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Michael O 02-20-2006 04:39 PM

Everyone is bitching about GUBA but why did GFY allow the skin?
 
Everyone is bitching about GUBA and in my opinion rightfully.

But how could GFY allow them to advertise here and even skin the board is beyond me.
GUBA supports theft of content from sites owned by many of their other advertisers.

u-Bob 02-20-2006 04:40 PM

money? more drama on the board?...

JamesK2 02-20-2006 04:41 PM

I agree 100%, it is unacceptable that GFY promotes something that is really destroying the industry.

circlekhabib 02-20-2006 04:42 PM

"But how could GFY allow them to advertise here and even skin the board is beyond me"
since you didn't join just yesterday I have no
clue why this is beyond you.

Libertine 02-20-2006 04:42 PM

Money, and the fact that Playboy has already had its content removed from Guba/

Michael O 02-20-2006 04:42 PM

Posted in another thread
Original post by Pam Winter on another board and a great post.

Quote:

This will be a controversial post for sure! Why do we, as adult webmasters, support theft? We do, you know. I'm going to talk about 2 situations but I am NOT picking on any individual.

First, we have a webmaster here who talks about **** and encourages webmasters to sign up under him/her. Now, **** is a major pet peeve of mine, and let me tell you why and explain what it is.

**** sells access to materials from the Usenet newsgroups. Back in the beginning, Usenet was the only way most surfers obtained photos and videos. Most ISPs would carry the newsgroups at no cost, though some tried to filter out the adult groups (that's another story for another thread). Basically surfers would join paysites, then post the photos they found. Other surfers would then download them. MANY paysites were started this way, with stolen content. I knew a 15-year old who would download pictures and put them on his paysite, an AVS site, and made a few hundred bucks a month this way.

This was before TGPs and many webmasters, like myself, fought to have photos removed from newsgroups, but it wasn't easy and still isn't. Oh yes, Usenet newsgroups are free. Some are moderated, where they purposely keep out the spam, trash and copyrighted photos. Others are free-for-alls, where you have to go through 4300000 spams before you get to a free photo. Viruses are rampant, too. An employee of mine downloaded a stripper screensaver he read about in the newsgroups and had to reformat.

So, **** makes money charging surfers to view what they could otherwise get for free if they simply used the right program (there are sites where you can access all the newsgroups at no cost).

They have an affiliate program, and any webmaster who promotes **** is scum in my eyes. Why? They are promoting and making money off copyrighted material they don't own.

If you think this isn't a big deal, let's say you spend $24,000 a year in content. Now, it's a given that some surfers will buy a membership and then take your pics and post them in the Usenet newsgroups. There are only 2 ways to minimize this -- watermark your photos, or disable right click, and anyone can disable that disabling!

Now, imagine you drop $24k and you find out someone is making money to charge people to look at your photos. How would YOU feel?

We also have people who have websites where they allow surfers to upload photos. While they have a TOS that says the user is responsible, that's bullshit, because legally, the site hosting the photos is responsible. It's up to the owner of the site to check every photo to be sure it's legal. If you have any doubt of this, check the recent ARREST of Chris Wilson in Florida, who was nailed for having more than 300 "pornographic" photos on his website, all reader contributed. BTW, his website is hosted overseas, yet he was still arrested.

Why do we allow people who knowingly host copyrighted photos, or knowingly make money from this, to be part of our community?

Dagwolf 02-20-2006 04:46 PM

I'd also like to know why. This reminds me of the ConsumptionJunction cat-burning drama... and how CJ the controversy rage for several days before suddenly feeling some moral doubt, removing the offending content and apologizing. :( I have a feeling we're being played.

The Duck 02-20-2006 04:46 PM

its a fucking outrage, GFY is spitting on legit program owners and anyone else that deal with content

karlm 02-20-2006 04:49 PM

I agree with all of the above. But ah well aint much we can do. I wander if many people will carry on with there ads when the term is up

RayBonga 02-20-2006 04:51 PM

Newsgroups aren't that bad:

Quote:

At this point, it is highly likely that Kirk Johnson is the "Goatse Man." Kirk Johnson is a regular poster to the newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.male.anal, among others, and a rather simple analysis confirms this; it is unlikely that there is another practitioner of anal stretching with the same mole on the upper-left edge of his anus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goatse
We probably would never had goatse if it wasn't for newsgroups, just my :2 cents:

seeric 02-20-2006 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah
its a fucking outrage, GFY is spitting on legit program owners and anyone else that deal with content

exclusive content is fucking expensive to produce. i spend a ton of my personal time looking for and getting our content removed from places. if i find my content in there it will get addressed. i encourage and would expect other exclusive content producers to do the same.

Manowar 02-20-2006 04:52 PM

money speaks volumes here :/

Forkbeard 02-20-2006 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
Everyone is bitching about GUBA and in my opinion rightfully.

But how could GFY allow them to advertise here and even skin the board is beyond me.

GUBA supports theft of content from sites owned by many of their other advertisers.

Not everyone is bitching; just the folks who agree with your last sentence. It's *not* objective fact, you know; it's an opinion, and a rather controversial one.

TheSenator 02-20-2006 04:56 PM

I am outraged by the outrage. - Senator James Inhofe

minusonebit 02-20-2006 04:57 PM

The skin really is miserable on dialup.

ThumbLord 02-20-2006 04:57 PM

yep money seems to be more important then ethics ( hope there are not much typo's in my silly remark )

SilentKnight 02-20-2006 04:58 PM

http://www.fetishopolis.com/kap-images/fansign7.jpg

GlydeGirl 02-20-2006 05:01 PM

It's all about the cash... it's ALWAYS about the cash!

Blizzard 02-20-2006 05:08 PM

That POS BradShaw said it best on JBM,

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw
Lens is all about $, I do not blame him at this point. Make what you can, while you still can. This train will not run forever.


ThumbLord 02-20-2006 05:12 PM

one word just to make it simple for the NOT so clever people around here:

M O N E Y !

Dagwolf 02-20-2006 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumbLord
one word just to make it simple for the NOT so clever people around here:

M O N E Y !

I believe that GFY will lose more money than it gains from this.

Scott McD 02-20-2006 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaskTVMaura
It's all about the cash... it's ALWAYS about the cash!

Bling Bling !!

Michael O 02-20-2006 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf
I believe that GFY will lose more money than it gains from this.

I hope so.

DamageX 02-20-2006 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

I'm really starting to like you. :thumbsup

Babagirls 02-20-2006 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit
The skin really is miserable on dialup.

ur on dialup?

Mr Pheer 02-20-2006 06:15 PM

Lensman likes the money and he knows you crybabies arent going to leave GFY, so why wouldnt he let them spend the money and skin the board?

Did you really have to even ask?

Ross 02-20-2006 06:18 PM

Fuck Guba.


It was a nice skin tho LOL

Dagwolf 02-20-2006 06:20 PM

:
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPheer
Lensman likes the money and he knows you crybabies arent going to leave GFY, so why wouldnt he let them spend the money and skin the board?

Did you really have to even ask?

Suppose I owned this board and knew exactly what would happen: That this campaign would generate ten times more negative response than positive. I think if I knew this and informed the client of the possibility, I could allow the campaign with a clear conscience.

... :2 cents:

PixeLs 02-20-2006 06:31 PM

Ok, looks like it's gone now..

BusterBunny 02-20-2006 06:35 PM

why cant we all just gubalong?

BV 02-20-2006 06:36 PM

http://www.bikinivoyeur.com/newlooter.jpg

Tempest 02-20-2006 06:40 PM

Oh please.. It's all about the money and nothing else.. Some paysites used to include newsgroup access from inside as well. If those same paysites decided that the cost/benifit ratio was high enough in their favour, they'd still do it.

Nicky 02-20-2006 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterBunny
why cant we all just gubalong?

:1orglaugh

HairToStay 02-20-2006 07:11 PM

To go one further, how many of you accept trades on your blogs and TGPs and whatever with sites that offer GUBA access?

I sure as hell don't, and have had to pull some awesome trades when I saw what they were offering. One asked me why, I explained, and they did some research on their own and dropped GUBA.

Sure, money is great, money is awesome, but self-respect is something, too. You promote GUBA and you're fucking every legitimate webmaster out there.

Keyzer, thanks for reposting that.

Rui 02-20-2006 07:27 PM

what a shame...this speaks volumes about lots of people around here (the way they react to this that is)

BV 02-20-2006 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui
what a shame...this speaks volumes about lots of people around here (the way they react to this that is)


yep
there are a few unwritten rules of this forum

1- don't ever post a video here of you abusing any cats
2- don't get caught steeling content
3- don't make fun and post pics of mentally handicapped people
4- don't call women hahahahas

reynold 02-20-2006 08:11 PM

it is always the scenario.
new skin, people will be pissed off.
somebody whores the threads, people are pissed off.
but in all these cases, GFY remained silent. they don't make big deal out of it.

pornstar2pac 02-20-2006 08:13 PM

Lensman, are we still on for golf this weekend?

Scootermuze 02-20-2006 08:23 PM

Nope.. it's not a good thing.. but I wonder how many in here that are raising Hell have Limewire or the like on their systems; downloading copyrighted music and/or mainstream movies.... Probably several....

graphicsbytia 02-21-2006 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
Lensman, are we still on for golf this weekend?

lol.. nice try :1orglaugh

I just looked for Lensman's last few posts, and there were none in the guba threads.

Post counts are higher than ever.. so ask yourself

1. Did Lensman know we'd hate this
2. Did Guba know we'd hate this
3. If we actually do hate this, why are we still here

I'd like to say more, but I do like coming here now and then.. :-)


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