MarcDE and Quiet...... WHY??????????
 

Both of you guys are on top of your game. Both made some SERIOUS coin and the whole industry knows you guys are extremely sharp.

This leads me to my question....
WHY?
Why are you guys both still pushing all your sales thru IbillEU?

Everything that has happened in the past 60 days leads everyone to believe Ibill isn't going to make it out of this. They are having serious financial issues and now their EU processor is an issue. Why are you guys still with them? Ccbill and an EU solution why not switch to them? Is there something I'm missing? I didn't mean to call you guys out I'm just seriously curious as to why neither of you have dumped ibill.

I've often wondered this myself but it is their business so I won't intrude...
WG

True :thumbsup

You can be sure that the sales ars and quiet are pushing are probably one of the few reasons ibill still has their doors open for business. They are helping us other ibill clients have hope of one day seeing a dime of the money owed.

I know Quiet has no revshare program so whatever happens to him is a hit on him alone. However I wonder what this would do to ARS. If ibill were to be unable to pay them for over a month of sales (that Marc has already paid out on) and unable to rebill their members that is going to have to hurt.

Marc isnt missing a single payment, take that to the bank

Ibill pays for a yacht - CCBill pays for a Döner Kebap. Some are impressed, some are simply hungry. :2 cents:


(no need to understand - some will and that's enough) :)

I don't think if ARS ibill funds get frozen/dissapear/whatever MarcDE will have no problems fixing the mess and compensate his affiliates...

as for quiet god ridance if I know what goes tru that head

Need to also keep in mind that they could be one of the first to get customer dumps if IBill did go under.

Matt

Are you saying Marc isn't missing a single Ibill payment? or Not missing a webmaster payout? I know he won't miss a payout. However if ibill is having issues with their euro processor that is beyond payments. Basically transactions are being made but nobody is seeing the money.

I personally believe IBill has been shifting money around.. using new revenue to pay past monies owed, and perhaps not to the right person..

Matt

Stefan ibill didn't even pay for the yacht :winkwink: They called in a favour and got it free.

Do you guys think there is any truth to this?

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Our EU funds are still being held securely by our EU Processor. The initial commercial account that was established did not meet the depository standards of our EU bank and processor. We have established another relationship with Credit Suisse and expect to have the account open in the next week. At that time, our European processor will transfer funds for payout to our clients. We will provide an update on Wednesday, January 26th on the status of the scheduled payout.
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If that is true then this is not a good sign for ARS and Quiet.

i believe with serious volume accounts, ibill will not jeopardize those by not paying the program owner. I think marc is smart enough to know what to do and whats really going on with ibill

Veteran i agree. However remember if ibill gets dumped on by their EU processor then there is nothing they can do, and the same goes for Marcde. I've been an ibill supporter since the beginning of this. However nothing since Sept has gone right for ibill and there is no sign of that trend changing.

so basically CCBill spend more money for my Döner than IBill for the yacht. that's quite funny :1orglaugh

dont they have merchant accounts?

Ibill: Mr. Quiet, if you keep your trap shut and keep sending joins, we'll at least pay you while all of the little sheep starve. If you say anything, the sheep will revolt and that means YOU wont' get anything.

Quiet: Okie Dokie :glugglug


So I doubt that either will post in this thread.

i'm sure MarcDe must recieve payments from them, the sheer volume of sales ARS does would cripple anyone if they were paying affiliates but not recieving from the processor

:glugglug

I guess one reason is that if they stopped using Ibill they might not see any money at all (Ibill has supposedly stopped paying those who have stopped sending them new traffic/joins). If you have an enormous recurring base, you may not want to risk losing it all.

Yep, that sounds about right.

This dilemma is the worst for the old timers. We have been processing with them since 98 and still have lot's of rebillers from 2000/2001. I could not get out of bed for the next six months and still do more from those rebills than most -programs- here.

So what do you do?

I am aware that some big accounts have been seem to have been prioritized but I am equally aware that others have not. If these guys are not posting about this it's most likely because there isn't much left to be said on the topic.

ive been saying for weeks that certain people are getting paid every week on time without delay. this makes no sense, since ibill's excuses are that they have banking problems. its obvious that they are collecting plenty of money to pay their customers, but they're only paying the ones who produce volume. i have friends that are owed 100's of 1000's of dollars, but i guess those arent big enough accounts.

its great that some people are getting paid, but its going to look very, very bad for ibill when they get dragged into court.

good post

good question, but u know the answer ;-)

Which program does Quiet runs ?

You've seen quiets books?
MarcDe can prove he's worth money. Quiet has yet to prove he is worth anything except for the smoke he blows up all the sheep's asses here. Bahhh bahhh... :1orglaugh

MarcDE owns 51% of ibill

Asking why Ibill is doing this is like asking a stripper that you turned into your girlfreind how many men she slept with. You already know the answer (too many) but you still want to hear it for yourself for some stupid reason.

Speculation and propaganda :pimp

he owns ultrawiredsex. not a program

i'm betting ibill has said something like if new signups decrease they will keep the renewals.

It;s the only reason I can think of.....

but what do i know, maybe I should change to ibill..............

That actually sounds very problable...Anyway its kinda sad to see this sort of thing, but it happens everywhere :helpme

That sounds like the truth

they must get paid i am 100 percent sure of it

quiet was a little worried at times (use the search tool).

I'm an IBILL EU client and I received my check yesterday...

Terry

Who is Quiet ?

As a client (not revsharer) ? And for which period?

IbillEU still owes us!!
CcbillEU is good to us, hopefully Epoch comes to EU!

I asked as well, and they told here on GFY, IBILL EU, does not miss aSINGLE payment, and they are good for them.

But now with this new crap... we will see