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$5 submissions 01-03-2005 10:00 PM

If you were building a Paysite program...
 
what would you offer your webmasters?

Here's my short list:

-- a site suite that has been traffic-tested and validated for at least 6 months

-- site tours, members' areas, and content that have gone through several generations of client feedback, redefinition, and statistical analysis

-- an affiliate tracking system that allows for BYOTs/Tour modification

-- traffic tracking system that filters traffic info based on source and tours

-- at least 65% partnership

-- adding community and a high level of interactivity to the member's area

Mack 01-03-2005 10:01 PM

Sounds like a solid start.

TheMob 01-03-2005 10:03 PM

at least 65%? woah that's a nice chunk.

$5 submissions 01-03-2005 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mack
Sounds like a solid start.

Thanks. Any other feedback? Share your ideas :)

Sosa 01-03-2005 10:11 PM

I like the 65% :) it is nice to get that from some programs.

$5 submissions 01-03-2005 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sosa
I like the 65% :) it is nice to get that from some programs.

Specially from ones that convert and retain.

d00t 01-03-2005 11:22 PM

goodluck with your program :)

killshot 01-03-2005 11:30 PM

Beer please.

bigdog 01-03-2005 11:31 PM

pay per join, even if it's a low $20

Pornwolf 01-03-2005 11:34 PM

Sounds solid but I think you might want to rethink the whole BYOT option. It didn't work out well for ARS v1.0

Alex 01-03-2005 11:35 PM

Tested for six months?

Well then you cant really call it fresh content and thats what converts

DTK 01-03-2005 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions
what would you offer your webmasters?

Here's my short list:

-- a site suite that has been traffic-tested and validated for at least 6 months

this is the one that all the fly-by-night clowns miss.....it's like their whole idea is scrape together $5000, buy processing, cheap plugins, and advertising on the webmaster boards...and then people will drop everything to send traffic to their lame sites...

$5 submissions 01-03-2005 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d00t
goodluck with your program :)

Thanks, but it's for a client.

$5 submissions 01-03-2005 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaliboy2g
Tested for six months?

Well then you cant really call it fresh content and thats what converts

Testing means making sure the tours convert with inhouse generated traffic. Also, setting up focus groups/feedback strategies with actual surfers of the site. Maybe even running updates through a email group/forum of niche afficionados.

Funky Bastard 01-03-2005 11:57 PM

Just slap it up and start selling fuck all that testing shit to much work not worth it build it then get webmasters end of story.

$5 submissions 01-03-2005 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKS
Just slap it up and start selling fuck all that testing shit to much work not worth it build it then get webmasters end of story.

I'd rather measure many times and cut once than the other way around when it comes to building businesses.
:2 cents:

$5 submissions 01-04-2005 12:32 AM

Would people be interested in Incentive packages?

instead of reward points, maybe offer Free Trips to Japan or the Great Wall of China or other exotic landmarks.

TheMob 01-04-2005 01:54 AM

yeah, you forgot about the free beer

$5 submissions 01-04-2005 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMob
yeah, you forgot about the free beer

Keg or bottles or cans?

More Booze 01-04-2005 02:31 AM

More payout options than just checks and wire.

$5 submissions 01-04-2005 02:43 AM

How about Western Union payouts?

dcortez 01-04-2005 02:47 AM

Instead of daily cash payouts via courier, how about advances against future signups.

Let me know when you're ready.

:winkwink:

-Dino

$5 submissions 01-04-2005 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcortez
how about advances against future signups.

I read that while drinking a cup of coffee. I guess it's time to look for a new monitor.

DutchTeenCash 01-04-2005 03:17 AM

all sounds very nice but as vague as can be

-- adding community and a high level of interactivity to the member's area

so whats that ? i wanna hear ideas :)

Theo 01-04-2005 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK
this is the one that all the fly-by-night clowns miss.....it's like their whole idea is scrape together $5000, buy processing, cheap plugins, and advertising on the webmaster boards...and then people will drop everything to send traffic to their lame sites...


exactly :)

$5 submissions 01-04-2005 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx
all sounds very nice but as vague as can be

-- adding community and a high level of interactivity to the member's area

so whats that ? i wanna hear ideas :)

We've got our own ideas. An old but successful model is suicidegirls.com Very instructive.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-04-2005 03:54 AM

I can tell you why BYOT was destined to fail if ya folks like:)

Theo 01-04-2005 03:57 AM

i want :)

$5 submissions 01-04-2005 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
I can tell you why BYOT was destined to fail if ya folks like:)

Go for it, bro. Discuss away.

One great thing about BYOT is that it addresses a key issue that many programs seem to miss--who's in a better position to know the proclivities/tendencies of a webmaster's traffic? the sponsor or the webmaster sending the traffic? If it's the latter, then why not give the latter some tools to sculpt the marketing materials to the psychological landscape of his surfers?

Rhesus 01-04-2005 04:15 AM

Dedicated support staff, that is willing to go out of their way to arrange private deals (better payouts for high volume, free dedicated hosting and content for experienced gallery submitters) instead of the usual one-fits-all approach.

$5 submissions 01-04-2005 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhesus
Dedicated support staff, that is willing to go out of their way to arrange private deals (better payouts for high volume, free dedicated hosting and content for experienced gallery submitters) instead of the usual one-fits-all approach.

I believe many of the revshare programs out there offer special free hosting deals.

JoeA 01-04-2005 08:10 AM

An idea that worked for me..
 
More than testing the site... A lot of pre launch promotion...

I did a hell of a lot for Sahara Gets Dirty, starting 2 months before the site was launched. The first 2 sign up's came within 30 mins of the launch and it's carried on from there..

You will also need a lot of promotional material for affiliates, not that many of them will use it, as 99% are too damn lazy and will just add a link on a TGP or links site to your FHG etc. I wonder how many would go for BYOT if they can't even bother to use a banner... :)

Alex 01-04-2005 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions
Testing means making sure the tours convert with inhouse generated traffic. Also, setting up focus groups/feedback strategies with actual surfers of the site. Maybe even running updates through a email group/forum of niche afficionados.


Doesnt matter.
You are still going to be feeding it s.e, tgp, mail, ll, whatever traffic for 6months.

Doesnt matter if you genrate it or 1000 affiliates.

BTW answer your ICQ i need a quote for a small job.

Twe Russ 01-04-2005 12:22 PM

Instant payout. Plenty of promo material. A forcasting system for your track trends.
Multiple payout methods. Hourly URL stats reporting [realtime]. Banner Free hosting.
Free Counter. Fresh Weekly Hosted Galleries & Content. First 10 Joins @ $50.00 or
a High Percentage Payout Of The Sign Ups For a Full Week To Test Your Program...

strobi 01-04-2005 01:15 PM

65% on a site that retains and converts? I'd be allll over it!!

xclusive 01-04-2005 01:18 PM

If you put together a program like that and used nats i'd support the hell out of you...

Twe Russ 01-04-2005 01:32 PM

Suddenly there is a silence. :oD

$5 submissions 01-05-2005 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twe Russ
Instant payout. Plenty of promo material. A forcasting system for your track trends.
Multiple payout methods. Hourly URL stats reporting [realtime]. Banner Free hosting.
Free Counter. Fresh Weekly Hosted Galleries & Content. First 10 Joins @ $50.00 or
a High Percentage Payout Of The Sign Ups For a Full Week To Test Your Program...

Instant payout, that's interesting.

Forecasting system, I think I've seen this before.

There's many private free hosting deals. Maybe it's a better idea for the sponsor to directly approach affiliates that are pushing a lot of hits and give them free hosting.

Rhesus 01-05-2005 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions
Instant payout, that's interesting.

Forecasting system, I think I've seen this before.

There's many private free hosting deals. Maybe it's a better idea for the sponsor to directly approach affiliates that are pushing a lot of hits and give them free hosting.

the bannerless free hosting that many sponsors provide is practically worthless (for TGP / MGP submitting). Private dedicated hosting deals is the wtg.

junction 01-05-2005 05:40 AM

Is it really 65%? Or is it 65% and processing comes out of our end so we are really only making about 50%?


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