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Snake Doctor 02-17-2005 04:09 AM

Ipasak.com (nichecontentguru) is a fucking crook (DRAMA ALERT)
 
Let me start by saying that I've been in this business since 2000 and only one time before have I gone to the boards and called someone a crook. (And I was right that time as well as this one)

Martin (aka ipasak.com aka nichecontentguru) ripped us off something fierce.

He comes to the boards and shows a picture of a blonde busty model available for work.
She fits the niche I need perfectly, but his photography is pathetic so I ask if I can send one of my photographers to shoot her and he'll get a referral fee for finding the model.
He says that was fine.

Now the drama....
He tells my photographer that this model will do boy/girl, and girl/girl work...no problem.
He DOESN'T tell us that she's never done girl/girl before, and has no idea how to.

After my photographer books his rooms, buys tickets to travel to where the girl is (for him AND for the model he brought along to do the girl/girl scene) Martin decides that he needs $600(euro) for us to be able to shoot the model.
(I guess he needed so much because he couldn't rip the model off since we were paying her directly at the shoot)

Anyone in this business knows that the standard model referral fee is $100(US).....but we were fucked either way and he knew it.
So we paid the $600 and the girl shows up for the shoot and its the most fucking pathetic shoot ever.
The only content I'll be able to use is the stills.....she wouldn't even kiss the other girl in the GG video, and stood about 4 feet away from her while rubbing lotion on her boobs. (And THAT was the hottest part of the video)

So not only does he decide to charge 8 TIMES the standard model referral fee, he sends us a model that he obviously didn't "cast" or "test shoot" to see if she had what it took to do porn.
Of course all of our requests for a full or partial refund of the referral fee have been ignored. (If someone sold you a shitty product you'd ask for your money back as well)

So basically if you do business with this guy he'll either A) shoot you some really shitty content himself, take the money and not pay the model....or B) Charge you a ridiculous fee for you to shoot the model yourself and send you a model that can't do any porn acting.

</rant>

Manowar 02-17-2005 04:56 AM

Bump so more people can read this.

Serious-Partner 02-17-2005 04:57 AM

oh man that's disgusting

mrthumbs 02-17-2005 05:03 AM

I see you put the blame of some issues on the model where they should be on the photographers part..

But great to see you guys let your models run the shoot!

MaDalton 02-17-2005 05:05 AM

ok, I'm not a drama queen too - those are my 2 cents:

- he wanted 100% of the money the girl got for softcore shooting as a commission. when we said, normally the girl gets more than that on a day and the agency 20% of it, he told us we can do so, but then he will take away money from the girl as well. and it was 600 euro, which is about $800 at the moment.

- we asked if the girl does g/g and b/g - he said yes, but "forgot" to tell us that she never did that before. it was as pathetic as Lenny said. and i was the first time really ashamed of what we delievered.

- of course I lose money with this job cause I cannot force a customer to pay for shit - so i asked for a refund several times.

his comment (translated from german): "don't cry like a baby, otherwise i will ignore your emails in the future. The porn business is tough and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Plus I have a partner who would be angry with me if i'd pay you the money back now."

I don't blame the girl - she's just a simple slovakian girl who got sent by her pimp. We paid her, cause it was not very generous anyways what Martin had conceded her. But I think it's not wrong of us to ask for a refund of a part of $780 for just giving us a telephone number (which we had to pay upfront before we ever saw the girl in person btw).

So decide yourself if you want to do some business with Mr. Masar.

Thank you.

ffmihai 02-17-2005 05:15 AM

sorry to hear you lost money but its your fault also. you should have asked all the questions before you go investing money, as you sound like you are a pro. so as a pro you should have taken all the measures. so id say part of this its your fault also.

MaDalton 02-17-2005 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs
I see you put the blame of some issues on the model where they should be on the photographers part..

But great to see you guys let your models run the shoot!

i don't think that you can force someone to be an excellent performer when she has to do something which she has never done before and even doesn't want to do.
we had a second girl there that never did g/g before - but she was at least willing to do it and would have been good with someone else.

and when i have a correct information from the agency where i book the girl i can tell my customer: "i don't know if it will work out - are you willing to pay even if it fails"

MaDalton 02-17-2005 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffmihai
sorry to hear you lost money but its your fault also. you should have asked all the questions before you go investing money, as you sound like you are a pro. so as a pro you should have taken all the measures. so id say part of this its your fault also.


read again...

ffmihai 02-17-2005 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton
read again...

i red all from the start. you did not ask: has she some background, some experience in gg action? did you? if you hire someone should you not ask such questions?

digifan 02-17-2005 05:26 AM

It deserves a bump.

MaDalton 02-17-2005 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffmihai
i red all from the start. you did not ask: has she some background, some experience in gg action? did you? if you hire someone should you not ask such questions?

ok, to clarify that: we booked her for g/g and and b/g and asked before if she can do that. the answer was yes without any limitations. It was just said that for b/g she would prefer a guy she likes - so we sent a pic of the guy upfront. It was ok.

Praguer 02-17-2005 05:44 AM

Man, that really, really sucks. Totally unprofessional

sonofsam 02-17-2005 05:49 AM

i wired money to martin directly through my bank..... 700 to his account... and he could have EASILY scammed me... and i couldn't do shit about it... but he didn't.... and i'm new to GFY so if i were to make a bunch of accusations... noone would take it seriously... he could have easily took off with my money...

but he didn't and he really helped me out by giving me such a great deal with the camera.. and also threw in extra stuff that wasn't even part of the deal.... on top of that.. he taught me a bunch of stuff i needed to know about photography... showed me the ropes if you will..

either way... martin is a great guy.... and i agree with the other person that you never asked him if the girl had experience with G/G

MaDalton 02-17-2005 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
i wired money to martin directly through my bank..... 700 to his account... and he could have EASILY scammed me... and i couldn't do shit about it... but he didn't.... and i'm new to GFY so if i were to make a bunch of accusations... noone would take it seriously... he could have easily took off with my money...

but he didn't and he really helped me out by giving me such a great deal with the camera.. and also threw in extra stuff that wasn't even part of the deal.... on top of that.. he taught me a bunch of stuff i needed to know about photography... showed me the ropes if you will..

either way... martin is a great guy.... and i agree with the other person that you never asked him if the girl had experience with G/G


and you just admitted here and in another thread that you are a newbie. so thank you for your contribution. :thumbsup

but this here isn't about selling cameras. :error

sonofsam 02-17-2005 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton
and you just admitted here and in another thread that you are a newbie. so thank you for your contribution. :thumbsup

but this here isn't about selling cameras. :error

oh no... YOU BUSTED ME.... not...

i'm vouching that he is not a scammer.

nichecontentguru 02-17-2005 06:07 AM

Here is the model, I shot her on 3 afternoons already, maybe you guys cannot handle a model to pose for you the way you wish? Plus you asked if she will do G/G or B/G, so I told you she will and she did. You did not ask if she has experience, as many webmasters noticed correctly in this thread. Furthermore you saw her naked photos upront, so you knew what you were paying for. On top of it, many people want to see how a girl gets fucked for the first time in front a camera, some people pay a premium for that to find such a girl :2 cents: :2 cents:

http://www.ipasak.com/banners/big_br...o%20m%2053.jpg
http://www.ipasak.com/banners/big_br...e%20m%2013.jpg
http://www.ipasak.com/banners/big_br...e%20m%2043.jpg

Snake Doctor 02-17-2005 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nichecontentguru
Here is the model, I shot her on 3 afternoons already, maybe you guys cannot handle a model to pose for you the way you wish? Plus you asked if she will do G/G or B/G, so I told you she will and she did. You did not ask if she has experience, as many webmasters noticed correctly in this thread. Furthermore you saw her naked photos upront, so you knew what you were paying for. On top of it, many people want to see how a girl gets fucked for the first time in front a camera, some people pay a premium for that to find such a girl :2 cents: :2 cents:

http://www.ipasak.com/banners/big_br...o%20m%2053.jpg
http://www.ipasak.com/banners/big_br...e%20m%2013.jpg
http://www.ipasak.com/banners/big_br...e%20m%2043.jpg

Photos like these are the reason I wouldn't let you shoot the content for me.

Anytime you get a model from an agency, the agency has auditioned the model before they send her on a shoot because their reputation depends on being able to deliver quality models to the people who produce content.

You obviously didn't do this and didn't (and still don't) care that we got ripped off.

So like I said....you can think we were wrong or think we were right but based on the way you handled this matter people can judge for themselves whether or not they should do business with you.

nichecontentguru 02-17-2005 06:38 AM

Let us ask the audience, maybe some people will be reading this thread. How much would any sponsor pay to you for a B/G video with an abovementioned model. The caveat is that supposedly she was not interested in fucking so much and was just there, however the guy saved the porn movie a properly fucked her. How much would such a reality movie be worth? Maybe you guys should start a different thread on it :2 cents: :2 cents:

flashfreak 02-17-2005 07:08 AM

I smell high drama level

sig placement

nichecontentguru 02-17-2005 07:14 AM

Not so much drama, among our customers are clients like Nader from NichePay who have advertized and supported GFY, please clicke on the link before:


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=430519


And here is one more interesting thread:


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=433013 :thumbsup

Pete-KT 02-17-2005 07:19 AM

DRAMA ALERT, im gonna go make popcorn who wants some?

NoCarrier 02-17-2005 08:12 AM

This thread needs a bump so that everyone knows what kind of scammer Martin is..

:thumbsup

pradaboy 02-17-2005 08:18 AM

bump... that nichecontent guy is a joke :disgust

justsexxx 02-17-2005 08:21 AM

That's the reason I never buy there. His photoshoots are really bad, and so are his business tactics(heard this before a few times). Good thing we never dealt with him.

Mikey_219Inc 02-17-2005 08:24 AM

youre both amateurs ... agent you should have said its her first time, photog, you shouldve realized in the first 10 minutes the girl was going to do a shitty scene and sent everyone home and asked for your money back from agent.

:2 cents:

MaDalton 02-17-2005 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey_219Inc
youre both amateurs ... agent you should have said its her first time, photog, you shouldve realized in the first 10 minutes the girl was going to do a shitty scene and sent everyone home and asked for your money back from agent.

:2 cents:

i asked for my money back - he refuses. he says it's my problem.

:2 cents:

Mikey_219Inc 02-17-2005 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton
i asked for my money back - he refuses. he says it's my problem.

:2 cents:

did you film the whole scene or stop the shoot once you realized the model could not perform? if he wanted more business and/or a good reputation he should at least do a partial refund for not telling you it was her first g/g (jesus are people really in this business to make 800 bucks? thats some short sighted shit)

next time you start filming and the girls dont know what the hell they are doing send them home and tell them their agent is an idiot :2 cents:

consider it an expensive lesson - ive paid 'em too.

nichecontentguru 02-17-2005 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey_219Inc
did you film the whole scene or stop the shoot once you realized the model could not perform? if he wanted more business and/or a good reputation he should at least do a partial refund for not telling you it was her first g/g (jesus are people really in this business to make 800 bucks? thats some short sighted shit)

next time you start filming and the girls dont know what the hell they are doing send them home and tell them their agent is an idiot :2 cents:

consider it an expensive lesson - ive paid 'em too.

dude, they were shooting her 3 full days, 7 sets of stills, several sets of softcore videos, G/G video and a B/G video, check out this thread and now they want their money back. They must be crazy. If they had sent her home right away, of course we would have paid the agent's fee back:


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=433013



For 3 full days, both softcore and hardcore, there is no way, this model is not worth EUR 1,400:



http://www.ipasak.com/banners/we/mar...e%20m%2021.jpg

http://www.ipasak.com/banners/we/mar...e%20m%2027.jpg

http://www.ipasak.com/banners/we/mar...o%20m%2025.jpg

Mikey_219Inc 02-17-2005 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nichecontentguru
dude, they were shooting her 3 full days, 7 sets of stills, several sets of softcore videos, G/G video and a B/G video, check out this thread and now they want their money back. They must be crazy. If they had sent her home right away, of course we would have paid the agent's fee back ...

hmm if this is true (kept shooting for 3 days) i would tend to agree the agent keeps the fee. i'm now officially retiring from the drama! viel gluck :winkwink:

MaDalton 02-17-2005 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nichecontentguru

For 3 full days, both softcore and hardcore, there is no way, this model is not worth EUR 1,400:

and i officially retire from trying to explain something to you.

we wanted to pay more to the model, less to you. because a telephone number is not worth $780. you said if we do so you take away money from the model. and you demanded the money upfront - now i know why.

you didn't give us all information and you made false accusations in your emails. hell, you didn't even remember things you wrote us before and i had to send you your own emails.

but if it's that what makes you happy - go on. karma is a bitch.

but let me quote your business attitude again:

Quote:

"don't cry like a baby, otherwise i will ignore your emails in the future. The porn business is tough and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Plus I have a partner who would be angry with me if i'd pay you the money back now."
now everyone can decide by himself whether to do business with you or not.

thank you.

NoCarrier 02-17-2005 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nichecontentguru
For 3 full days, both softcore and hardcore, there is no way, this model is not worth EUR 1,400:

http://www.porn-sex-list.com/crack.jpg

Snake Doctor 02-17-2005 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nichecontentguru

For 3 full days, both softcore and hardcore, there is no way, this model is not worth EUR 1,400:

Its not a matter of whether or not the model was worth it. Its a matter of whether or not you deserve to get $800 for a referral fee when the industry standard is only $100. (And then refuse to even TRY to make amends to us when the model wasn't up to snuff)
And if you don't get your price you take the money from the model.

The point of this thread was never about getting money back....you can keep the $800, I made that today from the time I started this thread until now. Only low life fucks like you have to steal money from starving models or rake people over the coals to make money in a hurry instead of building long term business relationships that would be much more profitable in the long run.
The point of the thread was to point out to people in this business what a low life you are. If I would have paid you to shoot the content you probably would have charged me $1000 and then kept it all and not paid the model.

BTW I noticed you removed the pics of the girl....good move, you take horrible photos.

Snake Doctor 02-17-2005 12:46 PM

Again I'll point out that this isn't about the money so much as your attitude.

When we complained to you, you could have handled it several different ways.
You could have at least shown empathy.....hey wow I'm sorry that happened man, how about I give you some free pic sets or vids from my store to try and make up for it?"
"How about next time you need a model I'll waive my fee to try and make this up to you?"

Instead you decided to say this
"don't cry like a baby, otherwise i will ignore your emails in the future. The porn business is tough and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

So obviously you'll never see another red cent of the considerable amount of money I spend on content, and hopefully all of the lurkers reading this thread will avoid you as well.

nichecontentguru 02-17-2005 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2
Again I'll point out that this isn't about the money so much as your attitude.

When we complained to you, you could have handled it several different ways.
You could have at least shown empathy.....hey wow I'm sorry that happened man, how about I give you some free pic sets or vids from my store to try and make up for it?"
"How about next time you need a model I'll waive my fee to try and make this up to you?"

Instead you decided to say this
"don't cry like a baby, otherwise i will ignore your emails in the future. The porn business is tough and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

So obviously you'll never see another red cent of the considerable amount of money I spend on content, and hopefully all of the lurkers reading this thread will avoid you as well.

1. I did not take down the photos. We are with webair and the server crashed for the first time that we have been with them, their IT is looking at it

2. I did offer to Stefan and also to Patrick that you could guys can book any of our models for free next time. I also offered that you can shoot Michelle again 2-3 times and we do not want a cent if you guys were not happy.

3. Now you are playinng innocent here on GFY. But how about telling people that employees of Stefan and Patrick tried to ask Michele if they can call her directly for future shoots without our agency involvment. So, basically you were trying to screw us and now you want us to return you the money. About 200 webmasters bought from www.ipasak.com in the last 12 months and our store is not gonna get shaken by your post here. Yes, we do sell amateur to semiprofessional photo and video sets, however our prices per set are very often not higher than US$ 10 :2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents: Pluse we try to live off escort business

4. Stefan is crying like a little baby, not you. He wrote us 1000 emails. That guy has nothing do to or what? He neved made in his life EUR600? Or he thinks that it would be fair that we pay you back EUR 600 and then the whole 3-day shoot of the model including B/G hardcore video, 7 still sets and several softcore video costs you EUR 800. You guys must be fucking kidding. Also, you do not seriuosly expect us to work for US$ 100 booking fee. Why did you pay then? Stefan suggested that we keep EUR 300. So, we are all wasting our time here about EUR 275 (after paypal fees), which we should return to you and than you guys are happy or what? Both of you have nothing to do than to argue about EUR 275 for 3 weeks 5 hours a day? You guys are not gonna stay around in the business if you do not focus more on what you should be doing. Again, please remember that I offered to help, but Stefan and Patrick did not feel like accepting it and now you are coming all over me. We are business men here and always ready to make concessions to try please our clients, but your clients should not be stabbing us in our back by trying to hire away our models :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

MaDalton 02-17-2005 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nichecontentguru
1. I did not take down the photos. We are with webair and the server crashed for the first time that we have been with them, their IT is looking at it

2. I did offer to Stefan and also to Patrick that you could guys can book any of our models for free next time. I also offered that you can shoot Michelle again 2-3 times and we do not want a cent if you guys were not happy.

3. Now you are playinng innocent here on GFY. But how about telling people that employees of Stefan and Patrick tried to ask Michele if they can call her directly for future shoots without our agency involvment. So, basically you were trying to screw us and now you want us to return you the money. About 200 webmasters bought from www.ipasak.com in the last 12 months and our store is not gonna get shaken by your post here. Yes, we do sell amateur to semiprofessional photo and video sets, however our prices per set are very often not higher than US$ 10 :2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents: Pluse we try to live off escort business

4. Stefan is crying like a little baby, not you. He wrote us 1000 emails. That guy has nothing do to or what? He neved made in his life EUR600? Or he thinks that it would be fair that we pay you back EUR 600 and then the whole 3-day shoot of the model including B/G hardcore video, 7 still sets and several softcore video costs you EUR 800. You guys must be fucking kidding. Also, you do not seriuosly expect us to work for US$ 100 booking fee. Why did you pay then? Stefan suggested that we keep EUR 300. So, we are all wasting our time here about EUR 275 (after paypal fees), which we should return to you and than you guys are happy or what? Both of you have nothing to do than to argue about EUR 275 for 3 weeks 5 hours a day? You guys are not gonna stay around in the business if you do not focus more on what you should be doing. Again, please remember that I offered to help, but Stefan and Patrick did not feel like accepting it and now you are coming all over me. We are business men here and always ready to make concessions to try please our clients, but your clients should not be stabbing us in our back by trying to hire away our models :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY



man, that's so pathetic - i don't get it.

first: it's true - you offered me to book models for free. i went through your models and none of them looked in a way that i can use them. LISTEN: I CAN'T USE THEM!

second: this is something i explain to you now for the 5th or 6th time: you gave us the telephone number of that girl to find out when and where she arrives (isn't that your job?). So why the fuck should we ask her - we had it already!!! and you can ask every agency i ever worked with that we never tricked them. On the other hand: they don't charge 100% of the model fee as a commission as you do.
And to prove again you are lying about that: she contacted us later to give us her new phone number. seems as if she doesn't want to have anything to do with you too.

and third: it's about business ethics - and not the money. you can shove the money up your ass - i hope you choke on it.
and about what we wanted to pay to the model and what you told us to pay to you instead read above.

thank you




btw: its even more pathetic to contact customers to bump threads about you when they are once in a while positive. :1orglaugh

MaDalton 02-17-2005 01:51 PM

and one more thing for the public:

do a search on GFY about me and about Ipasak, Martin Masar, Nichecontentguru or whatever he calls himself (isn't your original nick banned?).

then decide.

thank you.

over and out.

nichecontentguru 02-17-2005 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton
man, that's so pathetic - i don't get it.

first: it's true - you offered me to book models for free. i went through your models and none of them looked in a way that i can use them. LISTEN: I CAN'T USE THEM!

second: this is something i explain to you now for the 5th or 6th time: you gave us the telephone number of that girl to find out when and where she arrives (isn't that your job?). So why the fuck should we ask her - we had it already!!! and you can ask every agency i ever worked with that we never tricked them. On the other hand: they don't charge 100% of the model fee as a commission as you do.
And to prove again you are lying about that: she contacted us later to give us her new phone number. seems as if she doesn't want to have anything to do with you too.

and third: it's about business ethics - and not the money. you can shove the money up your ass - i hope you choke on it.
and about what we wanted to pay to the model and what you told us to pay to you instead read above.

thank you




btw: its even more pathetic to contact customers to bump threads about you when they are once in a while positive. :1orglaugh

Do not forget that you did not book with a professional agency, but with an online content store. For us, your business was an extra risk, in particular given the fact that we have known Michelle and her family for the last 15 years (yes I kind of grew up with her). And you volunarily agreed to the fees that we have offered you. This thread is finished for me, not worth to argue over EUR 275 anymore, let me get back to more productive work :2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:

nichecontentguru 02-17-2005 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2
Again I'll point out that this isn't about the money so much as your attitude.

When we complained to you, you could have handled it several different ways.
You could have at least shown empathy.....hey wow I'm sorry that happened man, how about I give you some free pic sets or vids from my store to try and make up for it?"
"How about next time you need a model I'll waive my fee to try and make this up to you?"

Instead you decided to say this
"don't cry like a baby, otherwise i will ignore your emails in the future. The porn business is tough and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

So obviously you'll never see another red cent of the considerable amount of money I spend on content, and hopefully all of the lurkers reading this thread will avoid you as well.

Please read the above post, you will see that we offered to Stefan and Patrick to help. He is now pushing it to prove that we were lying, whatever, but he me up on ICQ and we will do our best to help with free future bookings as you suggested or with free content :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

MaDalton 02-17-2005 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nichecontentguru
Do not forget that you did not book with a professional agency, but with an online content store. For us, your business was an extra risk, in particular given the fact that we have known Michelle and her family for the last 15 years (yes I kind of grew up with her). And you volunarily agreed to the fees that we have offered you. This thread is finished for me, not worth to argue over EUR 275 anymore, let me get back to more productive work :2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:


so you are pimping out girls you grew up with? funny. and i hope your escort agency is doing fine since you are not a professional (not difficult to guess that btw). and i agreed to pay for something that was promised. but i didn't get it.

now don't worry about Lenny - we took care of that. and i took it as a lesson.

nichecontentguru 02-17-2005 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton
so you are pimping out girls you grew up with? funny. and i hope your escort agency is doing fine since you are not a professional (not difficult to guess that btw). and i agreed to pay for something that was promised. but i didn't get it.

now don't worry about Lenny - we took care of that. and i took it as a lesson.

here we go, a blow below the belt. Good luck to you too :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup


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