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Greg B 06-22-2006 08:32 AM

UFOs Fact vs Fiction & Top 10 UFO Mysteries Solved
 
http://www.space.com/news/060622_alien_encounters.html

That's a new story on this phenomena

Here are 10 UFO related mysteries the researchers claim have been solved.

http://www.space.com/top10_alienenco..._debunked.html

xxxdesign-net 06-22-2006 08:39 AM

Benjamin Radford is a writer and the managing editor of Skeptical Inquirer science magazine... lol


I've read some of them... seems like anything can pass for "debunking" these days... Nevermind leaving most of the details out.. Very scientific of him... lmao

gooddomains 06-22-2006 08:40 AM

come on, all this UFO crap belongs to X Files

Greg B 06-22-2006 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
Benjamin Radford is a writer and the managing editor of Skeptical Inquirer science magazine... lol


I've read some of them... seems like anything can pass for "debunking" these days... Nevermind leaving most of the details out.. Very scientific of him... lmao

Here's one thing that always amazed me in over 25 years of reluctantly studying UFOs:

UFO researchers are always broke fighting for funding to do research but UFO debunkers are always rolling in unending sources of funding.

Debunkers show up at conventions in Mercedes Benz and UFO researchers show up in rented RVs.

Makes ya wonder.

Greg B 06-22-2006 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains
come on, all this UFO crap belongs to X Files

Y'know for something that doesn't exist the government has spent a fuckload of money covering up the fact that something doesn't exist.

Go figure.

Bird 06-22-2006 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg B
Y'know for something that doesn't exist the government has spent a fuckload of money covering up the fact that something doesn't exist.

Go figure.


Thats exacly where your porn taxes go to.

Donny 06-22-2006 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg B
Here's one thing that always amazed me in over 25 years of reluctantly studying UFOs:

UFO researchers are always broke fighting for funding to do research but UFO debunkers are always rolling in unending sources of funding.

Debunkers show up at conventions in Mercedes Benz and UFO researchers show up in rented RVs.

Makes ya wonder.


"Makes ya wonder"? No, it doesn't. It says, "This guy is some crack pot while this guy is a professional."

J. Falcon 06-22-2006 11:59 AM

I would really love to hear someones argument on how we are alone in the universe. The idea that the humans (a pretty stupid fucking race) are the only living beings in the entire universe is ridiculous.

Phoenix 06-22-2006 12:02 PM

all you nay sayers need to watch the disclosure project

xxxdesign-net 06-22-2006 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny
"Makes ya wonder"? No, it doesn't. It says, "This guy is some crack pot while this guy is a professional."


a crack pot? and you would know that how?

Greg B 06-22-2006 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny
"Makes ya wonder"? No, it doesn't. It says, "This guy is some crack pot while this guy is a professional."

No it doesn't. That's a broad generalization that's unwarranted.

It shows how there's a definite agenda to suppress any data that may confirm the theories and facts presented by UFO investigations.


There's more to UFO investigations than whether ETs are visiting. That's just ONE hypothesis. There's much more shit dug up like illegal experimentations on citizens, misappropriated tax dollars, stolen technology, stolen land,
threats agains citizens, violations of constitutional rights and the list goes on.

We all know our government and industries would never engage in such dispicable practices so I guess the UFO researchers are wrong eh?

xNetworx 06-22-2006 12:26 PM

Where are the alien bodies? Where is the spacecraft? I used to believe in Aliens and UFO until I realized the only evidence is bs fiction and what have you.

Pron Don 06-22-2006 12:27 PM

i had sex with a ufo

Phoenix 06-22-2006 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn
Where are the alien bodies? Where is the spacecraft? I used to believe in Aliens and UFO until I realized the only evidence is bs fiction and what have you.

you live in arizona?

ever hear of this?
http://www.lightsoverphoenix.com/
http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/19/ufo.lights/
http://www.rense.com/general40/phoenix.htm
http://www.thephoenixlights.net/

Matt 26z 06-22-2006 01:21 PM

If aliens are not visiting, then the only other explanation is that a certain number of governments around the world are suppressing really amazing aircraft technology from the general public.

xNetworx 06-22-2006 01:21 PM


Interesting... Still no evidence of actual UFOs

Lazonby 06-22-2006 01:32 PM

1. We're not alone in the universe (or multiverse or whatever the fuck we live in).

2. UFOs will almost certainly never visit Earth. The distances involved are prohibitive.

Lazonby 06-22-2006 01:39 PM

The thing is though, people who believe in UFOs, ghosts, spirituality and the like can claim not only to be more interesting than those who don't but can also claim to be more 'open-minded' than those who do not. Of course, people who believe in bullshit are not really more interesting than more clever people and they are certainly not more open-minded. But don't tell them that. It might shatter their illusions.

V_RocKs 06-22-2006 02:32 PM

I am an alien.

madawgz 06-22-2006 02:34 PM

ufo's arnt real, but i bet there is life outside the universe...

sicus 06-22-2006 02:36 PM

i hope theres aliens since a big portion of humans seem to be completely fucked, so im really hoping theres a better option out there

Phoenix 06-22-2006 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn
Interesting... Still no evidence of actual UFOs


yes but something the size of a small town flew over your state..lol

Big Red Machine 06-22-2006 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon
I would really love to hear someones argument on how we are alone in the universe. The idea that the humans (a pretty stupid fucking race) are the only living beings in the entire universe is ridiculous.

Alot of wasted Real Estate if thats the case

mrblackdesign6 06-22-2006 02:56 PM

Cool, I like mysteries :) Great read

xxxdesign-net 06-22-2006 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby
The thing is though, people who believe in UFOs, ghosts, spirituality and the like can claim not only to be more interesting than those who don't but can also claim to be more 'open-minded' than those who do not. Of course, people who believe in bullshit are not really more interesting than more clever people and they are certainly not more open-minded. But don't tell them that. It might shatter their illusions.

yeah.. something like that... lol What type of research have you done concerning the subject again..? None? Thats what I thought...

and btw " UFOs will almost certainly never visit Earth. The distances involved are prohibitive." ... haha... keep up with your dumb assumptions.. Btw, what do you know about future technologies/innovations millions of years from now? I hope you figured out they might be more advance than us right? lol

cheekycherry 06-22-2006 03:13 PM

It's all REAL!

I swear!

I was anal probed 3 nights in a row. I enjoyed it.


*edit by an alien of course*

Lazonby 06-22-2006 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
yeah.. something like that... lol What type of research have you done concerning the subject again..? None? Thats what I thought...

and btw " UFOs will almost certainly never visit Earth. The distances involved are prohibitive." ... haha... keep up with your dumb assumptions.. Btw, what do you know about future technologies/innovations millions of years from now? I hope you figured out they might be more advance than us right? lol

Well, what we do know is that high speed travel (travel which is close to the speed of light, which would be necessary for interstellar travel) produces a 'blue shift' (or is it a red shift, hmm I can't remember) which produces such high levels of destructive radiation such as would make the journey impossible.

We also know that should an alien race have the knowledge to 'bend space' (ie. create a wormhole), the energy requirements would be prohibitive.

We also know that we have only been sending out radio waves for around a hundred years, putting the vast majority of even our own universe beyond any knowledge of our existence.

So, it's reasonable to state that even if aliens knew we were here (which they don't), to visit us they would have to take a trip lasting thousands of years at the minimum through impenetrably sterilising radiation or would have to risk creating a black hole by trying to open a wormhole to get to us. And for what? What could they learn from us? Why would they even want to take the trip?

But then again, I don't accept the existence of ghosts, gods or fairies either, so what do I know. :winkwink:

jollyperv 06-22-2006 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon
I would really love to hear someones argument on how we are alone in the universe. The idea that the humans (a pretty stupid fucking race) are the only living beings in the entire universe is ridiculous.

I agree. It's is mathematically impossible for us to be alone.

xxxdesign-net 06-22-2006 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

We also know that should an alien race have the knowledge to 'bend space' (ie. create a wormhole), the energy requirements would be prohibitive.


Are you even serious? We recently discovered the possibilty of wormholes, anti-matter, negetive energy... and you already willing to conclude that the energy requirements would be too great to travel thru wormholes and it could never be done...!??? lol You dont even know what we'll discover in 200 years, imagine in 1 million..! :helpme

Juilan 06-24-2006 08:01 AM

What a bunch of crap, you'd think this site would at least use citations and the scientific method to debunk.

jono 06-24-2006 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jollyperv
I agree. It's is mathematically impossible for us to be alone.

totally!!!!

HpicAnn 06-24-2006 08:20 AM

All those things hapend far away from where i live. and reading about it it's just like a fake story. but there is something true that the US goverment is covering.

E$_manager 06-24-2006 08:27 AM

the truth is ....
i do believe all this stories.

Screaming 06-24-2006 08:32 AM

the truth is out theres

Libertine 06-24-2006 08:33 AM

The only voices of reason in this thread seem to be Lazonby and Donny.

There is a pretty big chance that life exists in other places in the universe. However, chances of a majority of that life being ahead of humans in terms of intelligence and technology are not all that big. Remember, on earth, humans are by far the most intelligent and technologically advanced creatures on earth, among thousands of different species.

So it does not seem unreasonable to assume that, to make life more advanced than humans likely, there has to be a LOT of life in the universe. Still, that's possible. However, for lifeforms to be able to find out that there's life on earth, they would have to be vastly superior in terms of technology (and possibly intelligence) to humans. Once again, chances get slimmer. One can also assume that to discover life on earth in the vastness of the universe also involves a good amount of sheer luck. And chances get even slimmer...

To travel to earth, of course, would require even more advanced technology - if it is possible at all. Even assuming that the growth of technological knowledge is exponential (and thus goes faster the further along you get), this still lessens the chances of such a kind of life existing, finding us and visiting us.

All these factors combined make the chance of aliens visiting us pretty small. But if they would visit us, WHY THE FUCK would they not make contact, yet get spotted by all kinds of idiots in tin foil hats?

xxxdesign-net 06-24-2006 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by punkworld
The only voices of reason in this thread seem to be Lazonby and Donny.

There is a pretty big chance that life exists in other places in the universe. However, chances of a majority of that life being ahead of humans in terms of intelligence and technology are not all that big. Remember, on earth, humans are by far the most intelligent and technologically advanced creatures on earth, among thousands of different species.

So it does not seem unreasonable to assume that, to make life more advanced than humans likely, there has to be a LOT of life in the universe. Still, that's possible. However, for lifeforms to be able to find out that there's life on earth, they would have to be vastly superior in terms of technology (and possibly intelligence) to humans. Once again, chances get slimmer. One can also assume that to discover life on earth in the vastness of the universe also involves a good amount of sheer luck. And chances get even slimmer...

To travel to earth, of course, would require even more advanced technology - if it is possible at all. Even assuming that the growth of technological knowledge is exponential (and thus goes faster the further along you get), this still lessens the chances of such a kind of life existing, finding us and visiting us.

All these factors combined make the chance of aliens visiting us pretty small. But if they would visit us, WHY THE FUCK would they not make contact, yet get spotted by all kinds of idiots in tin foil hats?

lol... yeah.. thats like a woman that kills her husband.. detectives find plenty of strong evidences proving she's the killer.. but the dumb prosecutor wont even look at them because gee... WHY THE FUCK would a nice church going lady murder her loving husband....?? Keep assuming pal.. don't educate yourself on the subject.. Intellectual rigueur is obviously something your are not familiar with...

p.s. coming to the same conclusion as Donny should be a sign that you have more homework to do on the subject... :winkwink:

Libertine 06-24-2006 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
lol... yeah.. thats like a woman that kills her husband.. detectives find plenty of strong evidences proving she's the killer.. but the dumb prosecutor wont even look at them because gee... WHY THE FUCK would a nice church going lady murder her loving husband....?? Keep assuming pal.. don't educate yourself on the subject.. Intellectual rigueur is obviously something your are not familiar with...

p.s. coming to the same conclusion as Donny should be a sign that you have more homework to do on the subject... :winkwink:

There isn't plenty of strong evidence that aliens do visit the earth in UFOs. There's a crapload of really, really, REALLY shitty stories from people who are for the most part completely unreliable. The same kind of people who talk to the Virgin Mary, believe Elvis and Tupac are alive and living on Mars, etc.

PS. Intellectual "rigueur" is indeed something I am not familiar with. What I do know, however, is that when trying to criticise someone's intellectual capacities, correct spelling is de rigueur.

xxxdesign-net 06-24-2006 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by punkworld
There isn't plenty of strong evidence that aliens do visit the earth in UFOs.

and how would you know that? When did you research the subject again? lol You know anything about the Disclosure Project?

Quote:


PS. Intellectual "rigueur" is indeed something I am not familiar with. What I do know, however, is that when trying to criticise someone's intellectual capacities, correct spelling is de rigueur.
:eek7 okkkkk.. wanna take your own advice...? lol ... rigueur is a french word, I speak french, you don't... de rigueur is something else unrelated...

Intellectual rigour ? Sounds more familiar..?

xxxdesign-net 06-24-2006 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
okkkkk.. wanna take your own advice...? lol ... rigueur is a french word, I speak french, you don't... de rigueur is something else unrelated...

nevermind that... misread .. thought you meant "rigueur" is spelled "de rigueur" .... :)

Libertine 06-24-2006 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
and how would you know that? When did you research the subject again? lol You know anything about the Disclosure Project?

Yes, I do know about the Disclosure Project. I also know about the Drake Equation. Do you?


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