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__MS__ 07-03-2006 04:51 PM

anyone here ever got accused of cp?
 
Did anyone here running a teen site ever get accused of distributing cp? How did you get out of it?

Fah King 07-03-2006 04:59 PM

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__MS__ 07-03-2006 05:02 PM

lol?
what's that supposed to be?

Fah King 07-03-2006 05:03 PM

Whats your teen site?:winkwink:

__MS__ 07-03-2006 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fah King
Whats your teen site?:winkwink:

a teen tgp using fhg

babymaker 07-03-2006 05:06 PM

Who's accusing??

DutchTeenCash 07-03-2006 05:07 PM

nice first post

well when youre all 2557 ok then theres nothing to worry bout isnt there. Then again with a first post like that n all I guess theres trouble.

RogerV10 07-03-2006 05:07 PM

Why woudl you have to "get out of it"
If your shit is leagal dont worry about it.

Worldnet 07-03-2006 05:08 PM

Back when the net was new, I had some asian girls up. People thought they were underage, but they were not. Asaian girls stay young looking for al long time.

DutchTeenCash 07-03-2006 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by __MS__
a teen tgp using fhg

url?

oh and if you cant login after that url post anymore you know

__MS__ 07-03-2006 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker
Who's accusing??

police
had them visit last week

notabook 07-03-2006 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldnet
Back when the net was new, I had some asian girls up. People thought they were underage, but they were not. Asaian girls stay young looking for al long time.

I've known quite a few Asians who look like they are 16 until they hit their late 30's or early 40?s, then they all seem to turn into little fat women for the rest of their lives. It's a sad fate really.

__MS__ 07-03-2006 05:10 PM

well it's not my first post .. just a new nick for this
All the tpg runs is FHG provided by sponsors.

I was just wondering if anyone ever had the same probs and how they were able to prove that there is nothing to it.

icedemon 07-03-2006 05:14 PM

If you bought the pics/videos, just get what you need from the business you bought them from (or have the cops talk to the place you bought from). If you took the pics/videos yourself, show them the ids you have of the models.

babymaker 07-03-2006 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by __MS__
police
had them visit last week

Holy Shit! So it's serious, why not post the url?? Did you get a lawyer??

DutchTeenCash 07-03-2006 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by __MS__
well it's not my first post .. just a new nick for this
All the tpg runs is FHG provided by sponsors.

I was just wondering if anyone ever had the same probs and how they were able to prove that there is nothing to it.

EDIT

didnt see the police post

OK so they came over, thats weird. What did they do? Ask if you could show docs? Law inf officers can require them at any time

__MS__ 07-03-2006 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx
I dont get it

Why are you worried?


well I guess some people get worried when the police searches your place.

About the url .. I won't post it here at this point. It's a general teen tgp. Nothing different than most other sites out there. Just bad luck they picked me I guess.

Thing is .. they have no clue about how a tgp works and where the content comes from and so on.

I guess the teen niche has those risks though. Shouldn't have posted some of the fhgs where they try to make their girls look younger than they really are

__MS__ 07-03-2006 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx
EDIT

didnt see the police post

OK so they came over, thats weird. What did they do? Ask if you could show docs? Law inf officers can require them at any time

well .. the added prob is that I'm not in the country until october or so. That doesn't make it any easier to defend myself from that crap

Webby 07-03-2006 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by __MS__
well I guess some people get worried when the police searches your place.

About the url .. I won't post it here at this point. It's a general teen tgp. Nothing different than most other sites out there. Just bad luck they picked me I guess.

Thing is .. they have no clue about how a tgp works and where the content comes from and so on.

I guess the teen niche has those risks though. Shouldn't have posted some of the fhgs where they try to make their girls look younger than they really are

Nothing unusual to have a police visit in the adult biz. You gave them the usual coffee and a chat?

OK... During this search did they find CP on your premises or computers?

No...Guess it's not a good idea to portray girls "younger than they really are"...

Fah King 07-03-2006 05:24 PM

Well if all the 2257 docs are in order you should not worry about a thing :)

__MS__ 07-03-2006 05:27 PM

well I wasn't at home when they visited.
And I won't be home until October.

So at this point I don't even know the exact pics in question.

My question is .. has anyone ever had visitors? Were you able to work the stuff out pretty fast when you showed them the 2257 docs?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby
Nothing unusual to have a police visit in the adult biz. You gave them the usual coffee and a chat?

OK... During this search did they find CP on your premises or computers?

No...Guess it's not a good idea to portray girls "younger than they really are"...


MaddCaz 07-03-2006 05:28 PM

MS is the poolicceee!!!

Webby 07-03-2006 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by __MS__
well I wasn't at home when they visited.
And I won't be home until October.

So at this point I don't even know the exact pics in question.

My question is .. has anyone ever had visitors? Were you able to work the stuff out pretty fast when you showed them the 2257 docs?

OK.. Will treat this seriously - assuming you are genuine.

The police visited your home (in the US?) and with a warrant or just an inquiry regarding some unidentifiable pics on a website which may have featured what?

Law enforcement are aware you are not in the country at this time? They leave a number of an officer you can contact?

This is really not the place for advice man, but you may get a few possible avenues to proceed - assuming that's what your looking for.

__MS__ 07-03-2006 05:37 PM

oh I know this is not the place for advice. Just looking for experience. Coz to be honest .. I've been pretty shocked when I heard this. Esp. since in my country (european) cp is defined as girls beeing younger than 14. And it is pretty hard for me to imagine how anyone can think that the girls are younger than 14

From what I was able to gather so far they busted some guy with tons of cp on his computer and they traced back some images (My guess would be he had some in his browser cache) to the tpg which used to run under my name.

So they showed up at my place with a warrent and searched it. The info I have is based on the protocol they left and from when I called them this morning to find out some stuff about it.
They did not take anything since nothing of relevance was at the place (I have my laptop with me)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby
OK.. Will treat this seriously - assuming you are genuine.

The police visited your home (in the US?) and with a warrant or just an inquiry regarding some unidentifiable pics on a website which may have featured what?

Law enforcement are aware you are not in the country at this time? They leave a number of an officer you can contact?

This is really not the place for advice man, but you may get a few possible avenues to proceed - assuming that's what your looking for.


CaptainHowdy 07-03-2006 05:38 PM

Wtf Lol!

babymaker 07-03-2006 05:41 PM

hmmm, something doesn't add up here, why not post the url??? it doesn't make sence..who did the police talk to?? who was there? curious??

Dirty Dane 07-03-2006 05:41 PM

The best way to "get away with it".... is not promoting it.

__MS__ 07-03-2006 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker
hmmm, something doesn't add up here, why not post the url??? it doesn't make sence..who did the police talk to?? who was there? curious??

Well one of the reasons for not posting the url is because
a) it's not mine any more (the domain was still in my name at the time they started the investigation)
b) I don't want the site to lose its trades

My gf came home and found the appt. searched and they left a protocol about it.

Webby 07-03-2006 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by __MS__
oh I know this is not the place for advice. Just looking for experience. Coz to be honest .. I've been pretty shocked when I heard this. Esp. since in my country (european) cp is defined as girls beeing younger than 14. And it is pretty hard for me to imagine how anyone can think that the girls are younger than 14

From what I was able to gather so far they busted some guy with tons of cp on his computer and they traced back some images (My guess would be he had some in his browser cache) to the tpg which used to run under my name.

So they showed up at my place with a warrent and searched it. The info I have is based on the protocol they left and from when I called them this morning to find out some stuff about it.
They did not take anything since nothing of relevance was at the place (I have my laptop with me)

Mmm.. messy and the usual contamination and ripple effects from other areas.

Not getting it yet... is this correct? You are a US citizen, but living in an EU country which has CP defined as being under 14 and you plan to return to the US in October. Right now, your property was visited in the US by law enforcement in possession of a warrant, - and the basis of this is prob following on from an enquiry into other issues which you are saying is not connected with your business.

When you called, did the officer confirm or deny you are "clear" of the matter or was there an indication he would like to take a statement from you? They confirm that there was no property removed from your premises?

Excuse all the.. what may sound like irrelevant questions - it's hard to say till some detail is known.

babymaker 07-03-2006 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by __MS__
From what I was able to gather so far they busted some guy with tons of cp on his computer and they traced back some images (My guess would be he had some in his browser cache) to the tpg which used to run under my name.

so what did you do buy an expired cp name and put some edge sponsors on it pushing faux CP teens?? to monetize the typein traffic??:Oh crap

__MS__ 07-03-2006 05:50 PM

I'm from Europe and I'm currently in the US. Will be until the end of October.
So my appt at home was searched and I wasn't there. They left a protocol of what they took. Basically it was my gf's computer since they thought it might be mine. She got it back already thogh.

The police officer told me today that I'm beeing accused of distributing cp. But since I've told them where they are it is unlikely that the prosecuter will go for a arrest warrent since I told them where I am and how to reach me and they would only issue arrest warrents if they are afraid the 'criminal' might disappear.

From what I understand investigation is still ongoing but I'm the accused in this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby
Mmm.. messy and the usual contamination and ripple effects from other areas.

Not getting it yet... is this correct? You are a US citizen, but living in an EU country which has CP defined as being under 14 and you plan to return to the US in October. Right now, your property was visited in the US by law enforcement in possession of a warrant, - and the basis of this is prob following on from an enquiry into other issues which you are saying is not connected with your business.

When you called, did the officer confirm or deny you are "clear" of the matter or was there an indication he would like to take a statement from you? They confirm that there was no property removed from your premises?

Excuse all the.. what may sound like irrelevant questions - it's hard to say till some detail is known.


__MS__ 07-03-2006 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker
so what did you do buy an expired cp name and put some edge sponsors on it pushing faux CP teens?? to monetize the typein traffic??:Oh crap

nothing cp related. The domain does have the word teen in it though .. like pretty much all other teen tgps.
I definitly never tried to profit from anything underage or pedo. I don't think the domain gets any typeins at all. Besides from bookmarkers.

Webby 07-03-2006 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by __MS__
I'm from Europe and I'm currently in the US. Will be until the end of October.
So my appt at home was searched and I wasn't there. They left a protocol of what they took. Basically it was my gf's computer since they thought it might be mine. She got it back already thogh.

The police officer told me today that I'm beeing accused of distributing cp. But since I've told them where they are it is unlikely that the prosecuter will go for a arrest warrent since I told them where I am and how to reach me and they would only issue arrest warrents if they are afraid the 'criminal' might disappear.

From what I understand investigation is still ongoing but I'm the accused in this.

OK.. So this is not US law enforcement who searched your home which is in Europe. And.. good news, they returned your gf's computer already.

Basically... if they want to continue with the allegations, any prosecutor needs evidence on which to base this. Presumably we are talking about a possible prosecution in your home country - and not in the US.

Only my :2 cents: worth - it would appear there is some basis for continuance of the enquiry. You would clearly know a lot more about that side. There is also a possibility that if concrete evidence is available, that an application could be made within the US for extradiction proceedings to have you transported to your home country. (The US often has dual-treaties to cover CP with a few other countries, - but very reluctant to give up their own citizens for pedo offenses in other nations.)

If you "know" genuinely that you have not been engaging in elements of CP and the allegations of police in your home country are not as they may be claiming - is it worth engaging a lawyer in your home country and working thru him to make any necessary statements and provide whatever evidence he may consider relevant to the police and clear this matter up?

Webby 07-03-2006 06:07 PM

Just a side comment.... You have two areas of jurisdiction here. If you are living, hosting or have a biz based in the US - you are obliged to comply with US laws. Now... enter stuff like 2257 etc.

For any extradiction prospect to be feasible, - you have to commit what is known as an "extradictable offense". The basis of an "extradictable offense" is normally that it is a offense in both the host country (ie US) and your home country.

CP is clearly a US offense - and what you seem to be saying, it's the same in your home country in that it is defined as minors under 14 years of age.

DutchTeenCash 07-03-2006 06:10 PM

If youre no US citizen how can you stay in the US till the end of October? Sorry but the US European issues are kinda blurry to me.

DutchTeenCash 07-03-2006 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby
Just a side comment.... You have two areas of jurisdiction here. If you are living, hosting or have a biz based in the US - you are obliged to comply with US laws. Now... enter stuff like 2257 etc.

For any extradiction prospect to be feasible, - you have to commit what is known as an "extradictable offense". The basis of an "extradictable offense" is normally that it is a offense in both the host country (ie US) and your home country.

CP is clearly a US offense - and what you seem to be saying, it's the same in your home country in that it is defined as minors under 14 years of age.

Well said.

If hes hosting in the US then it matters shit where hes from. He has to comply with US rules like everyone else.

Im sorry but its all a bit messy.

Webby 07-03-2006 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx
If youre no US citizen how can you stay in the US till the end of October?

Spotted that one thinkx :) There may be valid reasons for this - detail is all-important :winkwink:

DutchTeenCash 07-03-2006 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby
Spotted that one thinkx :) There may be valid reasons for this - detail is all-important :winkwink:

His english is flawless theres something weird. Im also wondering what EU country has 14 as the age of cons

Doctor Dre 07-03-2006 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by __MS__
police
had them visit last week

You should contact your sponsors right now and ask them for the 2257 docs.

Dirty Dane 07-03-2006 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx
Well said.

If hes hosting in the US then it matters shit where hes from. He has to comply with US rules like everyone else.

Im sorry but its all a bit messy.

Its messy, but its kind of grey-zone if u don't live in US. Its not illegal for foreigners to host in US, but with the reverse "guilty until proven" 2257... how are they gonna inspect a foreigner? You can comply with giving an adress, but its useless.


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