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leggs 01-29-2006 07:52 AM

Which are the best cities to shoot in north america?
 
Apart of anything near L.A.

I'm trying to figure out good cities for filming in. Places were there is very little trouble to find talent.

I've considered Montreal but it looks like a nightmare because the few agents there want to keep the prices high and charge a percentage of what I pay the girls. (I have a philosphy of negotiating out privately with each girl.)

I looked at Toronto but the 1 bukakake I tried to film there was a disaster. 1 man showed up from the 50 promised. (I was aming for 10)

I was considering Chicago and Vancouver BC.
Any other places I should be looking into?

Moraxian 01-29-2006 08:21 AM

If you're looking to shoot BDSM (I'm assuming that from the photo in your sig) you should check out the Tampa Bay area of Florida. There are several major producers there, and lots of local ladies who you might be interested in working with.

Nubiles 01-29-2006 08:35 AM

Any place where there isnt a lot of other people shooting.

leggs 01-29-2006 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moraxian
If you're looking to shoot BDSM (I'm assuming that from the photo in your sig) you should check out the Tampa Bay area of Florida. There are several major producers there, and lots of local ladies who you might be interested in working with.

Actually I don't film that stuff at all. I'm a semi retired pornstar turned video producer. I did that photo in my sig with Ken Marcus. Personally I'm really not into BDSM and wouldn't be able to make a decent product.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunkspringbreakgirls
Any place where there isnt a lot of other people shooting.

LOL...
I'm sorry for laughing honey. I'm in an area just like that and that philosphy just doesn't work. Best to go to an area where there is already some sort of industry. And liberal sexual attitudes.

leggs 01-29-2006 09:48 PM

I guess I'll bump it again

PenetratinP 01-29-2006 10:20 PM

Miami / Ft. Lauderdale

latinasojourn 01-29-2006 10:30 PM

miami, especially if you are interested in latina/black chicks.

sf bay area, pricey, but good for intellectual type, goth types, lesbians.

and of course LA.

Spunky 01-29-2006 10:31 PM

Vancouver..definatly many hidden talents

MaLayLaH 01-29-2006 10:41 PM

I've found it best in the city I'm in, close to Toronto. Any place with lots of strip joints. Lots of women looking for money/independant deals. Goodluck.

Spider Ninja 01-29-2006 10:46 PM

nyc?

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d00t 01-29-2006 10:59 PM

i dont think theres any best place to shoot in north america. it's illegal in every state to shoot someone.... so perhaps try somewhere else

Spider Ninja 01-29-2006 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leggs
I guess I'll bump it again

bump bump

billywatson 01-29-2006 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leggs
I've considered Montreal but it looks like a nightmare because the few agents there want to keep the prices high and charge a percentage of what I pay the girls. (I have a philosphy of negotiating out privately with each girl.)

IMO a bad "philosphy". Sounds to me more like you're hustling them with "package deals" - but again, this is my opinion. I wouldn't really know.

I will say one thing - I was never much of a fan of agent fees, but now I'm all for them...when a model isn't cooperating, it's so much easier to just call her agent than to try and deal with it yourself. It doesn't happen much on my sets, but when it does, it's worth every penny to call an agent.

And if the agent is working his/her ass off to get the model work, then they deserve the 15% (or so) they get from the girl.

bringer 01-29-2006 11:25 PM

i wouldnt go to canada if i was you.

leggs 01-29-2006 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d00t
i dont think theres any best place to shoot in north america. it's illegal in every state to shoot someone.... so perhaps try somewhere else

I'm not trying to take a cheap shot at you....
But there is a saying...

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. And if you make your money in the jizz bizz. Well, even in the most tolerant and legal area you will still have to look over your shoulder for the cops.

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson
IMO a bad "philosphy". Sounds to me more like you're hustling them with "package deals" - but again, this is my opinion. I wouldn't really know.

I will say one thing - I was never much of a fan of agent fees, but now I'm all for them...when a model isn't cooperating, it's so much easier to just call her agent than to try and deal with it yourself. It doesn't happen much on my sets, but when it does, it's worth every penny to call an agent.

And if the agent is working his/her ass off to get the model work, then they deserve the 15% (or so) they get from the girl.



In Montreal they want to charge ME the 15% and I say FUCK THAT SHIT! They can go back to finding hahahaha for Redlight I don't play that game.

I pay an agent a FLAT fee.
He gets the same amount regardless of what negotiations I make with the girl.

Because you see, unless the percentage is charged to the talent. It's a conflict of interest. As a business woman I am looking to cut my costs at every available chance. So yes, I am trying to get the girl for as cheap as possible. It's damn hard to do that if the guy brining the girl stands to make more too.

And speaking as former pornstar. NO snatch or colon is worth some of the rates a few people try to charge.

But on that note, most of the time I don't negotiate. I say what I want, how it pays. And the girl can take it or leave it.

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Originally Posted by bringer
i wouldnt go to canada if i was you.

I go where the money is.
And that can be Canada, Mexico, Botswana, Mars, etc.

bringer 01-29-2006 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leggs
I go where the money is.
And that can be Canada, Mexico, Botswana, Mars, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by leggs
Kill Harper.
Simple and easy solution. Put a bullet in his brain. Because we know he doesn't have a heart.

I'm want to put up a paypal donate button.
Lets hire a hit man and just end this sick nightmare.

$3,500 is the quote I got to have this asshole rubbed out.
And that's $3,500 Canadian. A bargan if you ask me!

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=566429

expect some visitors at the airport

Alex 01-29-2006 11:45 PM

San Fernando Valley.
Porn Capital baby.

leggs 01-29-2006 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
San Fernando Valley.
Porn Capital baby.

Some place other than L.A.
I just can't handle the traffic!

But I have to admit...
Just like Huey Lewis said, "I LOVE L.A.!"

Expo_Vids 01-30-2006 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leggs
Some place other than L.A.
I just can't handle the traffic!

But I have to admit...
Just like Huey Lewis said, "I LOVE L.A.!"


Then just don't fucking drive. Live near your studio. Or do like I do and only drive in the mid-day or late night/early morning when traffic is light.

leggs 01-30-2006 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Expo_Vids
Then just don't fucking drive. Live near your studio. Or do like I do and only drive in the mid-day or late night/early morning when traffic is light.

Oh honey,

I always live in my studio. Can't see a reason to spend money on two places. For me I think I could go back to L.A. but it's like pulling teeth with da spouse. For him, his idea of paradise is places like Iceland or France in the winter. IE: Dark, depressive and must have "archetecture" and "character."

I would like to beat him with a baguette some days. But he earns about 70% of the household income doing his "indy-art-crap films." (Too many hours inputed if you ask me.)

SinisterStudios 01-30-2006 03:07 AM

We do well in the NY/NJ area, not a ton of good shooters and talent rates are cheaper on this coast. Problem is there are no agencys out here to book girls so you have to find them all yourself. If your ever in the area to shoot hit me up i have a large studio to rent

Doctor Dre 01-30-2006 03:10 AM

You want to find talent easily but you don't wanna go through agents ? it won'T be easier in one city then another.

You can always deal with agents... in mtl. You just gotta give them your business and guarantee them a couple of shots and they'll give you better deals.

MTL is cheaper then LA and lots of other places still

I recoommand you hit Daniel from eromodels in montreal... he's great. All of his girls have training in front of hte camera, they know how to look at it and act... they have good attitutdes and act very profetionally... he's more then just a normal agent ;)

leggs 01-30-2006 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SinisterStudios
We do well in the NY/NJ area, not a ton of good shooters and talent rates are cheaper on this coast. Problem is there are no agencys out here to book girls so you have to find them all yourself. If your ever in the area to shoot hit me up i have a large studio to rent

Well I used to run ads in the local newspapers. But you kind of have to be careful about what you say in it. Nude Figure modeling usually works and networking the men that want a shot porn is pretty good too. (Just tell them to bring you a girl)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
You want to find talent easily but you don't wanna go through agents ? it won'T be easier in one city then another.

You can always deal with agents... in mtl. You just gotta give them your business and guarantee them a couple of shots and they'll give you better deals.

MTL is cheaper then LA and lots of other places still

I recoommand you hit Daniel from eromodels in montreal... he's great. All of his girls have training in front of hte camera, they know how to look at it and act... they have good attitutdes and act very profetionally... he's more then just a normal agent ;)

Again, I have NO PROBLEM WITH AGENTS!
But I'm not paying a percentage fee or wait for girls to clear quarantine because I shoot condomless.

Just like South, Ben English, Spiegler, etc.
I give them their $100. And that's a flat rate regardless of what price I get the girl for.

So if I use one of their girls, I have no problems paying them.

Any percentage cuts they get should be from the girl. Not ME! Because if I got to deal with that crap I can just hope on a plane, go to Moscow, Philipeans, etc, etc, etc.

It would just be nice to settle down in one place and film. Not have to worry about airports, hotels, etc.

reynold 01-30-2006 05:08 AM

Try Vegas! :thumbsup

facialfreak 01-30-2006 01:15 PM

"Not waiting to clear quarantine" is just plain STUPID if you ask me ... :(

leggs 01-30-2006 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak
"Not waiting to clear quarantine" is just plain STUPID if you ask me ... :(

Well no one asked you.

But since you took the shot...

The Eliza test can take 90 days to show a positive. Do they lock the girl up that long?

And don't forget...

When the HIV broke out the last time in L.A. and the industry was on manditory shut down. Half the boys from Redlight District flew up to Montreal and continued filming. And you damn well know they didn't use condoms.

I'm sorry for being a bitch. But business is business.
And this business is the porn industry.

It is a sex industry and has tons of risks. (STDs, Law Enforcement, Pissed off boyfriends, etc)

So if you can't play with the big boys or stand the heat.
Then get out!

Because all you're doing is living off those that are willing to do the job.

Mutt 01-30-2006 02:08 PM

for hardcore - LA is the easiest because it has the largest talent pool - then South Florida and Montreal. And Phoenix seems to be growing as a hardcore porn production center. That's about it.

maja 01-30-2006 04:25 PM

if you're interested in vancouver check out my sig for some resources

Screaming 01-30-2006 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunkspringbreakgirls
Any place where there isnt a lot of other people shooting.

Seems pretty solid lol.

leggs 01-30-2006 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
for hardcore - LA is the easiest because it has the largest talent pool - then South Florida and Montreal. And Phoenix seems to be growing as a hardcore porn production center. That's about it.

I've heard a lot about Florida.
Is there a particular city? What are the average rates?

Fah King 01-30-2006 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leggs
Apart of anything near L.A.

I'm trying to figure out good cities for filming in. Places were there is very little trouble to find talent.

I've considered Montreal but it looks like a nightmare because the few agents there want to keep the prices high and charge a percentage of what I pay the girls. (I have a philosphy of negotiating out privately with each girl.)

I looked at Toronto but the 1 bukakake I tried to film there was a disaster. 1 man showed up from the 50 promised. (I was aming for 10)

I was considering Chicago and Vancouver BC.
Any other places I should be looking into?

Come to ontreal and Il show up for a bukake shoot ASAP! Or any other shoot on that matter :)

leggs 01-31-2006 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fah King
Come to Montreal and Il show up for a bukake shoot ASAP! Or any other shoot on that matter :)

I love Montreal... I truely do.
For 4 years I lived near the Préfontaine métro.

It's an AWSOME town for escorting. A girl never has to even place an ad and she can grab $200 to $300 an hour between 9am and Noon. Most other places you have to be running around with drunks at 3 am to get that.

But the last time I was in the city(1 Year ago)

The talent was niether abundant nor all that reasonable.
And when I have to produce, I shooting sometimes 2 gonzos every day for 2 or 3 months non stop.

My fear is if I manged to talk my husband into stepping foot on Canadian soil. I would run out of girls in a week.

And notabley I produce for some very specific weirdos. My titles include, "Road Side Piss Guzzlers," "Snorting Cum," and "Fist Fucking my daughter." (Not real incest)

I know I can get American girls willing to do some of this stuff.
But Montreal girls.... I don't think I can even get them to pee on camera.

Fah King 01-31-2006 12:36 AM

Heh If you need some girls in Montreal that would want to do some weird shit like that Hit me up on ICQ 312-676-020

Sebastian Sands 01-31-2006 12:54 AM

#1. Los angeles (porn valley. Van Nuys) Mostly DVD companies
#2. Miami (mostly web based companies)
#3. Las Vegas
#4. Phoenix (really growing in talent and producers)
#5. East Coast, New York (a lot of scammers there tho)

d00t 01-31-2006 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leggs
I'm not trying to take a cheap shot at you....
But there is a saying...

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. And if you make your money in the jizz bizz. Well, even in the most tolerant and legal area you will still have to look over your shoulder for the cops.

looks like you lost your sense of humor over new year :1orglaugh

say shoot to a police officer and they won't assume you mean PORN :upsidedow

leggs 01-31-2006 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d00t
looks like you lost your sense of humor over new year :1orglaugh

say shoot to a police officer and they won't assume you mean PORN :upsidedow

You know what...
You're probably right about the loss of my sense of humour. I have been dealing with the "wannabes" where I am for soooooo long that I am at last Jaded. (**Go figure survived 3 years of L.A. and never got taken down. But France...**)

Add to that our problems with Marie Trembley, another north american porngrapher, and I'm a pissy bitch!

vidvicious 01-31-2006 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leggs
I'm not trying to take a cheap shot at you....
But there is a saying...

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. And if you make your money in the jizz bizz. Well, even in the most tolerant and legal area you will still have to look over your shoulder for the cops.



In Montreal they want to charge ME the 15% and I say FUCK THAT SHIT! They can go back to finding hahahaha for Redlight I don't play that game.

I pay an agent a FLAT fee.
He gets the same amount regardless of what negotiations I make with the girl.

Because you see, unless the percentage is charged to the talent. It's a conflict of interest. As a business woman I am looking to cut my costs at every available chance. So yes, I am trying to get the girl for as cheap as possible. It's damn hard to do that if the guy brining the girl stands to make more too.

And speaking as former pornstar. NO snatch or colon is worth some of the rates a few people try to charge.

But on that note, most of the time I don't negotiate. I say what I want, how it pays. And the girl can take it or leave it.


I go where the money is.
And that can be Canada, Mexico, Botswana, Mars, etc.

THis is shocking coming from a women that was talent! ... You wanted the big bucks when you shot for Bangtour (a low paying gig by todays standards) Now you've got the directors hat on, and want to cheap out on the model and cut out the agent ...

That's right after our conversation a few weeks back, I took the liberty to find out more about you ... I did not appreciate your Condsending manner so I wanted to know whom i was dealing with .. your reputation procides you and now I see why

vidvicious 01-31-2006 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leggs
You know what...
You're probably right about the loss of my sense of humour. I have been dealing with the "wannabes" where I am for soooooo long that I am at last Jaded. (**Go figure survived 3 years of L.A. and never got taken down. But France...**)

Add to that our problems with Marie Trembley, another north american porngrapher, and I'm a pissy bitch!


Oddly enough I shot two feature adult prods in France and had not a single problem ... found the talent in france to be very Professional, Hot video followed all my sex capades for they're saturday night show ... HAd some great friends with the talent I shot with .. You've got some real gems there .. like Phil Holiday, P. St-james, Naomi, Tiffany hopkins, I fell in love with Estelle Desange an apsolutely wonderful person ....

Barefootsies 01-31-2006 09:29 AM

I do not know on the U.S. as a whole, but depending on what you are shooting, I would say find a college town.

I do not shoot hardcore, nor M/F, but we do mostly 'fetish' things. We have more than enough girls contacting us to keep us busy, and we can't even get them all in within a given month!

We do not do the newspaper though. Business partner used to use his connections at strip clubs and so on before I took over the recruiting. I find a lot of them from online networking groups, and word of mouth spread it from there. It was a rough go at the beginning, but after we picked up some decent one's, and they heard about the 'referral fee' then they started doing a lot of the recruiting themselves. Bringing us more girls so we did not have to be as active is promoting, or recruiting.

Now it's on auto-pilot. I get plenty who contact me weekly, and am at the point we can turn away those just looking for money, and do not have an image that will sell, or not 100% down with what we do.

If you are in a college town, if you know what you are doing, and how to recruit, you will have more than enough hunnies contacting you all the time.

As for agents, and such. I do not deal with them. I have had them contact me any number of times, and people who want to be the middle man, or whatever. We stick to the business model, no matter how hot the girl is. This is what we do, and what we pay. Period. If they don't like it, keep steppin.

We have budgets, and we are not going to blow them for some girl who's marginally better looking dealing with agents, and fees. Fuck that!

:rasta

EdgeXXX 01-31-2006 09:33 AM

Go for Manhattan :2 cents:


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