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czarina 04-20-2007 08:58 AM

Xenadryne... how bad is it really?
 
I want to lose between 15 and 20 pounds, and although I am against diet pills, I dont have enough will to actually go on a diet. So, despite the fact that Xenadryne with Ephedra has been banned in the States, it is available in Mexico.
But, how dangerous is it really? Has anyone tried it?

Pleasurepays 04-20-2007 09:02 AM

it doesn't matter what pill you are taking if your diet isn't in order. it just won't make a difference at all. the only role for thermogenics in weight loss is when someone has low body fat and wants to go lower.

its ephedra thats banned by the way. i dont think its been proven to be bad in any real way at all.

pornguy 04-20-2007 09:04 AM

Its bad, Except when it makes you go so fast that you have to clean the house.

Right Crash?

Peaches 04-20-2007 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 12285711)
Its bad, Except when it makes you go so fast that you have to clean the house.

Right Crash?

Hell, I'd take it just to make me clean the house....

Pumba 04-20-2007 09:10 AM

I am against pills. It can't be healty anyway. YOU MUST MOVE YOUR ASS AND GET SOME TRANNING, NOTHING GOOD WILL HAPPEN TO YOUR BODY IF YOU USE PILLS, GO ON DIET AND DONT DO ANY TRANNING. .RESPECT YOURSELF AND GET TO THE GYM. GOOD LUCK

ADL Josh 04-20-2007 09:11 AM

I used to take it with the ephedra, never had a problem with it. It can be different for everybody though. Also, if you're not going to excersise or diet with it, it's probably not gonna do much.

princess 04-20-2007 09:22 AM

I agree with them. I use to take it too. But will like any diet you have to eat right and excerise..

ER!C L!VE 04-20-2007 09:40 AM

Check out ECA stack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECA_stack - it's essentially the same thing. You can buy the ingredients separately and save money. Also, ECA is better. Xenadrine doesn't contain ephedrine anymore. Using the ECA stack will get you cut up and get you to lose water weight quickly. Just keep away from high sodium containing foods and watch your carb intake - breads and pasta especially.

Don't believe the hype when it comes to this Ephedrine (which is the only reason why Xenadrine was considered 'bad'). Alcohol kills more people in a day than Ephedrine has since it's introduction to the supplement industry.

Oh, and there is a magic pill - it's called T3. It's a thyroid hormone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid_hormone. You'll die instantly when you take it -- or so the media says, lol. It's a great way to burn fat and lose water weight. It decreases any bloated look you get from eating too much sodium and carbs. T3 is the hormone that is in a nutshell your metabolism. When someone is thin and says they have a high metabolism, then there body natually produces more T3 than average.

Anyway - keep in mind none of this is a substitute for a well balanced diet, but it can be ;)

Eric

Nismo 04-20-2007 09:41 AM

Ephedrine will be making a comeback in limited form here in the states, so I hear.

ER!C L!VE 04-20-2007 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nismo (Post 12285851)
Ephedrine will be making a comeback in limited form here in the states, so I hear.

You can still purchase ephedrine in gel cap form containing guaifenesin at some health food stores. They need a pharmaceutical license in order to distribute it.

pornguy 04-20-2007 10:00 AM

I can buy it. Cheap to.

JD 04-20-2007 10:30 AM

czarina, hit me up and I'll tell you what you need to do. I lost 15lbs in about 6 weeks on my sexy diet.

edit: taking pills w/o diet and exercise won't do jack.

AaronM 04-20-2007 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12285703)
it doesn't matter what pill you are taking if your diet isn't in order. it just won't make a difference at all. the only role for thermogenics in weight loss is when someone has low body fat and wants to go lower.

its ephedra thats banned by the way. i dont think its been proven to be bad in any real way at all.


Not true.

About 6 or 7 years ago I took Xenadrine with Ephedra and I lost 35 pounds in one month without changing my diet at all.

g$$$ 04-20-2007 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ER!C L!VE (Post 12285845)
Check out ECA stack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECA_stack - it's essentially the same thing. You can buy the ingredients separately and save money. Also, ECA is better. Xenadrine doesn't contain ephedrine anymore. Using the ECA stack will get you cut up and get you to lose water weight quickly. Just keep away from high sodium containing foods and watch your carb intake - breads and pasta especially.

Don't believe the hype when it comes to this Ephedrine (which is the only reason why Xenadrine was considered 'bad'). Alcohol kills more people in a day than Ephedrine has since it's introduction to the supplement industry.

Oh, and there is a magic pill - it's called T3. It's a thyroid hormone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid_hormone. You'll die instantly when you take it -- or so the media says, lol. It's a great way to burn fat and lose water weight. It decreases any bloated look you get from eating too much sodium and carbs. T3 is the hormone that is in a nutshell your metabolism. When someone is thin and says they have a high metabolism, then there body natually produces more T3 than average.

Anyway - keep in mind none of this is a substitute for a well balanced diet, but it can be ;)

Eric


I agree with Eric...the ECA stack is the same thing as xenadrine with RFA....

you get caffeine (200 mg), pseudoepherine about 50mg and some baby aspirin ,about 25mg (this is optional)....take that before you workout..u will loss massive weight...do this and cut carbs..u will be looking fly in no time

JD 04-20-2007 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12286115)
Not true.

About 6 or 7 years ago I took Xenadrine with Ephedra and I lost 35 pounds in one month without changing my diet at all.

did you put the weight back on? if so.... it didn't work. imo the whole point of losing weight is to remain lighter than you were previously and WORKING for it is the best way imo.

I've busted my nuts to lose 35lbs and I'll be god damned if I'll gain it back :disgust It's all about lifestyle changes.

g$$$ 04-20-2007 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 12286157)
did you put the weight back on? if so.... it didn't work. imo the whole point of losing weight is to remain lighter than you were previously and WORKING for it is the best way imo.

I've busted my nuts to lose 35lbs and I'll be god damned if I'll gain it back :disgust It's all about lifestyle changes.

You can keep it off with pills..but you pretty much slow down your metabolism when u cycle off of it....need to eat too to keep that high metabolic rate up

Pleasurepays 04-20-2007 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12286115)
Not true.

About 6 or 7 years ago I took Xenadrine with Ephedra and I lost 35 pounds in one month without changing my diet at all.

thats impossible. sorry... but it is. you ate less/differently or you exercised more. you are claiming that you somehow magically had a deficit of about 3500 calories a day when you shouldn't even be eating 3500 a day. also, if you truly did lose that much body weight (notice i am not saying "fat"), dehydration was a factor. they also suppress appetite. you may have thought you were "eating the same things" - but most likely, you were eating significantly less.

thermogenics do VERY LITTLE to increase the total amount of calories burned per day without significant attention to diet and exercise. most pro bodybuilders maintain that the benefit is about 5-10% more calories burned per day. shooting cocaine wouldn't speed up your metabolism to the point that you were burning an extra 3500 calories a day without any other changes in daily habits or diet.

JD 04-20-2007 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by g$$$ (Post 12286163)
You can keep it off with pills..but you pretty much slow down your metabolism when u cycle off of it....need to eat too to keep that high metabolic rate up

yeah i know. I lost 90% of my weight w/o pills. Diet and exercise work amazing if you do it right. I just added pills recently on top of my normal routine to push me over a plateau and I'm taking Hydroxycut Hardcore (good shit)

JD 04-20-2007 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12286167)
thats impossible. sorry... but it is. you ate less/differently or you exercised more. you are claiming that you somehow magically had a deficit of about 3500 calories a day when you shouldn't even be eating 3500 a day. also, if you truly did lose that much body weight (notice i am not saying "fat"), dehydration was a factor. they also suppress appetite. you may have thought you were "eating the same things" - but most likely, you were eating significantly less.

thermogenics do VERY LITTLE to increase the total amount of calories burned per day without significant attention to diet and exercise. most pro bodybuilders maintain that the benefit is about 5-10% more calories burned per day. shooting cocaine wouldn't speed up your metabolism to the point that you were burning an extra 3500 calories a day without any other changes in daily habits or diet.

maybe he was on Mexican Diet pills... (tapeworm) :1orglaugh

g$$$ 04-20-2007 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 12286174)
yeah i know. I lost 90% of my weight w/o pills. Diet and exercise work amazing if you do it right. I just added pills recently on top of my normal routine to push me over a plateau and I'm taking Hydroxycut Hardcore (good shit)

sperm..

no offense..but hydroxycut sucks ass....even the one with ephedrine before the ban sucked ass..u have to take like 100 pills a day too...

i recommend the eca stack for ya =)

starpimps 04-20-2007 10:53 AM

diet + exercise 95%
supplements 5%

everything is bad if you do too much, ive taken ephedra (16mg/day)
i think in each serving there is 24mg of ephaedra in xenadryne tho

JD 04-20-2007 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by g$$$ (Post 12286190)
sperm..

no offense..but hydroxycut sucks ass....even the one with ephedrine before the ban sucked ass..u have to take like 100 pills a day too...

i recommend the eca stack for ya =)

i've done an ECA stack. all it does is make me edgy and gives me insomnia. I've even done clenbuterol and hydroxycut hardcore is the only one that's not fucked me up and i can actually see results...

btw, i take 6 pills/day 3 at 7am and 3 at 6pm

g$$$ 04-20-2007 10:57 AM

oic...not bad...u can try the EC stack...the A is really just for high blood pressure because your blood is thinned out....

6 pills isnt that bad....do u cycle?

AaronM 04-20-2007 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 12286157)
did you put the weight back on? if so.... it didn't work. imo the whole point of losing weight is to remain lighter than you were previously and WORKING for it is the best way imo.

I've busted my nuts to lose 35lbs and I'll be god damned if I'll gain it back :disgust It's all about lifestyle changes.


I kept the weight off for about 3 years. I've since gained 10 pounds back so I'm still 25 pounds lighter after the 6 or 7 years.

AaronM 04-20-2007 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12286167)
thats impossible. sorry... but it is. you ate less/differently or you exercised more. you are claiming that you somehow magically had a deficit of about 3500 calories a day when you shouldn't even be eating 3500 a day. also, if you truly did lose that much body weight (notice i am not saying "fat"), dehydration was a factor. they also suppress appetite. you may have thought you were "eating the same things" - but most likely, you were eating significantly less.

thermogenics do VERY LITTLE to increase the total amount of calories burned per day without significant attention to diet and exercise. most pro bodybuilders maintain that the benefit is about 5-10% more calories burned per day. shooting cocaine wouldn't speed up your metabolism to the point that you were burning an extra 3500 calories a day without any other changes in daily habits or diet.


Never said I didn't exercise. I said I didn't change my diet.

g$$$ 04-20-2007 11:17 AM

35lbs in a month is a little hard to believe my friend...unless u were like 500 lbs to begin with...what was ur starting weight

JD 04-20-2007 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12286333)
Never said I didn't exercise. I said I didn't change my diet.

dude haha if you had changed your diet you'd have lost like 60lbs :X

AaronM 04-20-2007 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by g$$$ (Post 12286343)
35lbs in a month is a little hard to believe my friend...unless u were like 500 lbs to begin with...what was ur starting weight


Way less than 500 lbs.

Doesn't matter to me if you believe it or not. I know it's true.

I felt WAY better. I was much more active, my sexual performance was boosted as well. I got lot more work done because I had more energy and therefore only required about 3 hours of sleep per day.....Or so I thought.

The down side is.....



I ended up catching one hell of a cold....I assume it was because my body was not really getting the rest it needed. The cold wiped me out and I lost my motivation.

g$$$ 04-20-2007 11:26 AM

i know what u mean about the cold..sometimes a multivitamin isnt enough when ur body isnt fully rested because you are dieting...best thing to do is eat alot on the days u feel ur gettingsick

AaronM 04-20-2007 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by g$$$ (Post 12286382)
i know what u mean about the cold..sometimes a multivitamin isnt enough when ur body isnt fully rested because you are dieting...best thing to do is eat alot on the days u feel ur gettingsick


Oh yeah....I forgot I was also taking a GNC Multivitamin....

AaronM 04-20-2007 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g$$$ (Post 12286382)
i know what u mean about the cold..sometimes a multivitamin isnt enough when ur body isnt fully rested because you are dieting...best thing to do is eat alot on the days u feel ur gettingsick


The funny thing is I was feeling very healthy so I decided to go for a jog on an icy evening. Sucked a lot of very cold air into my lungs. The cold symptoms kicked in the next day.

I was doing all of the other exercise at home. Weight bench and Nordic Track. Mostly the Nordic Track.....Which is currently sitting about 5 feet from me. I could use it but I'm wrapped up in a blanket on the couch and rather comfy at the moment. :)

Could somebody bring me a cheeseburger please?

g$$$ 04-20-2007 11:36 AM

yeah...i run about 4-5 miles a day at least 3-4x a week..that keeps it off....

weights not too much although i should do more....

u can always try to take some zync echincea to bolster ur immune system..

AaronM 04-20-2007 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g$$$ (Post 12286417)
yeah...i run about 4-5 miles a day at least 3-4x a week..that keeps it off....

weights not too much although i should do more....

u can always try to take some zync echincea to bolster ur immune system..


What about my cheeseburger request? :disgust

g$$$ 04-20-2007 11:51 AM

heres your cheeseburger!!!

http://www.elements.nb.ca/theme/ecol...eeseburger.jpg

AaronM 04-20-2007 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by g$$$ (Post 12286468)



Are you trying to kill me?

I'm allergic to sesame seeds. :winkwink:

czarina 04-20-2007 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 12286088)
czarina, hit me up and I'll tell you what you need to do. I lost 15lbs in about 6 weeks on my sexy diet.

edit: taking pills w/o diet and exercise won't do jack.

icq number?

czarina 04-20-2007 12:09 PM

the problem is that I dont have the time to exercise much since I work about 10 hours a day and after that I have to take care of my baby and husband, and some a little bit of stuff around the house. Plus since I sit in front of my computer all day long, I don't burn many calories. I don't think I eat that bad or that much for that matter, it's just a matter of low metabolic rate because of not moving much.
I used to be a professional cyclist when I was younger, and after that, I worked out a lot, but now I'm a mommie, and you guys know that mommies don't have much me-time.

czarina 04-20-2007 12:10 PM

by the way, Xenadryne with efedra (or is it ephedra) is available in Mexico without a problem, and I spend weekends in Mexico, so...

JD 04-20-2007 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 12286572)
icq number?

265808340 or see sig

seeric 04-20-2007 12:44 PM

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