The future of New Orleans (my prediction)
 

Real Estate developers are salivating at the opportunities that will be coming from this hurricane...

All of the slums have been destroyed and you know damn well that they won't rebuild them. They'll move all of the slum residents to a new slum on the outskirts. Then all of that property will be rebuilt for the more affluent housing tenants.

New Orleans will probably be safe once again once it is rebuilt...I just know that property will go CHEAP during the rebuilding process. It's a good time for people looking to relocate.

The ultimate gentrification.

They might not rebuild, if they do, your scenario will come true.

T-Minus 10 minutes before someone blames bush for the hurricane.

BVF, I respect your posts and this one is so right on it's scary.

We're about to see the beginning of the end of how our society has done business. Looting and violence has broken out. Cop got shot, soon they'll be shooting people in the streets.

When the blood gets into the water, look out.

Martial Law in effect and you're right. The poor people will be moved so far from the city it'll be like Green Acres.

Real estate won't go sky high but the insurance will kill any poor people from buying a home.

Good observation.

I can imagine people wandering around the SuperDome with wads of cash offering to buy whats left of peoples homes - a thousand bucks a piece.

Seriously, it wouldnt shock me.

Bush did it! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Acts of god and real estate is always a good mix ... it kills the value for ... 2-10 years ... and then ... you make the loot ;)

If just ONE, just ONE more heavy rain or God forbid hurricane hits that area before the next 2 months you can call that city gone.

Since raining is common there, you can bet the shit has only begun.

New building codes and a new levy. Throw in some more pumps and a backup system and all would be safe.

where's the next Super Bowl?

Why the fuck did those dumb french fucks build a god damn city under sea level to begin with...they should just scrap the whole fucking thing and move it 10 miles north.

Got to think long and hard about what you're saying. We're talking 3 states worth of nuclear style destruction.

I think it will be much easier just to resettle people in better geographic areas as harsh as that sounds. The most ridiculous thing I heard today was that Mayor saying schools will be open again in 8 weeks. What the heck is he smoking? This is like a meteor strike event. It will take a year just to get the cleanup and disinfection done and maybe longer. It will take at least a year to get all the power lines, phone lines, and water lines back in shape and maybe longer.

Now where in the heck is all the debris going? You're not talking about WTC sized debris. We're talking entire metropolitan areas and regions. And this isn't lightweight material. You've got huge trees, houses, automobiles, trucks, boats, entire concrete buildings, sharp glass shreds, toxic chemicals, dead people, dead animals. Imagine the manpower needed to move all this crap. And agin to where?

Then you've got to rebuild the business infrastructure completely. You're going to have a big problem at this point because a lot of people are going to say screw this place and move out of the region during the reconstruction and probably won't want to risk coming back.

Next you've got a financial disaster problem. Imagine the investment capital needed to rebuild and restock all the businesses and companies. Are corporations going to want to even come back to this area again?

Then you've got the housing problem in the interim for all the people needed to rebuild. Where are all the workers going to live? Winter is coming up soon also.

I can't see these cities being brought back to life anytime soon. Its easier to just write it off and give all the impacted families the money directly to relocate and start over somewhere else that is functioning.

I was allready thinking about investing, but felt bad at the same time for it. :(

so do you think that since all the property is destroyed that it is automatically up for sale?

last time i checked the Homestead Act was in the late 1800's. you can't just claim land any more. if this has changed, please let me know. thanks.

very good post

I agree with everything you posted to a T, however you left out the poor, the poor will not be relocated, IN fact I see them stayiong put, they'll ruin entire region if tnhey move in, IE parts of Ft> lauderdale continue to depreciate because the minority and impoverished are continually granted Section 8 housing.

I beleive the poor will be the ones who will put up wth the smell, they're the ones taht will work the cleanup shifts, they don't own cars, some don't work, what the fuck are they going to want to move for? THey'll be just fine there. Have you seen what ghettos look like? I worked on a habit for humanity type project once. We cleaned an entire neighborhood, washed their homes, then repainted them and helped build fences and a huge communal pool. The kid taht set this up won some crazy scholarship. It was great, 2 years later I drove by, 2 years... it looks worse then ever, it's all fucked up adn it look slike they burned half the houses down....

Why? Because they don't care.

BVF and KRL are right on target.

I know shit is bad when I'm watching the news and seeing white people looting.

The storm surge hit 25 feet high and went a mile in. Mississippi says hundreds may be dead, they just haven't looked yet.

I'm telling you guys, the economic and social structure of Earth as we know it has changed. Within 48 hours if riots and mass murder don't break out, it's a sign of hope for mankind.

This is going to be the deciding point of how we all do business with one another forever.

What's even scarier is the NOAA says the bulk of hurricanes for this year are yet to come.

I don't think it can hold on with another one. :(

The south will rise again.

Southerners are a whole other breed of people, and they won't leave their home. Keep in mind that this is a place where uncountable numbers have lived in the swamps for generations.

I only hope that people pull together the way they did after the tsunamis.

Now... Where will we get our public flashing content? I'm guessing Mardi Gras won't be a hot ticket next year

The poor will be relocated FIRST....All the govt has to do is declare their homes unhabitable and they have to go. They'll build some cheap slums for them out in the swamp and the MONIED people will be the ones moving in.

This is the only opportunity they'll ever have to get all of the underclass people out of the city and revamp the tax base of new orleans.

With the broken dikes, the poor will be forced to relocate or drown. If the city floods to a depth of 6 to 10 feet deep and the pumps are submerged, I think federal laws will kick in. Under federal laws, I don't believe you can rebuild within the 100 year flood plain which will clearly include most of the city. Just food for thought.

I dont know that the ecoonomy in NO can sustain the higher costs of building nicer places.

If New Orleans is to be rebuilt (and I hope it will be), the plan should include importing a billion metric tons of soil to raise it above sea level.

With global warming and the resulting melting of the polar ice, ocean levels will rise, and make low lying areas face greater risk.

No sense rebuilding to have it all destroyed again.

sorry.


lootings and shootings have begun.


mankind is fucked.

BVF, you are right on the money again!

Governor ordered the entire city evacuated. I think what they're going to do is set up tents and trailers way out in the outback somewhere.

Paul Waters, the city would literally have to be scoured to add that much soil support. Too many buildings of historical value to do that. The ONLY thing they can do is what Japan did to protect themselves and that's build huge ass dykes. Problem is it would obscure the view I guess. 30ft high would be the way. Surrounding the entire city would be an engineering task for the ACOE ( Army Corps of Engineers ).

This disaster changes the face of how we are going to live on this planet.

The Tsunami was a primary example. It hit poor people and poor real estate. Mostly poor people died. Just like Hurricane Mitch killed almost 20,000 a few years back but nobody cared cause they were poor. That's the importance of what BVF is saying. Nobody is going to care if a bunch of poor black people get moved from their homes.

The drug trade is going to get it's ass kicked because of this storm. But you know what? I'll bet dope will get the high priority of rerouting and surveillance protection long before the people get aid.

BVF, I'm glad you stood up and spoke your piece. This disaster is about getting real and reality says if you're poor and black you're fucked.

Case in point, just watch the news. The other day they showed a little white girl who rode out the storm on a shrimp boat. People from all over the planet wrote into the the tv station to find out how she was doing. Today they showed a premature black baby girl who is on oxygen and heart monitor but no electricity so it's on batteries. She may not last another 24 hours. I'll betcha' nobody writes in or starts a campaign to see how she does.

Very interesting thread so far.

I'd buy all the land I could but the hell if I would build on it in the next few years. They need to and will develop a better system for protecting the city in the future. Once that is underway then you can start builiding like mad.

New Orleans 2007

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naw. don't. unless you are katrina!! :1orglaugh

More like this...

New Orleans 2006.
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Too late - see other thread (i'm too lazy to find it myself). Something about global warming, the Kyoto Accord and his vacation causing this.

I shouldn't have laughed...but i did. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :helpme

the army corps of engineers should do to new orleans what they did to make lake lanier. Flood new orleans completely get rid of levies. Name it Lake New Orleans and build new orleans outside that as well as lake side resorts.

Why the hell would the rich people invest in a dangerous hell hole?? They invest hundrends of millions of dollars to see it underwater a few years later??? Not worth it to invest in such a place. :2 cents:

4 months ago The army corp of engineers said the levee had to be reinforced . They werent given the money because we are burning it up in Iraq

Right on Tony404!

Not only that, but Louisiana's National Guard are mostly in Iraq. Can you imagine being 10,000 miles away defending people you don't know over a bullshit claim and your family is back home fighting for their lives because the money and resources that should have gone to them ended up in some dimwit foreign policy campaign?

Sucks with a capitol UCKS.

some of the videos on cnn.com are some of the saddest things i have ever seen. I mean footage of a man losing his wife. Is that really necessary?

Your prediction on the rebuilding of NO is good. I just wish the US government would really take care of those hurricane victims as they survive this year.

Last year I lived 5 miles North of Homestead, FL - ground zero for Andrew. It is very built up again - even more than before the Hurricane. People are resilient. Some leave, many more new ones come.

They better use tons of concrete and steel this time.... :)

The building codes are pretty good but let's face it - every few generations a South Florida or Gulf coast city is going to get wiped out. We'll be back. Like an ant hill after you wipe them out with some Ortho Ant Killer.