hehe. uppercut.

the day some of you will understand what people show on boards is far from reality or far from being important will be a great day.

Do you REALLY think that ALL the people making the most money in this business come here to talk and chat with everyone?

Off course, you'll see some regulars that come here to have some fun... but they won't blow all their ideas away.

I don't know labret... never had any discussion with him, never had an prob with him...

In fact, I only started to remmember who he was the day he had his assistant post some pics of her hehe... now, that is some nice piece of skin http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif


but seriously, you don't NEED to be open to everyone. Labret probably run his biz better than 95% of the people on this board... he probably needs no one like he said (why would he invent shit? no point) and he probably only has a close circle of people knowing what he does, because if everyone would know, then it would be out by everyone and their mothers within a few days.

and within that close circle, they all probably share good information and tips and all that most people would like to get their hands on... but this is how this business works.

Takes an idea and a concept to be profitable nowadays... need to Stick out... Can't stick out if you're part of the crowd http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif


I really believe having no respect for him, or anyone, because he doesn't think like you, doesn't care what anyone says, or does not show his biz to you is ridiculous.

Got the upmost respect for labret after what I just read..

you're actually doing exactly what I wish to do labret...

I mean, making money... keeping it... debt free, and going to school to learn.


my ultimate plan would be to make enough to be able to run my biz in free time while most of my time would be left to read, instruct myself, and learn...

all that while I still can enjoy my life ..

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Originally posted by [Labret]:
I do not regard people on GFY as my peers.

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And I supposed you were never new to this..huh!
You just went right out & started making websites & money without ever posting to some board! you knew it all & were a success from the beginning..It was a gift you were born with..You just magically figured it all out by yourself!!
It's Ok for the head goose but not the rest of the flock, right!!
How did you ever learn everything you know about being an adult webmaster without ever being a newb?
You're probably some snot nosed mommas boy loaded with cash from inheritance who bought his way to the top without a drop of sweat..
What, did you hire companies to do ALL the work, & you just collect the $$$..

Well, that won't work for most of us..We'd rather learn & do it ourselves.

A BIG GO FUCK YOURSELF!!

Some people do use GFY as a tool to LEARN..something you seem to not understand, because apparently you have no room for growth.

And not all the posts are about stats, counts, tgps, whatever..some people do have quite a few legit & valid questions/points/etc..

Not all webmasters on this board are newbs..
And if they were, so fucking what!!
If it werent for those newbs, who'd sign up under your webmaster referals asshole!

this thread is getting dangerously funny.

I never visited boards until some guy I used to trade with told me to look at something on there..


not everyone did start when there was 230987103780 boards around ya know http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif

Labret just doesn't tolerate what he see as bullshit his tolerances for stupid people is very low. I'm still not sure what the real deal is with him on one hand he seems allot smarter than most ,but then some of his comments seems pure ignorance or maybe he is just bored and likes to poke things with a stick at least he never dull. theres my 2 cents

Bake

I never post on message boards. Waste of time.

You are abosolutely correct. I NEVER used message boards. I started this bullshit for some spare change in college back in 97. The only board I am aware of back then was YNOT, until Netpond sprang up.

Message boards are entirely counter productive. I understand why you hang out on them, its not like your making any money and doing anything else. Make your gallery and submit it. Whats that? 15 minutes out of your day? You'll go far.




A newb in 97 is entirely different that a newb now. But I dont expect you to understand that. These days you have people to hold your hand and tell you every single thing you need to do to make a dollar. They give you free content, free hosting, and all the tutorials in the fucking world. Its no wonder none of you jerkoffs make any money.

There was no such thing in 97.



Shit, the fact that your on this board whining proves you can do nothing on your own.

I came from a very poor background. I worked my way thru college and racked up student loans to the tune of 80k dollars. I have spent 18 hours a day, 7 days a week for the last 4 years working on my sites and figuring out how to squeeze every penny I can out of a surfer. Some of the most successful people I know in this industry came from very poor backgrounds. We tend to value a dollar more than the average person and are more likely to bust our asses for it. Ever heard of Serge?

Dont hate just because I work harder than you. Its easy to take pot shots that way isnt it? Your failure is your own fault. Every day I hear you twats whining about how there is no money to be made, or conversions suck. Thats funny, because the small cadre of webmasters I associate with are all working on records years. Its your lack of innovation and your newb herd mentality that keeps you down. Stop posting on the boards and start paying attention asswipe. Nobody is going to hold your hand.




GFY will be your downfall. Why hang out here and copy things that other people do?
The biggest mistake you will ever make is letting people know what is making you money. Jesus, pull your head from your ass.



Riiiiight



Do you ever see me posting urls for webmaster referalls?
No thanks, I can do without the extra $15.00 a week.
I am my best sponsor numbnuts.

[This message has been edited by [Labret] (edited 12-02-2001).]

Hmm..Defensive..are we?

I too worked my way in college, & on the contrary, I have done quite a bit on my own as a webmaster...Just mainstream..& a failure I am not..I AM making $$$..numbnuts!
And YOU HAVE posted on a message board in 1997!!!!!

Wahhhhhh I hate telling people to stop crying, but......
Dude, your first post was pretty much bang on correct, I was just messing with you. A bit touchy, having a hard day are we? My sincerest apologies.

All that is well and good, there are newbs that definitely have no clue as to how to properly get started, so they choose to spam or whatever. But there are certain newer people that show up from time to time that are obviously on the ball, sharp and observant, and quick to catch on to successful ways. I know lots of guys that came to me for link trades 2 years ago that had nothing going for them but hope and a rinky-dink free site (much the way I began) and now I see many of them having good success. One of the points I was trying to inject here is that it's unwise to paint large groups of people, in this case newbies, with such broad brush strokes (like saying they're all stupid or they're all useless twits etc) because the ONLY thing they all have in common is the fact that they're new. Other than that the differences are vast, but only if one has the power to notice.

And, leaving a referral link in one's signature is a wise move in my opinion as well. It's the "leave no stone unturned" philosophy at work, and for me it makes more than 15 bucks a week extra, but even if it only makes me $10 a week so what? That would cover my @home internet access and a lunch out besides, and for what? Leaving a link in my sig?

But for a guy that has only himself as his sponsor, I suppose it would look like a waste of time. One of my biggest points here would be that there is no "my way is the only right way" in webmastering folks. I got started back in Feb. of 98, not 97 like some others, and I see this a lot... Old-school webmasters looking down on the newer people. That sounds alot like a big waste of time to my way of thinking. My business plan looks greatly different from someone who went the way of running pay sites, I run only free sites. I don't have to worry about content theft, and I don't have to worry about one of my members selling his access codes to a password site either (so 100's of assholes can ream me). I simply work hard for quality traffic, and then I send that traffic where it will make me the most money, period.

People, guys like Rat here will always be around to poke you in the eye and wake you up (without revealing the secret to what you should be doing), that's what makes a webmaster forum like this so appealing, the diversity of the people. He does serve a useful purpose when he's not being overly ridiculous with his insults, he keeps us thinking.

But for someone who professes a flair for cutting through the BS and getting to the meat of the matter -- "squeezing all the money I can out of surfers" -- I see a whole lot of useless insulting bullshit posts from you Rat. You telling me that that's not a waste of valuable time from a man of your calibre? Just shut up and admit it, you come here for diversion and amusement every bit as much as I do. I also keep my eye open for new ideas and opportunities that might fit into my business, but that's just a gravy item really. It's the interaction among webmasters from all over the world that is appealing.

I suppose I'm trying to get you to shove your arrogance and lack of respect towards others aside for a few moments and admit what I know is true, and to a small degree here I feel that I've accomplished that. I feel I understand you a bit better, I hope you can say the same about me.

As for your theory of most webmasters here being "sheep" or "cattle" or "the herd"... woudn't it be the wise webmaster that figured out how to put them all to work for himself? (as opposed to bashing them?) I may not win one of Lensman's cars, but I do have nearly 150 of these webmasters referred under me for erasercash for example. You saying I'm wasting my time? Camaaaaaaan. That's ongoing revenue that I don't have to work even one second for. That's even better than rental income, because with rentals I still have to do some maintenance work from time to time.

Your way may be super good, but there are other ways of ravaging this business for all it's worth as well, trust me. As I said before, we could learn a lot from each other, and isn't that what forums like this were really intended for?
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Dont Apologize... We all take your rants in consideration of your mental illness http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif. I was just keeping the mood of the thread.

BTW would you people stop making such long ass posts.. my ADD never lets me get past the first couple of fucking paragraphs. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif


[This message has been edited by ^R3K^ (edited 12-02-2001).]

Greatness will not be stifled by brevity.

(short enough for ya?)
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Does the fact that I see through this ploy make your nuts itch?

Your 1-liners aren't in the same universe as Gary's or Amp's. Speaking of Amp, on of my all-time favorite quotes of his went something like this.... "It's not the size of the shaft, it's how dry it is going in that counts"

Muhahaahaaa, love it.

Too long to cut apart. Its 6 am for fucks sake.



I have said this before and I will say it again. Lensman is a god-man. I have been criticized in the past for this, but GFY is pure fucking genius. This magnificent newb farm just ready to jump on any program that Lensman throws out. A ready and willing army of gallery making psychopaths just itching to put his banners on their shit. In time it will be revealed that Lensman is the smartest motherfucker in this industry. And he is relatively quiet, making him all the more alluring. I love Lensman, his name is my mantra.


I agree 100%



Of course, I spend too much time out of my day reading this dribble. Its like a little webmaster soap opera. Sometimes it makes me laugh, sometimes it makes me cry, but most times it makes me mad. Im an angry person, its just the way I am. Have I learned anything from GFY in the last few months? Uhhhhhhmmmmm If GFY represents the freshman class of webmasters, then we are all severely hurting.

But then again I know there are a ton of webmasters that dont waste their time here. I know some people making just obscene amounts of money who have never posted on a board or have gone to an IA.

I agree. Gary and Amp control the one liners. It takes me a paragraph or two to insult most people.

off course Lens made a big fuckin' business deal when he got GFY out..

the day he did, lots of people were like "fuckin wize"

he was the first to offer prizes to people... I'm sure it paid itself a lot of times!

but again... would he have come on PC to say

"hey, I'm thinking maybe of starting a BBS where I might give stuff to people... then I can get tons of people reading and discussing and it'll get tons of NewBies to me to make even more cash"

what would have happenned... someone else would have taken his ideas..

good ideas can be found on boards..

great ideas can be found in closed circles though.

amen, labret http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif you can't imagine how correct you are...