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sperbonzo 12-14-2004 11:17 AM

Soctt Peterson will never be executed....He will just do life in prison.
 
Ramirez (the nightstalker), the Mendez brothers, and 600 other serial killers, monsters and murders have been sitting on death row in CA for up to 25+ years.....

Peterson's lawyers are already cranking up the appeals. He will probably DIE OF OLD AGE rather than lethal injection. Frankly, it's a pretty good deal to be sentenced to death in California. You get to have your own cell, BETTER food, BETTER access to books, TV, etc....

Hell, Ramirez, 10 years after killing bunches of women, was even allowed to GET MARRIED to some wacky chic, and then have conjigal visits! He is still there now after 20 years.

Meanwhile all you people in Cali are paying for it.

Mr. Pat 12-14-2004 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
Ramirez (the nightstalker), the Mendez brothers, and 600 other serial killers, monsters and murders have been sitting on death row in CA for up to 25+ years.....

Peterson's lawyers are already cranking up the appeals. He will probably DIE OF OLD AGE rather than lethal injection. Frankly, it's a pretty good deal to be sentenced to death in California. You get to have your own cell, BETTER food, BETTER access to books, TV, etc....

Hell, Ramirez, 10 years after killing bunches of women, was even allowed to GET MARRIED to some wacky chic, and then have conjigal visits! He is still there now after 20 years.

Meanwhile all you people in Cali are paying for it.

fuckin' raw deal for the taxpayers of cali.

korzon 12-14-2004 11:28 AM

the death penalty should be abolished altogether in the US

Manowar 12-14-2004 11:29 AM

death row sounds like a holiday inn :1orglaugh

sperbonzo 12-14-2004 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by korzon
the death penalty should be abolished altogether in the US
Luckily for us, the US is a democracy, and the people of each state get to vote whether of not to have the death penalty.

Whenever the question comes up here in florida, the death penalty passes with a BIG margin :thumbsup

Jakke PNG 12-14-2004 11:31 AM

Death penalty should be carried out behind the courthouse after the trial is over.

Phoenix 12-14-2004 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
Luckily for us, the US is a democracy, and the people of each state get to vote whether of not to have the death penalty.

Whenever the question comes up here in florida, the death penalty passes with a BIG margin :thumbsup

the more you believe you are living in a democracy...the bigger weave they can wrap around you....keep on pushing those electronic voting screens with no paper trace..lol


see you soon:thumbsup

Wiggles 12-14-2004 11:34 AM

capital punishment is pointless, by the time they die its been so long that it doesn't even matter anymore.

Amber Frey 12-14-2004 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Death penalty should be carried out behind the courthouse after the trial is over.
:321GFY

sperbonzo 12-14-2004 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Death penalty should be carried out behind the courthouse after the trial is over.
Actually, they just passed a new law in Texas that,

if there were 3 confirmed eye-witnesses to the murder that you are convicted of,

then some of the appeals process is removed and you are executed within one year.

Jakke PNG 12-14-2004 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Amber Frey
:321GFY
Why'd ya give me the finger? You think it's a good idea to have murderers eating taxpayers money while WAITING to be killed for decades? Makes sense to me.

sperbonzo 12-14-2004 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix
the more you believe you are living in a democracy...the bigger weave they can wrap around you....keep on pushing those electronic voting screens with no paper trace..lol


see you soon:thumbsup

Damn it Brad.. Don't believe all the "voting fraud" hype and bull....
We are going to have to drink ourselves stupid in Vegas....:glugglug

Amber Frey 12-14-2004 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Why'd ya give me the finger? You think it's a good idea to have murderers eating taxpayers money while WAITING to be killed for decades? Makes sense to me.
Scott is NOT a murderer! It was all a misunderstanding.

Phoenix 12-14-2004 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
Damn it Brad.. Don't believe all the "voting fraud" hype and bull....
We are going to have to drink ourselves stupid in Vegas....:glugglug

\

sounds good to me man

two or three weeks and it is on..i still owe you a steak dinner

BT 12-14-2004 11:51 AM

Pulic stoning should be in effect

sperbonzo 12-14-2004 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by BT_trafficcashgold
Pulic stoning should be in effect

hmmmm..... I see what you are saying. If I was faced with possibly being stoned in my Pulic, I would certainly think twice.....Ouch! ;-)

SuckOnThis 12-14-2004 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo


Hell, Ramirez, 10 years after killing bunches of women, was even allowed to GET MARRIED to some wacky chic, and then have conjigal visits!

Once again a right wing prick lies to push an agenda.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k.../terror_1.html

'She claimed to be a virgin at the time of their wedding, and marrying Ramirez wouldn't change that because conjugal visits are not permitted for death-row inmates.'

Sly 12-14-2004 11:58 AM

I don't agree with the death penalty. I'd rather see them rot in jail while being punished by his cellmates. The death penalty isn't cruel enough for horrible crimes that people commit. Add to that the fact that the death penalty costs taxpayers more money than a life sentence and I really see no point.

The death penalty is more of societies vision of vengeance than an actual penalty.

wes 12-14-2004 12:00 PM

I moved to Nevada. :glugglug
But I do agree that he won't get the penalty.

xclusive 12-14-2004 12:01 PM

Soctt Peterson will never be executed for sure but Scott Peterson might...I am thinking that he might actually get off on appeal because theer really wasn't much evidence...

sperbonzo 12-14-2004 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Once again a right wing prick lies to push an agenda.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k.../terror_1.html

'She claimed to be a virgin at the time of their wedding, and marrying Ramirez wouldn't change that because conjugal visits are not permitted for death-row inmates.'

Sorry, it wasn't a Lie, it was an error.

I apologize for getting it wrong. Now that you've shown your weighty powers of debate by jumping into personal insults to a person that you DON'T EVEN KNOW..... would you like to address the REST of the issue? Don't YOU have a problem with the way that Ramirez is living considering all of the young women whose lives he wiped out?


Please attempt an answer based on logic, not insults. Try not to act like an adolecent idiot.....I would submit that it doesn't make you look good.:2 cents:

SuckOnThis 12-14-2004 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
Try not to act like an adolecent idiot.....I would submit that it doesn't make you look good.:2 cents:

It doesnt make me look good proving you lied?


:1orglaugh

sperbonzo 12-14-2004 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Sly
I don't agree with the death penalty. I'd rather see them rot in jail while being punished by his cellmates. The death penalty isn't cruel enough for horrible crimes that people commit. Add to that the fact that the death penalty costs taxpayers more money than a life sentence and I really see no point.

The death penalty is more of societies vision of vengeance than an actual penalty.

I agree that the way it is set up now, it IS WAY too expensive. We definitely need to have a way to make the system less expensive and more efficient.

For example (though this doesn't have to do with the death penalty itself), I like the way that they set up prison in Maricopa county AZ. There is NO Cable TV, NO Gym, NO video games, NO Porn, NO cigarettes, crappy clothes, cheap food, etc....

OzMan 12-14-2004 12:09 PM

I hope they don't give the fucker high speed access. He will be posting on GFY every 10 minutes :(

sperbonzo 12-14-2004 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
It doesnt make me look good proving you lied?


:1orglaugh

I'm sorry, I'm not used to dealing with omnipotent, all-knowing beings such as yourself, I thought that you were just a normal person like myself, that MAKES MISTAKES sometimes... and that can be corrected at times. Why assume that it was a lie?


the part when you look bad, by the way, is when you revert to personal insult and name-calling for no good reason at all.

Sly 12-14-2004 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
I agree that the way it is set up now, it IS WAY too expensive. We definitely need to have a way to make the system less expensive and more efficient.

For example (though this doesn't have to do with the death penalty itself), I like the way that they set up prison in Maricopa county AZ. There is NO Cable TV, NO Gym, NO video games, NO Porn, NO cigarettes, crappy clothes, cheap food, etc....

Is that a test they're doing or has it proven to work already?

I'm not keen on giving prisoners all kinds of "cool stuff", but at the same time I do think prisoners need some "things" to remain sane and hopefully find their way back into society as a better person. No gym is pretty harsh and seems counter-active. I can only imagine what kind of health issues, both mental and physical, something like that could cause. I see nothing wrong with allowing prisoners to exercise, read, watch the news, things of that nature... PRODUCTIVE things. Porn, no. Video games, no. Cable, no.

You do need to keep in mind that these people will most likely get out of prison someday. I'd rather them be mentally sane then not.

Fake Nick 12-14-2004 12:19 PM

for the record ,it is a myth that life in prison is more expensive than the death penalty


it is much more cheaper for the taxpayer to have someone for life in prison than have him executed the legal way


of course just putting a bullet in his head would only cost $3 for the bullet assuming the police has weapons anyways ,


do some research and find out that life in prison is much cheaper than the death penalty :2 cents:

sperbonzo 12-14-2004 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly
Is that a test they're doing or has it proven to work already?

I'm not keen on giving prisoners all kinds of "cool stuff", but at the same time I do think prisoners need some "things" to remain sane and hopefully find their way back into society as a better person. No gym is pretty harsh and seems counter-active. I can only imagine what kind of health issues, both mental and physical, something like that could cause. I see nothing wrong with allowing prisoners to exercise, read, watch the news, things of that nature... PRODUCTIVE things. Porn, no. Video games, no. Cable, no.

You do need to keep in mind that these people will most likely get out of prison someday. I'd rather them be mentally sane then not.

It's not a test, it has been in place for well over 10 years now.

As for the gym, have you seen how BIG the guys are that have spent years in prison lifting weights? They go in as criminals, but they come out as HUGE SUPER CRIMINALS. (potentially, anyway :) )

Drake 12-14-2004 12:21 PM

I don't believe in the death penalty any longer either though in some instances I almost give in to the temptation because of the brutality of a crime.

If somebody is sentenced to life in prison, I agree, lets cut out all the extraneous expenses. The gym? No. Cable TV? No. Steaks? No, how about bread instead.

And considering the "Death Penalty" is actually more expensive than life imprisonment with appeals and legal bs that goes on for decades.

sperbonzo 12-14-2004 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
for the record ,it is a myth that life in prison is more expensive than the death penalty


it is much more cheaper for the taxpayer to have someone for life in prison than have him executed the legal way


of course just putting a bullet in his head would only cost $3 for the bullet assuming the police has weapons anyways ,


do some research and find out that life in prison is much cheaper than the death penalty :2 cents:

I agree.....that's to point of my post, actually. We need to make it cheaper.

Sly 12-14-2004 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
for the record ,it is a myth that life in prison is more expensive than the death penalty


it is much more cheaper for the taxpayer to have someone for life in prison than have him executed the legal way


of course just putting a bullet in his head would only cost $3 for the bullet assuming the police has weapons anyways ,


do some research and find out that life in prison is much cheaper than the death penalty :2 cents:

A few of us have already stated that. And yes, you're right. The legal processes involved with the death penalty are extremely expensive, costing over $1.5M. While life in prison, based on the average prison stay of lifers is about half that.

SuckOnThis 12-14-2004 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
I'm sorry, I'm not used to dealing with omnipotent, all-knowing beings such as yourself, I thought that you were just a normal person like myself, that MAKES MISTAKES sometimes... and that can be corrected at times. Why assume that it was a lie?


the part when you look bad, by the way, is when you revert to personal insult and name-calling for no good reason at all.

Why do you keep saying it was an 'error'? What kind of error, a typing error? You were attempting to make the argument that death row inmates,in your words, "Frankly, it's a pretty good deal to be sentenced to death in California" and then said "Hell, Ramirez, 10 years after killing bunches of women, was even allowed to GET MARRIED to some wacky chic, and then have conjigal visits!" Either you don't know what you're talking about or you intentionally lied. Which is it?

Sly 12-14-2004 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
It's not a test, it has been in place for well over 10 years now.

As for the gym, have you seen how BIG the guys are that have spent years in prison lifting weights? They go in as criminals, but they come out as HUGE SUPER CRIMINALS. (potentially, anyway :) )

Sure, I have. But I also know that no exercise can make people go crazy and cause serious health issues, which we end up paying for.

So ease up on the weights. I don't see anything wrong with a couple games of basketball a week?

sperbonzo 12-14-2004 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Why do you keep saying it was an 'error'? What kind of error, a typing error? You were attempting to make the argument that death row inmates,in your words, "Frankly, it's a pretty good deal to be sentenced to death in California" and then said "Hell, Ramirez, 10 years after killing bunches of women, was even allowed to GET MARRIED to some wacky chic, and then have conjigal visits!" Either you don't know what you're talking about or you intentionally lied. Which is it?
I knew that he had gotten married, and I was told by a friend that he had conjigul rights.....I believed my friend and that was an error. I should have researched it prior to posting.

So why would you call me a prick? Do you know me? Do you have any idea what I'm all about, my background, my actions, my character?
What part of the debate process would THAT be?

JerseyPuma 12-14-2004 12:35 PM

and then theres this to think about:

The Innocent 23

SuckOnThis 12-14-2004 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
I knew that he had gotten married, and I was told by a friend that he had conjigul rights.....I believed my friend and that was an error. I should have researched it prior to posting.
Fair enough

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo

So why would you call me a prick? Do you know me? Do you have any idea what I'm all about, my background, my actions, my character?
What part of the debate process would THAT be?

Nope, don't know you personally, but it irritates the hell out of me when people such as yourself spread bullshit that isnt true to support the death penalty, or to push for faster executions. There have been many innocent people executed in this country, and the death penalty has done nothing but send a message to society that a life is disposable. It does not deter murder, it in fact creates murder. States that do not have a death penalty have a much lower murder rate than states who are gung ho over it such as Texas. Conditions on death row are not better than general prison, they are locked in a small cell 23 hours a day with lights kept on 24 hours a day and 24 hours of constant surveillance. Now, if that sounds like a good deal to you, then by all means I'm sure you can find a way to get there.

Drake 12-14-2004 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly
legal processes involved with the death penalty are extremely expensive, costing over $1.5M. While life in prison, based on the average prison stay of lifers is about half that.
Lawyers and the judicial system reap the millions in tax dollars as a result of this bureaucratic process. I don't expect it to change anytime soon.

ibbunk 12-14-2004 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
Ramirez (the nightstalker), the Mendez brothers, and 600 other serial killers, monsters and murders have been sitting on death row in CA for up to 25+ years.....

Peterson's lawyers are already cranking up the appeals. He will probably DIE OF OLD AGE rather than lethal injection. Frankly, it's a pretty good deal to be sentenced to death in California. You get to have your own cell, BETTER food, BETTER access to books, TV, etc....

Hell, Ramirez, 10 years after killing bunches of women, was even allowed to GET MARRIED to some wacky chic, and then have conjigal visits! He is still there now after 20 years.

Meanwhile all you people in Cali are paying for it.

I heard on radio this morning there are 632 inmates in front of him. He will likely die in prison. In the end, it will end up costing the state $4.5 million which includes the court processes, etc.

sperbonzo 12-14-2004 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Fair enough



Nope, don't know you personally, but it irritates the hell out of me when people such as yourself spread bullshit that isnt true to support the death penalty, or to push for faster executions.

I find many opinions to be quite annoying. I assume from the tone of your response that you on the left end of the spectrum. There have been MANY times when I have seen untruths, half-truths, and total pie-in-the-sky ideas spread as "facts" on behalf of the left.
This can drive me CRAZY, but I realize, as a mature person, that calling people names that I have never even met only shows ignorance and a lack of control which tend to negate my point of view.

When I insult someone it is because of their actions or their character.... not their opinion.

Just a thought.

Indica 12-14-2004 01:44 PM

my wish for scott in the new year is, That he gets as many dif items shoved up his useless ass as possible, That with christmas coming, and everyone feeling in the givin spirit..they give it to him..over and over and over again.
welcome to your life scott.
for those that think, because he is away from most of the other inmates, that this will not happen...many have come before him, and many will come after him...where theres a will..theres away.
and I have complete faith that big bad bobba joe, will find his way to him. :thumbsup


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