Model wants OUT of the Business ! (Picture)
 

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Kimm (11:36 AM) :
Hey Dugmor
Dugmor! (11:36 AM) :
Hi
Kimm (11:36 AM) :
I was wondering if you had a minute to chat?
Kimm (11:36 AM) :
You know me
Kimm (11:36 AM) :
Mika
Kimm (11:37 AM) :
How are you?
Dugmor! (11:37 AM) :
Who is this ?
Kimm (11:37 AM) :
Mika
Kimm (11:37 AM) :
Years ago though
Dugmor! (11:37 AM) :
From where ?
Dugmor! (11:38 AM) :
Mika Maze ?
Kimm (11:38 AM) :
Yeah
Kimm (11:38 AM) :
Long time ago...
Kimm (11:38 AM) :
Do u have a minute or you have 35 dif convos going at the same time?
Dugmor! (11:39 AM) :
yes
Kimm (11:39 AM) :
My life is completely different now .... I"m a good girl
Kimm (11:40 AM) :
I left Rick a while back too
Dugmor! (11:40 AM) :
Really ? Why ?
Kimm (11:40 AM) :
Cuz he was an asshole
Kimm (11:40 AM) :
lonn story... very long
Dugmor! (11:40 AM) :
I thought you had a cam studio set up
Kimm (11:40 AM) :
no, that was him trying to look big
Kimm (11:41 AM) :
he had what? 2 girls for like 2 months?
Dugmor! (11:41 AM) :
Well it is a hard business !
Kimm (11:41 AM) :
Closed down with everything in it
Kimm (11:42 AM) :
Yeah LOL
Kimm (11:42 AM) :
Full up and it gets fuller every year
Kimm (11:42 AM) :
I cant beleive youre still growing!
Kimm (11:42 AM) :
I took a look around at a lot of your stuff...
Kimm (11:42 AM) :
You still enjoying it or...?
Dugmor! (11:42 AM) :
Always... it never stops... I am dedicated to my art !
Dugmor! (11:42 AM) :
I love it !
Kimm (11:43 AM) :
I'd like to talk to you human to human for a sec...
Dugmor! (11:44 AM) :
To be honest... I cannot remove your content
Dugmor! (11:44 AM) :
I will explain
Dugmor! (11:44 AM) :
I have affiliates that have dedicated a lot of time and work setting up the traffic to my sites.
Kimm (11:44 AM) :
I know
Dugmor! (11:44 AM) :
To remove any content... would damage mine and their business.
Kimm (11:44 AM) :
even if its been there for 5 years?
Kimm (11:45 AM) :
and has never changed?
Kimm (11:45 AM) :
Heres my thing....
Dugmor! (11:46 AM) :
Even more so... people worked very hard for 5 years... removing the content would kill everything they worked on ... for 5 years..... 5 years of hard work down the drain...
Kimm (11:46 AM) :
Rick was insulted that I would leave him....
Dugmor! (11:46 AM) :
I am not even going to go into my costs.... I am more worried about all my affilates.
Dugmor! (11:47 AM) :
I am not going tell any affiliates to remove any content.
Dugmor! (11:48 AM) :
I have to think of the business first... ... I already knew what you where going to ask...before you asked !
Kimm (11:49 AM) :
I know you did
Kimm (11:49 AM) :
You must live this quite often
Dugmor! (11:49 AM) :
Not really

YAY for model drama!

We all have it, part of doing biness as you know!

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Good response to that girl. Women falsely assume this business must be all fun and games, and getting paid for being content is something that can easily be undone.

I've had models request the same thing. I told them that pretty much no amount of money would make it worth while to the clients I have sold the content to.

Ridiculous. I'd like to understand the way their minds work.

Me, personally I would consider it..especially if the site has been around for 5 years and I've made my investment back.

However, these people need to really consider what they are doing when they decide to work in front of the camera knowing that this can and will come back to haunt you later on in life.

You can pull content all day long, but we all know the content is out there and will continue to live on forever.

great replies...

congratulations. you must be proud.

Great standing up behind affiliates. I'm not in your shoes, but this was the best decision you could make.

I can't help feeling sorry for the models...I guess its business but still kind of sad. We all know that they came in for their first shoots everyone was quick to get them to sign so they wouldn't change their minds.

I'm with eroswebmaster on this one

spoke like a true pro, almost too perfect to be true ;)

thread title "model drama picture" and picture = dick in her mouth...a little hostility?

i wish ALL sponsors and paysite owners had balls to respond like that :thumbsup

Time to put her first scene on thehun again! She was in the first batch of content I bought back in 01, she made me tons!

This is not like the only scene she has ever done !

She has done a lot of scenes.... Mika Mayze

My guess is since the Web Dreams documentary came out ... my sites have become a lot more popular !

it must suck big balls when you really realise pics of you sucking a cock is out there for everyone to see..

does she work for a Montreal Livecam company now??

Right on. Business is business.

Besides, she looks better with cock in her mouth anyways.

if you wanna get outta the business dont get in

Actually, getting out is not the problem, except for models.

They should think twice about doing something like this

Too bad for the model. Such is life.. Nothing is permanent. As the cliche goes, change is the only constant thing in life.

Well said on your part. :)

It IS the harsh reality of the business, however you must at least feel some compassion for these women. The critics of our industry always say that this business is at its nature exploitive - however it is just that "a business" AND "exploitive".

Im not posting an opinion one way or the other on your decision, in fact i tend to agree with you. However anyone with a conscious must at least weigh their decisions with a great deal of insight and personal reflection.

This to seems like a program owner posting pictures and an icq conversation showcasing a models personal transgressions, private regrets, and an impassioned plea via (what she thought was private) communications on a public webmaster board to curry favor with potential affiliates and in the process humiliate her even futher.

That imho is just in poor taste.

I do not just post pictures and conversations of girls that want to get OUT of the business.... I also post pictures and email/ ICQ conversations of girls that want to get INthe business !

This girl wants to get Gang Banged ( Pic )

Another Girls wants to get Gangbanged ! ( Pictures )

you forgot one

xlogger wants to get gangbanged

Dugmor, my post wasn't meant to be a slam - as i stated i tend to agree with you and btw I actively promote your program. However I do feel this particual post was in poor taste. Just my personal :2 cents: no harm - no foul. :upsidedow

i love it!!

btw, dugmore, please update your photo in yoru sig, that's an OLD one you age-cheating bastard!

I don't think his intentions were harmfull, just trying to get some good publicity. I personally think that is good publicity.

Exactly.... back in 2001 she wanted all the attention should could get ! She was shooting for everyone. She wanted to be a big porn star !

thats what I was talking about...the business of being an adult model

I know... I just wanted to say that I also make posts of girls that want to get in the business also ! :thumbsup

Well played Dugmour, Mika worked with us too, and cost us alot of money. She pulled a midnight move on us, with her site.

Indeed..cut the ties and move on

gotta love model drama..

Outch. I think i'd want to kill the girl

DAMN!!
I remember Mika
shit.. brings back memories of her

sux though.. she would only do her bf.. did lots of stuff
but only other girls
anytign with a guy.. was her bf

lost lots of contracts like that

but.. sti;ll.. was good times with her

Actually if she is not the main money maker for the site, and she is not widely promoted, then I would remove her. She is not that great looking anyway.

My life is completely different now .... I"m a good girl

Porn Is Forever!!!!!!!!!!!!

As if him removing her content is going to make any difference at all.. if it's been up for 5 years, there's sure to have been 5000 different people who took her pics, posted them in newsgroups, etc. That's the thing, these girls think it's as simple as asking the person who shot it to remove it, but that's hardly going to make a dint in the anthill, so to speak.

Good move, Dugmor. You remove that content and next thing you know you have 20 other "good girls" looking for favors and asking you to remove their content. If girls don't want to be seen, they shouldn't do it in the first place. I know it might seem like the hardline, but business is business.

I had that same Convo with juicy a few weeks ago ... I told him i can't take down any of the twink content we shot of him ... :Oh crap