CDShmuck vs [Lab Rat] -- The lowdown
 

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That pretty much sums it up.

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Phil are you going to challenge Redshoe and Equinox?

Actually, I've seen a few posts from Rat that are surprisingly helpful to others, and this in spite of the fact that he's gone out of his way to dis everyone that "flocks to these webmaster bbs's like sheep". He's really quite knowledgeable about quite a few aspects of webmastering and things such has fitness and exercise.

Rat, you've got a heart under all that dumbass, no question. It's just that for some reason unbeknownst to me, possibly your dad didn't kick your ass enough as a child or perhaps you had a strong mommy that whooped your ass too much, I don't know, but you just don't have a clue how important respect is to being a man. You have no respect for anyone, and that's your burden in life. Feel sorry for me all you want, I'm not even 40 and I'm retired from working a J_O_B forever, and I enjoy life, period. I don't sense much joy in your life in spite of any successes you may have going, and that is a shame, something to truly be pitied.

There's hope yet for you Rat, I'm sure we could learn a lot from each other, no question. But unfortunately the thing holding you back from making good solid business connections and reliable friendships with honest guys like me is your own attitude and how you treat others. Hey, I too can be rather heavy-handed when I'm sensing ignorance or stupidity in others, I'll be the first to admit that, but you take it to a new level altogether.

Time to maybe shut up and think about it bro. The one big advantage for you with having your business online is anonymity, but when that goes I hazard a guess that things will go downhill for you quickly...unless of course you wise up and start acting like a human.

Stop judging people in that condescending "everyone can fuck off" attitude you have, get over your past shit (mommy, daddy etc) and you'll soon start earning some real respect. Your choice mate, but right now I'm pretty sure you're nothing but the big joke you think everyone else here is.

Now, why not be unpredictable for once in your life and say something productive?
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I'd rather not http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif

You better not !

CD's translation of the letter posted above:

Dear Slim, I wrote you but you still ain't callin'
I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn
You must not have got 'em
It probably was a problem at the post office or somethin'

LOL...just messin CD

Trust me, he's read this or he will eventually. Rat loves me, he can't stay away from me, he can't stand to let me have the last word on anything, he's like a bitchy old housematron that way.

But I could care less if he answers or not. The truth is the truth, acknowledged or not.
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You call it a burden, I call it a blessing. You are right, I have no respect for anyone. Esp some newbie on a message board spouting off horseshit. The same goes for "real life". Respect is earned, not given away.



Seriously? What do I have to be sad about? Im young, debt free, make more money than I should in smut, an education, and freakishly hot girlfriend. Some days I wake up and cant believe the situation I am in.

Just because I hate people doesn't mean I am not an otherwise happy individual. The only way I could possibly be any happier is if I was given a license to go out in public and execute hippies, fratboys, and women.




Well thank you, I strive for success in everything I do. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

I believe in another post you said if anyone ever found out what sites I run that it would be business suicide, and now you say I need connections. In the 4 years I have been doing this I can name all the people I have done close business with on one hand. If there is one thing you do not do in this business is make these stupid fucking alliances / partnership you see all these fucking idiots doing constantly. They always end in failure.

My sites are completely self sufficient and require no help from anyone else. I generate my own traffic, my own feeder sites, I have a producer doing my content, and I run all my paysites. I rely on nobody.

You know why you will never know what sites I run? Because I have found a successful business model, something you board congregating mongoloids search for on a daily basis. The absolute last thing I am going to do is let a large group of tgp kiddies get a piece. You people have no innovation and all you do is copy others models. One person comes up with one good idea and the rest of you run it into the fucking dirt. Just look at the current state of the industry. You people deserve no respect, you deserve the opposite.



Wrong, I do business with nobody on this board. Probably never will. What could anyone on this board possibly have to offer me? I dont need your shitty traffic, and I dont need any galleries made.

The sooner you tgp kiddies get the hint that you will make no money and have to go back to your day jobs the better off everyone will be.



I dont want or need anyone from GFY's respect. You have severely mistaken me for someone who gives a shit.



Again, and this is getting very redundant, let it sink in this time...

I do not care what anyone on this board thinks of me. I seriously dont know how to emphasize this enough to you. The opinions on the board regarding me and or 90% of the topics discussed here are a fucking joke.

Its a bunch of newbs stroking each others cocks, measuring their success by what tgp they got their fucking gallery listed on and counter stats. Its mind numbing. You people have no fucking clue.

Looks like you cared to enough to write a novel in comments back to CD...so I would say your contradicting yourself..not mention you keep showing up time and time again..and posting to boot..so I would say there is some need to feel accepted going on here.. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif

Dear Whiny Little Bitch,

I dont know how many words a minute you can type, but that took about 3 minutes out of my day.

Fade Fade Fade, always sticking his nose in. If anyone is looking for acceptance, it is you.

Me and CD have a love hate relationship, I always take time out of my hectic day of drinking and masturbating to reply to him, as he always does the same for me.

As for showing up time and time again, I will admit this tardfest has a tendency to grow on you. Netponds crowd is too old and cranky, YNOT is for geriatrics and goody goodies, AWI is GFY with more foreigners, Oprano just sucks...

And despite what CD thinks, I do like some people on here. Amp is always good for making me laugh at 3 am, Gary is classic, Ludedude and R3K are quite personalble. Not that they remotely care what I think, but I do derive some enjoyment from GFY. Whether it be berating a stupid newbie, making a Canadian cry, or watching some stupid newbie scandal unravel... maybe I am a masochist.

Also, this took me about a minute and a half to type, so dont think I wasted more time on you than is absolutely necessary.

How is your mom?

Okay, point taken on your "self-sufficient" business model. I learned more about you in this one single post than all the others combined. Appreciated.

Rat spake thusly: Respect is earned, not given away.

That's exactly what I said to you in the first place. Seeing as how you are now indicating that you understand this concept, I will assume that I am right that there is some small hope yet for you. I wasn't talking about respect between you and everyone on this board because I agree with you that there are a lot of folks here that I could really care less whether or not they respect me or anyone. My comments represented myself only.

You then saideth: Seriously? What do I have to be sad about?

Again, my comments weren't so much to do with all the blessings in your life as they were an observance on your overall demeanor towards others, especially your peers (webmasters, like myself). Your lifestyle may be elevated beyond the norm, but the pissy attitude speaks volumes about how happy one is on the inside. This is not unlike the supermodel who, although has the looks, money and fame, is always sneering down her nose at others with her arrogance and hatred, thinking she is superior to everyone. "Inner dry-rot of the soul" as it were (no pun towards soul_rubble).

As for your comments on alliances and partnerships, I think you missed my point, but not entirely. Partnerships such as partnering up on a website and dividing the profits for example is something I've never had any interest in doing. Why start a partnership site when I can design and run 50 of my own sites? So we're in agreement as far as being master of your own domain, but I firmly believe that networking and building good relationships with others can be quite lucrative and rewarding.

As for your business model being secret, that is fine too, but know this: I too have a business model, one that has gotten me free of my former job of 15 years of slaving away at a local hospital, to a life of working on my own time on my own terms from home, and all this in the face of having an extremely painful back injury in 97 and starting off with no computer knowledge of any kind. This is no less deserving of respect than any of your accomplishments, indeed.

My business model is just as, if not more, diverse than yours from the sounds of it. I do my own photography, produce my own modelling content, I have a fairly sizeable buyer in Europe that pays me a nice sum of money on a monthly basis for it, I also do freelance work for a local movie producer such as referring talent and site design/promotion. I own rental property here in Winnipeg that pays me ongoing monthy revenues. Then there is all the sites I've designed for other businesses and local bands/singers etc, plus graphic design services to other webmasters, and let's not forget my non-adult sites. This is only the beginning of where I find my income from, and it is highly amusing to me to hear such uninformed remarks from you where you are declaring your superiority over me in so may aspects. Btw, running a tgp and/or building-submitting galleries is something I enjoy doing for some extra traffic and cash only. I'm growing tired of trying to open your mind up to the fact that not everyone here reads like a book, but I'm certainly used to being underestimated, no surprise there.

And, where you and others keep chirping that tgp traffic is so crappy, I'm looking at my overall stats for November and I see that I'm 1:270 with that traffic, and I've had a very good month income-wise from it. Again, you may be spot-on in your opinions of many webmasters, but I rarely fit into such generalities.

You have severely mistaken me for someone who gives a shit.

Hardly. I chuckle at your remark, and I can assure you I knew exactly what you'd come back here and say before I wrote my comments. But there's a difference between not caring what others think and interacting with others with respect. A big difference. Eg. I could care less what any given webmaster here thinks of me, but I treat most of them with respect. I at the very least give what I get, good or bad.

At least I can thank you for putting your usual punkification aside and speaking frankly and from the heart (I knew you had one). I agree with much of what you said here and on other threads, surprising as that may be. What irks me though is when someone makes bold statements about me that are born out of ignorance and not based in fact and insight. Such statements tend to be aimed at tearing down rather than being constructive, and I rarely tolerate such ignorance. My responses are not so much to sway your opinion as they are to prevent others from buying into a foolish notion that I am anything but what I am.

Having said all that, I'd like to add that it seems like you have a fairly tight operation going Rat. I wonder, what business strategies are you thinking of using for "future damage control".... ie - should the state of the internet become incondusive to running adult pay sites, what will you have to fall back on? Possibly the friendships based on respect that I mentioned earlier could be of great benefit in that area? I just find that everywhere on the net that I explore reveals ways of making money and generating ongoing revenue, and networking with other reliable people can't be all that repulsive a concept for you... can it?
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Damn, you guys are gerbil-stuffing again? http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif

ARMAGEDDON!!!

that's it guys, J. Bezos wants both of you to write a Christmas book for kids that amazon.com is going to sell the upcoming days! You're doing great, we need about 5 times more of what you have already written. Speed up! I'm reffering to you CD since Labret needs 1min/page to type, so he won't need more than 10min to finish his part. Labret will write the words of the evil witch and CD will handle the good heroe of the story. Damn, it will be a lovely book! http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

sometimes people look soooooo different, but in reality they have a lot in common.

Well, I've always seen a lot in common between CD and Labret although neither one of them will ever admit to it.

Both of them are some of the obviously better educated members of this board and i always find amusement in their comments.

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but not the way 12clicks would say it LOL

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I do not regard people on GFY as my peers.

As for my demeanor towards others, I dont like people. Or at least 98% of people. People are largely cattle, their herd mentality governing their way thru life one blind step at a time. They are not to be trusted, nor respected, and in general I can do without them. I do not go out of my way to murder them in the manner that I would like to, but instead 99% of the time I simply ignore them.



You are way off base. I live a very modest existence. I have a very modest house, a 25k car, and 90% of what I make is invested and or saved. I am completely debt free, no mortgage, no car payment, nothing. I have 1 credit card. By 2003 I hope to clear my first 7 figures. I guess I could be like the average GFY'er and blow my money on useless shit like an 80k car and other assorted useless bullshit, but I am not big on the penis extensions.



Know this. A vast majority of the shit I give you is just that, shit. My goal is to see how mad I can make you with one liners. You take me too serious. I know you probably work harder than the average ass monkies that pollute this board. You only assume I have no respect for you.




I basically answered this one in previous comments. I save and save and work each day in this business like the end is coming tomorrow. I do not expect porn to pan out forever, if it does... great. If it does not, I am prepared. Like I said, I have no debt and I own everything I have in its entirety. I invest, and despite my schedule I am returning to school in the winter to complete my second bachelors degree, and begin work on another masters. I also have a record label that I finance along with two other Canadian individuals. I hope to one day live entirely off money made from the label, but as long as porn makes me easy money I will stick with it.

All of this is born out of fear. Fear of a 9 to 5 job. Fear of working for someone else. Fear is my most motivating factor.

There, now you know a little too much about me.

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in which area is gonna be your next bachelor degree?

Anthropology and sociology.

I study people. Ironic given the fact that I detest them, anthro and soc are mostly to blame for this hatred. The more I learn, the more I hate.

hehe.

I'm going back next to uni next year. I have a science degree majoring in genetics, with a minor in philosophy. There was a course called cyber phil I took back in 1996 that gave me some of the initial ideas for starting an adult paysite http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

This thread is way to friendly.

FUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUALLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!

There, that's better. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif



Shocking news!! I was referring to the "webmaster< - - >Webmasters" connection only, nothing more. Not all here are newbs, not all here are unsuccessful, and some of us do know what the fuck we are doing with regard to generating good incomes.



More shocking news. My heart! Old guy dying here!! For the record I've stated this to "the herd" here before about you, probably on more than one occassion, that much of what you say is designed to raise temperatures and nothing more.



Well, insulting my country and my country's war vets, and firing numerous blatent yet empty platitudes towards me was one indication, but if you say so I have no reason to disbeleive you.
Where's my hug?



That is exactly why diversity rules in "all things that are CD" pertaining to business. Much of my income get's socked away each year in long-term high-yeild investments plus a few RSP's for good measure. I wish I had've started doing this 15 years ago, but sadly while working for others I could never afford to invest. My online business has done that for me, hopefully not "too little too late". So far so good at any rate.



I'll let you know when it's too much information. I'm glad I got this thread started, if anything it shows that the big bad rat can be and is a human on some level. And again, for the record, in many ways I too hate people in general, I've said it in so many ways. It is people that litter up nice parks, it is people that fight and argue over stupid useless things, there are no "trailer trash" in the animal world, only humans are capeable of damaging the private property of others maliciously, only humans judge each other while ignoring their own shitty backyards etc etc etc. Stupidity abounds everywhere I look, and it's all human. Some of them are even cops.

Wrong, I've stated this in other postings to rat. I too can get in the face of stupidity, but I'm simply not so obnoxious about it and my jibes and barbs aren't so out to lunch and off-base as many of his are. If he's bullshitting that's one thing, but when you paint whole groups of people with such broad strokes like he does and leave no way to tell whether he's sincere or not, one can only assume that he was issued a larger dose of dumbass than usual.
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Labret is the shit!

All the rest of you losers are Labret wannabes who don't dick! http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif

should be don't know dick. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

Drum, if you're gonna shove your whole head up his ass, shouldn't you at least give him some tongue?

I'm not kissing his ass. You, Labret, and I all know that Labret, like anyone else here, aint gonna do a damn thing for me. So there's no point in kissing any ass here. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

Just work that tongue like you mean bidness

Nope, not if you take the time to read what he writes, which you have obviously done.

And I ain't sticking my tongue anywhere LOL

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Oh my, this thread needs to be locked.

Its going to turn into a 12 Step Meeting at this pace.

The first step is admitting you have a problem...

I think that step 6 is to get on your knees and blow everyone that you've offended. Get busy rat, better buy a case o chapstick.

Suckaaaa

That will be the fucking day.

The day I build a gallery.

The day I ask why my traffic converts at 1:100000.

What freehost is the bestest?

How come my iBill stats suck?

What is Boneprone and how can I join?


in short, I will fucking die before I ever apologize to any of these jerrys kids.

Is that your final answer?

What? No galleries in your pay sites? Ya, I'll be joining right soon.

Or you pay someone else to do it for you. You lazy shit.

Isnt it past your bed time grampy?

Labret is a punk, an asshole, a fiery fairy, and a slapnuts, but you know what, he is himself. He isnt 15 characters, Nor does he bow to the powers that be. he also is a fucking smart worker who looks at things from an angle some of you will ever see.

He may need Work on his networking but he doesn't see that as importance right now, so i say let him be. He does what he deams neccesary, and i think that is to be respected even if some of his opinions do not.

my 6 1/2 cents

<--- unlikely to be R3k compliant

Slapnuts, yes. But this is between me and Rat. You're entitled to your opinion of course, but then so is Gary's goat. (haven't we named it yet?)

I was up befor 5 am today you young whipper-snipper. You'll have to push yourself to keep up. Don't be a weenie.

Ok im sorry i thought that the reply button was fr people to expess thier opinion on a thread.. it is noted, for now on ill start a new thread to state my opinions. or better yet keep them to myself which is something you might try one day.

and i say to myself, what a wonderful world!

DIE!