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BigBomb 12-06-2006 12:36 AM

NATS or not NATS?
 
Hi all!

I'm thinking to switch my affiliate program to NATS and would like to hear your opinion what do you prefer as affiliate webmaster - NATS or not NATS script?

squishypimp 12-06-2006 12:42 AM

what are you switching from?

spasmo 12-06-2006 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by squishypimp (Post 11468860)
what are you switching from?

A good question indeed.

TMM_John 12-06-2006 12:48 AM

Be careful asking here. There are a # of people lurking here who have other agendas or aren't even webmasters. Make sure you listen to the "why do it" not just the "what to do".

JD 12-06-2006 12:49 AM

imho, NATS isn't the best of the bunch. Just the best marketing. Check out MPA3/Executive Stats/etc before going with NATS

TMM_John 12-06-2006 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 11468895)
imho, NATS isn't the best of the bunch. Just the best marketing. Check out MPA3/Executive Stats/etc before going with NATS

What do you feel is better about MPA3/ES/etc.?

WWC 12-06-2006 01:02 AM

i hear lots of good things about Nats...

BluMedia 12-06-2006 01:06 AM

Nats has been incredible for us. Everything is top notch and I would recommend them 100%

Mark

bdld 12-06-2006 01:12 AM

from an affiliates point of view i prefer NATS. why? campaign codes, encoded/unencoded links, easy link to join links.

munki 12-06-2006 01:15 AM

I'm a big fan of nats, both from sponsor and affiliates point of views...

IamShaider 12-06-2006 03:10 AM

NATS baby! all the way :thumbsup

Wazaber 12-06-2006 03:46 AM

Don't waste your time, NATS da best!

Dejan 12-06-2006 04:21 AM

I like nats too.

MarkDefacto 12-06-2006 04:33 AM

I prefer NATS over ccbill if that is what you might switch from.

jact 12-06-2006 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 11468905)
What do you feel is better about MPA3/ES/etc.?

Without remembering too many specifics (It's been a couple months since I reviewed the features of all the products out there), some offered some great features, but lacked completely in other areas. There's no true winner that I found with any of them for someone seeking something truly feature rich.

On the affiliate side of things, I've only promoted one program using NATS for any amount of time, and the interface was frustrating enough to me not to seek out further programs running it. I'm not even sure what specifically put me off, but it didn't have a very good "flow" to it. Navigation could definitely use some big improvements.

(I meant all of the above as constructive criticisms, not to bash you. NATS is a very solid product with some great features).

Jizar II 12-06-2006 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by munki (Post 11469048)
I'm a big fan of nats, both from sponsor and affiliates point of views...

What is bad from a sponsor POV? It's interesting to hear end user info :)

ladida 12-06-2006 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 11468895)
imho, NATS isn't the best of the bunch. Just the best marketing. Check out MPA3/Executive Stats/etc before going with NATS

Hah, it's actually quite the oposite. MPA has better marketing then NATS as they snag'd some big contracts latelly, eventho they carry an inferior product. Imho, NATS burned alot of bridges with some of it's marketing campaigns latelly.

The Ghost 12-06-2006 05:00 AM

We use NATS and love it, but what would prompt you to make the change?


The question of what script you are you using for affiliate management currently is a very good one. And what program this is for. There are a few programs that even the almighty himself could help.

VegasKingPin 12-06-2006 05:07 AM

NATS would have to be one of the best affiliate tracking systems money could buy :2 cents:

Crazy Ben 12-06-2006 05:14 AM

I have to say that i like the layout of mpa3 much better then that one of nats. for the admin and the aff

Miguel T 12-06-2006 05:52 AM

I love using NATS as an affiliate.

RSN 12-06-2006 06:30 AM

nats of course nats

Jiraya 12-06-2006 06:45 AM

nats will definitely be worth your while

d00t 12-06-2006 07:49 AM

If you want your affiliate program to offer nothing more than a lot of other programs out there, then use NATS! :)

spacedog 12-06-2006 08:06 AM

What it all really boils down to is what you desire & need in the product.
You need to take a look at the systems you're thinking about using & see which is more compatible & functional to suit your needs. Also, you need to consider the product's compatibility with your current billing system, as well as its compatibility with any other systems or programs you would be running concurrently alongside the tracking software.
Next factor you should be considering is the level & treatment of customer service you expect from the tracking software staff. You surely would like to be treated with respect, courtesy & professionalism.

Another thing you need to be thinking about when making your decision is about your own skills & qualifications in regards to use, installation & admin of the system. I'm not up to par with quite a few of the systems available, but I am certain all of them offer large amounts of assistance when it comes to these issues.. Nats, I believe, is the most helpful when it comes to installation, so I hear.

You're gonna hear/see both yay & nay on just about any product, so, take into account alot of things.. not just what people say.

In my opinion.. for my own program, I would not switch from CCBill to nats, due to previous known facts about the compatibility, or conflicting systems.

I would not use nats if I was to expect respectful, courteous, professional treatment from staff.

Otherwise, there's no real reason you should not use it.


btw.. in regards to treatment, Oscar Oystein of MPA3 is very personable & great fellow to deal with

SmokeyTheBear 12-06-2006 08:18 AM

theres many areas to look at ...

Flat out my nats sponsors dont perform as well as non-nats sponsors.. could be purely coincidence or something more, i wont get into that..

As far as "box" software , its about as good as it gets and well recognized..

If you already have a good affiliate base built up and the software your currently using isnt lacking in any way , i dont see the need.

If your a smaller affiliate base and you need more features or dont have the investment money to have a custom software created fr you i think nats is the perfect solution.

Having your affiliate area look much like all the others can be both a good thing and a bad thing.. Makes it easy for new affiliates to navigate as they are used to the layout , but also tends to make you stand out less , so you better have something quality to make you stand out amongst the others

SCORE Ralph 12-06-2006 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact (Post 11469646)
There's no true winner that I found with any of them for someone seeking something truly feature rich.

On the affiliate side of things, I've only promoted one program using NATS for any amount of time, and the interface was frustrating enough to me not to seek out further programs running it. I'm not even sure what specifically put me off, but it didn't have a very good "flow" to it. Navigation could definitely use some big improvements.

(I meant all of the above as constructive criticisms, not to bash you. NATS is a very solid product with some great features).

Just to give my 2 cents here... you can create your own navigation and dont have to follow the NATS work flow. If you know HTML--as we all should in this biz--you would be fine with incorporating your own design.

Also, from having to manage a 40+ site affiliate program using NATS, I can tell you that its best equipped for programs with more than 1 or 2 sites.

Good luck in your search.

jact 12-06-2006 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspwm (Post 11470740)
Just to give my 2 cents here... you can create your own navigation and dont have to follow the NATS work flow. If you know HTML--as we all should in this biz--you would be fine with incorporating your own design.

Also, from having to manage a 40+ site affiliate program using NATS, I can tell you that its best equipped for programs with more than 1 or 2 sites.

Good luck in your search.

The backend is simply wonderful, easy to get into, easy to understand, easy to work with. The support documents, the video training, everything is fantastic.

As far as changing the work flow, I guess most program owners running it are lazy, they all look the same to me. lol.

jmk 12-06-2006 11:11 AM

Yawn ..... sig spot :)

BradShaw 12-06-2006 11:18 AM

Nats is good, but if you are looking to own your own code, check out Executive Stats

http://www.executivestats.com

BoyAlley 12-06-2006 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 11468905)
What do you feel is better about MPA3/ES/etc.?


How about the fact that MPA3 and ES aren't companies run by you?

After seeing the way you've responded to people and various situations over the past few months, that's reason enough for me!

Klen 12-06-2006 11:53 AM

NATS are good but they are way overpriced.I mean 12500$ plus install fee for few functions?It simply doesnt worth it.

RealityWife 12-06-2006 12:09 PM

NATS is a great affiliate software. It was designed with both the program owner and affiliates in mind. The navigation is top of the line and when I say that, I mean its easy, fast, and well thought out. I have yet to find something it will not do. Customer Support is excellent to understate it a tad.

Pete-KT 12-06-2006 12:11 PM

Nats of course, offers everything we need and is the easiest for the affilaites to use

tranza 12-06-2006 12:20 PM

What's your program?

scottybuzz 12-06-2006 12:31 PM

as an affilaite nats is the coolest for me to use.

TMM_John 12-06-2006 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact (Post 11469646)
Without remembering too many specifics (It's been a couple months since I reviewed the features of all the products out there), some offered some great features, but lacked completely in other areas. There's no true winner that I found with any of them for someone seeking something truly feature rich.

On the affiliate side of things, I've only promoted one program using NATS for any amount of time, and the interface was frustrating enough to me not to seek out further programs running it. I'm not even sure what specifically put me off, but it didn't have a very good "flow" to it. Navigation could definitely use some big improvements.

(I meant all of the above as constructive criticisms, not to bash you. NATS is a very solid product with some great features).

You're right. The default affiliate templates we provide to programs on install are dated and not very good. We left them very basic under the assumption that most would want to give them their own look & feel. We were wrong on that and most seem to want something out of the box that they can just use. A few of the larger programs love to tweak and edit everything to their own style but the smaller and a lot of o the mid-size guys want to just get something up and going.

We are in the process of creating a "standard NATS affiliate skin" which will be included with all programs and available to their affiliates to choose. This skin will be clean and is going to take the input from affiliates such as getting link codes easier, having all FHG links for all sites given at once by default, using non-encoded link codes by default, etc. If anyone has any input on the interface now would be the time to send it our way so please do.

TMM_John 12-06-2006 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11471860)

How about the fact that MPA3 and ES aren't companies run by you?

After seeing the way you've responded to people and various situations over the past few months, that's reason enough for me!

I'm sorry I jumped on you the other day in that thread. I was frustrated with the way this board has been lately and I directed it towards you. I apologize for it.

UP IN Smoke 12-06-2006 12:46 PM

I love NATS! I would not use anything else.

RBC 12-06-2006 12:52 PM

nats is ok

and they have some good anti-fraud module which you will probably like.

Sorry John, it's just a joke :)


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