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Darren 06-03-2005 12:05 AM

MensNiche tests Vimax Extender & Size Genetics (STATS)
 
Alright guys, as you know we like to stay on top of things and make sure we are the best converters. So I decided to do a test of some of our competitors a couple months ago to verify just that. Vimax was brought up in another thread with a question of conversions. So I decided to post my test results for them and us. Keep in mind that they were saying "We convert" when this test was done.

First of all, here's the page we used to promote SizeGenetics and test it's conversions.

http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devices1.php

Here was a screenshot from the 5 days I sent traffic.

http://www.200sexpositions.com/sizescreenshot.JPG

Now, here's the page I used to promote Vimax. check it out, I kept the text basically the same so I could get the most accurate figures.

http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devices-vimax.php

Now, here's the screenshot from the days I sent traffic

http://www.200sexpositions.com/vimaxscreenshot.JPG

These campaigns followed eachother, so there wasn't a big difference in the dates, ALL TRAFFIC was google adwords, off of the same campaign, with the same bid price and same keywords.

I know there is a huge difference between these, but NOTHING changed between the campaigns. These are simply the numbers that the test produced.

Any questions?

*** Also, prosolutionpills converted poorly because I ONLY used "device", "extender", and "stretcher" based keywords to push this site. In case you were wondering :)

reynold 06-03-2005 01:08 AM

Another paid infoads...

Rui 06-03-2005 01:10 AM

Those Vimax results aren't normal...

sixxxthsense 06-03-2005 01:12 AM

nice spammmm

swedguy 06-03-2005 01:18 AM

Don't they usually say that a good and honest product will sell itself without the need of slamming competition?

Steve G 06-03-2005 01:28 AM

Why am i not surprised to see this thread?

:)

SomeCreep 06-03-2005 03:40 AM

I cant get vimax extender to convert worth shit.

I told "JupZChris" about an apparent error they seem to have on their pages which does not give webmasters credit for phone sales, fax orders, or snail mail.

Basically, when you click through your referral link, and then click on fax order, for example, the box that says "promotional code:" should have your referral ID. Instead it says "N/A".

Chris said he would look into it. That was around 4 - 5 months ago.

Can anyone from oainternet/pillsmoney address this issue?

exitmoney 06-03-2005 06:44 AM

hahahah nice try looser .
I guess is hard to see every single day that your webmasters leave to other programs... And not knowing how to improve your sites and conversions the only remaining solution is to make fake bashing on your competition :)

cannot stand how pathetic that could be from somebody claiming to run a biz as you do :1orglaugh Next will be what, cry to your mother and she will start posting here as well that her son is not making good sales :1orglaugh

alias 06-03-2005 07:23 AM

dick stretchers with built in razors, elite..

FastSize is the O.G. nigz! Mn is aight, but jup z vimax is hurting!

warez 06-03-2005 08:41 AM

good stats

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FilthyRob 06-03-2005 08:43 AM

Is it time to replace my volume pills ad?

DrPhibes 06-03-2005 08:56 AM

And what about Penis-Health.com does it convert well too?. Do online penis enlargement manuals still sell?. I was thinking of buying some traffic for this.

Thanks!

Darren 06-03-2005 08:58 AM

See it for what you will, it was an actual test that we did and these are the exact results, gives you some idea of google traffic.

And I am sure VIMAX can confirm the stats from our account...

Chris 06-03-2005 08:59 AM

Hmm kinda odd - the last time you " tested " us you used the same type of page but you didnt post the stats public. I looked at where yous ent traffic from and the " final words " you used where something along the lines of "dont even bother they are a joke "
are you sure you didnt bait and switch after testing?????

Darren 06-03-2005 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JupZChris
Hmm kinda odd - the last time you " tested " us you used the same type of page but you didnt post the stats public. I looked at where yous ent traffic from and the " final words " you used where something along the lines of "dont even bother they are a joke "
are you sure you didnt bait and switch after testing?????

bait and switch? same test.

Chris 06-03-2005 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren
bait and switch? same test.

Darren are you sure?
I just took a look at your stats


you sent traffic from THOSE sites.... take a look at those sites....you telling me that is the same site you SAID you tested us with?

I got screenshots of everything incase you try to switch out the site.

Chris 06-03-2005 09:29 AM

How does
Quote:

Short product review & detail of any bonuses.

The VimaxExtender leaves just a few things to be desired. The main ones? Quality and results. If you want to gain some size, this is definitely not the device for you. Strangely it's more expensive than the others. Guess they figure if it's expensive, you'll think it's worth more. Nice Try!

Our Final Word: So, so


compare to


Quote:

Short product review & detail of any bonuses.

Vimax was one of the first on the web with the traction device. This is the highest quality device available. Along with a fantastic device, they offer prompt and helpful customer service. Best of all, we have seen the absolute best results from clients of Vimax. We're not ones to argue with the evidence, this stretcher guarantees them!

Our Final Word: Get it, you won't be disappointed


The first one is the sites you sent traffic from .. the second quote is what you claim to of send traffic from ....

exitmoney 06-03-2005 09:35 AM

Darren,

You are just a looser my friend. It shows desperation and I am not sure your program will attract any webmaster if anything whoever still promotes you nowdays is an moron to deal with such a childish company/individuals and put their money in your hands and hope for the best from you .....

You should not have bothered make any test you should just fake your own stats and put there 1million in comissions. Why bother with sending traffic to any other program , worry how to fake the pages/traffic so it does not convert, etc. Is a lot of work for a little brain like yours. Just fake your stats outright and make even 2 sales per 1 raw click, I am sure if people beleive the stats you posted about oainternet, they will beleive that shit as welll :1orglaugh

Anyways grow some balls and work on your sites to improve your conversions for your webmasters not put shit on any of your competition. That shows too much desperation my friend, is life really that hard for you nowdays....

Darren 06-03-2005 09:40 AM

No switching going on, the test was not finished today but as the stats show in january.

Our sites convert just fine, we put our ratios on show www.mensniche.com/topten.php do you? NO.

Chris 06-03-2005 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren
No switching going on, the test was not finished today but as the stats show in january.

Our sites convert just fine, we put our ratios on show www.mensniche.com/topten.php do you? NO.

Darren you did not answer anything in my post

How come the site you posted that you claimed to send traffic to us from is not the same as stats are showing???????

Darren 06-03-2005 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JupZChris
Darren you did not answer anything in my post

How come the site you posted that you claimed to send traffic to us from is not the same as stats are showing???????

Jupz is it states in the first post:

1.) The top position text stayed the same (apart from name of the product) and the campaign run was exactly the same. So during one test SG was top with description, then during test with Vimax, Vimax was top with exact same description as SG.

So now we obviously have SG back at the top because it converted.

exitmoney 06-03-2005 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren
Jupz is it states in the first post:

1.) The top position text stayed the same (apart from name of the product) and the campaign run was exactly the same. So during one test SG was top with description, then during test with Vimax, Vimax was top with exact same description as SG.

So now we obviously have SG back at the top because it converted.


You got caught in your bullshit and you still don't give up :
read again Chris's post, the traffic received from the server logs was from:
http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devic...02322&p=2&sb=1 . On that page Vimax extender is still down the page and bashed. So you should have changed your page , there is something call "logs" that give you away. I can't beleive how stupid somebody could be :)

Rui 06-03-2005 10:04 AM

oh oh...

lopez 06-03-2005 10:34 AM

your product is a rippoff of fastsize anyhow, and you dont see them run around crying for some competition.

Steve G 06-03-2005 11:01 AM

Matter of fact is:
WE ARE THE HIGHEST PAYING. $200 PER SALE FOLKS :))
We are launching a new extender site shortly that will blow away the competition. I see why are getting desperate :))

Steve G 06-03-2005 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopez
your product is a rippoff of fastsize anyhow, and you dont see them run around crying for some competition.

Go away idiot

Alex 06-03-2005 11:04 AM

This is sad and pathetic. You fucked up once when you got that Our competitors are shaving thread backfired, why try again?

chowda 06-03-2005 11:08 AM

ill promote any of ur companies if u guys help me with the creative for adwords :)

Darren 06-03-2005 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitmoney
You got caught in your bullshit and you still don't give up :
read again Chris's post, the traffic received from the server logs was from:
http://www.malepenisadvice.com/devic...02322&p=2&sb=1 . On that page Vimax extender is still down the page and bashed. So you should have changed your page , there is something call "logs" that give you away. I can't beleive how stupid somebody could be :)

Congratulations, indeed the logs are CORRECT, the traffic does come from that page, we just changed the positions during the tests... u work it out yet? :winkwink:

BradM 06-03-2005 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chowda
ill promote any of ur companies if u guys help me with the creative for adwords :)

Dude, best friends get priority. Come on now.

Theo 06-03-2005 11:20 AM

hmmmmm

mixed thoughts for this thread.Personally even if I did such test, I wouldn't post it.

Steve G 06-03-2005 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren
Congratulations, indeed the logs are CORRECT, the traffic does come from that page, we just changed the positions during the tests... u work it out yet? :winkwink:

anybody to take that test for real is an idiot.
You put SIZEGENETICS as #1
and Vimax as a company with a bad product. Surfers should be complete morons to buy our product and not yours.

Darren 06-03-2005 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve G
anybody to take that test for real is an idiot.
You put SIZEGENETICS as #1
and Vimax as a company with a bad product. Surfers should be complete morons to buy our product and not yours.

Read the thread, Vimax was number one for set period of time with good description, then same description was used and SizeGenetics was no1.

Do the test urself :)

RuthB 06-03-2005 11:28 AM

Wow.. controversy and drama in the penis enlargement world.. who'da thunk it!

I've worked with (done biz with/promoted) most of these folks and I can tell you that Mensniche is a rock-on program, they're CONSTANTLY trying to provide the best support and resources for their webmasters. I'm sure this test was just part of it, though to do a complete ACTUAL comparison surely you'd have to have MN at #1 for one, and Vimax at #1 for another, then it's a true test (maybe that's what you did, not sure)

*Edit - according to Darren's post immediately above me, that's what they did!

OAInternet offers GREAT webmaster referrals (15%) which I believe is the highest in the industry (though I could be wrong, pls don't quote me on that :winkwink: ) They don't convert too badly, depends on how much (and quality) of traffic you're sending them.

Fastsize was one of the first with the Extender.. Andromedical was actually the first, but they didn't market it to webmasters, they marketed to the penis programs. Fastsize brought the Extender to the attention of TONS of webmasters and I'd say they're the dominant reason so many penis programs have adopted the device. (And I just love BradM :wetkiss :winkwink: )

Now stop playing around and come promote Magna-Rx penis pills with WEGCash ... :winkwink: LOL :pimp - WE CONVERT!!!

chowda 06-03-2005 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM
Dude, best friends get priority. Come on now.

lol, i didnt bother checking what exactly was size genetics. lol

let me run some keyword checks

Steve G 06-03-2005 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEGRuth


Fastsize was one of the first with the Extender.. Andromedical was actually the first, but they didn't market it to webmasters, they marketed to the penis programs. Fastsize brought the Extender to the attention of TONS of webmasters and I'd say they're the dominant reason so many penis programs have adopted the device. (And I just love BradM :wetkiss :winkwink: )

Wrong. Andro Medical was the 2nd since Jes was the 1st

Steve G 06-03-2005 11:38 AM

I am thinking we should do a test as well and post results :))

RuthB 06-03-2005 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve G
Wrong. Andro Medical was the 2nd since Jes was the 1st

I stand corrected.. thanks! :thumbsup

Yknow.. you guys should all hook up with an unbiased 3rd party to have a test done that can then ACTUALLY be FAIR and therefore referred to without accusations.

Just a thought.

tranza 06-03-2005 11:53 AM

Damn, that's not ethical at all!!

brand0n 06-03-2005 11:58 AM

did i mention that fastsize converts?


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