or attacked by ur own military?

stickyfingerz 04-20-2007 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12288314)
Hell.. Stupid Sticky is in here as well clogging up threads with his ignorant braincell - and hoping for some biz from his whoring.

Fuck off and die you old puckered twat..:thumbsup

g$$$ 04-20-2007 06:06 PM

Hell no...if u have mental problems..u shouldnt be allowed guns...are u smoking crack

stickyfingerz 04-20-2007 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 12288318)
So u keep guns in case u get arrested or attacked by ur own military?

I keep guns in order to dispatch any force attempting to do harm to me, my family members, my friends, or my neighbors without just cause and in an unlawful manner.

Webby 04-20-2007 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12288325)
Fuck off and die you old puckered twat..:thumbsup

Yea another of your "valuable contributions" to threads idiot???

Webby 04-20-2007 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12288333)
I keep guns in order to dispatch any force attempting to do harm to me,

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Mr Pheer 04-20-2007 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger (Post 12288294)
I don't think anyone should own a gun so....

Seriously whats so fucking great about guns anyways huh? You can buy one for fucking $200, wooooooopeeeetee doooo. Every one can get one, its not that fucking great..

when one guy has one and nobody else does, things can get very bad. Criminals will carry one, well just because they are criminals and thats what they do. Keep in mind, it wasnt illegal for the Cho guy to own a gun. It was illegal for him to kill 32 people.

Now consider this. If the law abiding people were all carrying guns, would Cho have been able to kill 32 people? I dont think so.

Making guns illegal will NOT solve anything. There are already way too many available. Making them illegal will not stop gun crime. Its already illegal to kill people, and that didnt stop murders from happening. Its illegal to drink and drive, doesnt seem to have stopped it. Its illegal to exceed the speed limit, but show me someone here who says they have never been speeding, and I'll point out a liar to you.

I'm not saying that making sure everyone is armed would be a better situation, but making guns illegal isnt going to stop things at all. But perhaps if the criminals knew that everyone else was armed, they may reconsider trying to hurt people when they know they would probably get themselves killed before they could finish thier act of crime.

stickyfingerz 04-20-2007 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12288337)
Yea another of your "valuable contributions" to threads idiot???

Dont you have an bird aviary or something to tend to? Or do the servants do that?? Maybe ride a horse around your huge tropical estate?

Webby 04-20-2007 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12288372)
Dont you have an bird aviary or something to tend to? Or do the servants do that?? Maybe ride a horse around your huge tropical estate?

Characteristic of a fool = assumption

Dreaming again idiot??? Ah... or is it you are "jealous of my way of life"?? :1orglaugh

Dirty Dane 04-20-2007 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12288333)
I keep guns in order to dispatch any force attempting to do harm to me, my family members, my friends, or my neighbors without just cause and in an unlawful manner.

:1orglaugh Move out of the ghetto gringo .

stickyfingerz 04-20-2007 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12288384)
Characteristic of a fool = assumption

Dreaming again idiot??? Ah... or is it you are "jealous of my way of life"?? :1orglaugh

Yes cause its so hard to move to Costa Rica... lol Puckered old twat...

stickyfingerz 04-20-2007 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 12288401)
:1orglaugh Move out of the ghetto gringo .

Yes the cul-de-sac where we live is ever so rough.. lmao I mowed my 1/2 acre of ghetto grass tonight... lol

Webby 04-20-2007 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12288402)
Yes cause its so hard to move to Costa Rica... lol Puckered old twat...

No problem for you Sticky - just get on your hotel uniform (you look kinda pretty in it!) and I'll find you a job carrying luggage - you'll love it! But.. that can only be for 90 days - then you get evicted back to lala land - nothing lasts forever eh? :1orglaugh

PS And make you your criminal record is clean :thumbsup

LiveDose 04-20-2007 06:30 PM

Of course not but 'mental problems' is very vague.

Should very angry people be allowed to own guns?

How about people who haven't been laid in 3 years?

Women on PMS? Should we take their guns away once a month? (Actually that's probably a good idea....)

stickyfingerz 04-20-2007 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 12288414)
No problem for you Sticky - just get on your hotel uniform (you look kinda pretty in it!) and I'll find you a job carrying luggage - you'll love it! But.. that can only be for 90 days - then you get evicted back to lala land - nothing lasts forever eh? :1orglaugh

PS And make you your criminal record is clean :thumbsup

Lol I got my wife all set with permanent residence for the United States, I just betcha I would be able to live in Costa. I have more than a few friends down there, and I know how it works. So again you make fun of my appearance, yet no one has ever seen a picture of your old puckered wrinkled mug yet.. Interesting.

JaneB 04-21-2007 02:55 AM

If you have been diagnosed with a mental illness then you should not be able to own a gun. It is not safe for that person or people around them.

ADL Josh 04-23-2007 06:12 AM

absolutely not!!

Mr. Manson 04-23-2007 07:29 AM

Definitely not!!!

sherie 04-23-2007 07:55 AM

Hmmm so if that is written in there (the ATF law...re patients commited...), why are mentally ill folks still allowed to legally obtain guns, such as the most recent VT shootings?

I suppose all they have to do is lie and check off no and the SHAZAM, "here's your gun sir".

Barefootsies 04-23-2007 08:00 AM

No.

However the Constitution doesn't make the distinction.

:2 cents:

ContentSHOOTER 04-23-2007 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12288325)
Fuck off and die you old puckered twat..:thumbsup

Seriously dude, you need to take one of these and fast:thumbsup







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