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polish_aristocrat 11-07-2004 07:53 AM

BUSINESS THREAD: Why aren't sponsors using the pop up code that beats SP2 yet?
 
Since like 1 week I surf with SP2 and I must admit it, it makes surfing far more convenient, since it is far better than Google Pop Up blocker.

But what is good for me as a surfer, isn''t necessarly good for webmasters.

If there is a working code that beats SP2, then why aren't the biggest programs using it YET?

With more and more people downloading SP2, I am sure they are already losing significant revenue....

SGx 11-07-2004 07:54 AM

i don' t know any working anti sp2 popup code working, some work with sp2 but don't with sp1 and vice versa, so nothing can be installed at the moment imo

crockett 11-07-2004 07:55 AM

there was a nice working one posted here the other day..worked on me and I have SP2 and google

polish_aristocrat 11-07-2004 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
there was a nice working one posted here the other day..worked on me and I have SP2 and google
so why aren't the big programs using it?

Once again, to us it may seem irrelevant if they start using it now or in 3 months, but to them, it probably makes a $erious difference.

candyflip 11-07-2004 09:14 AM

Laziness. Either haven't bothered to get the code or have it and haven't set it up yet.

I just got the code last night. Going to get it added to our tours today. Not that it matters...cause we're the only ones using them.

Doctor Dre 11-07-2004 09:16 AM

Why don't you get firefox ? It's better then sp2 m$ shitty browser

teomaxxx 11-07-2004 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
Laziness. Either haven't bothered to get the code or have it and haven't set it up yet.

I just got the code last night. Going to get it added to our tours today. Not that it matters...cause we're the only ones using them.

can you post that code here, please?

Jakke PNG 11-07-2004 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Why don't you get firefox ? It's better then sp2 m$ shitty browser
Anyone know if there's a code that can spawn pop-unders or pop-ups for firefox?

Matt_WildCash 11-07-2004 09:33 AM

Yeah seen a couple of the bigger sponsors using the new sp2 code. We'll be putting it in place on our 20 sites for Wildcash probably tomorrow. Just got it before the weekend. Works a treat :)

TheEbonyFelony 11-07-2004 09:33 AM

i need popups to test for pps credit

Manowar 11-07-2004 09:34 AM

from looking at TCG sites, their code does.

candyflip 11-07-2004 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by teomaxxx
can you post that code here, please?
Of course. All the details are here...

http://www.2dxtremenetwork.com/cgi-b...t=ST;f=1;t=184

Libertine 11-07-2004 09:37 AM

Treating your customers as "the enemy" will be bad for business in the end. People who try to get popups to break through anti-popup software are no better than the people with auto-installing dialers on their home pages :2 cents:


Besides, using in-page dhtml pop-overs works much better :glugglug

polish_aristocrat 11-07-2004 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
from looking at TCG sites, their code does.
Not for me.

Matt_WildCash 11-07-2004 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
Treating your customers as "the enemy" will be bad for business in the end. People who try to get popups to break through anti-popup software are no better than the people with auto-installing dialers on their home pages :2 cents:


Besides, using in-page dhtml pop-overs works much better :glugglug

Customers come and go and when this business is dictatored to the sponsor programs by the affilates wanting those $35 per trial payouts the sponsors have NO Choice but to use exits.

And the person visiting your site and then leaving is no longer your customer they are nothing to you anymore as they have LEFT! If they have hit the close or back button then they don't want what you have to offer & won't be back, thats the idea behind EXITS! You offer them something that they do want, if it didn't work exits wouldn't be used, it does work and makes it possible for affilates to earn $35 per trial instead of $25.

Doctor Dre 11-07-2004 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Anyone know if there's a code that can spawn pop-unders or pop-ups for firefox?
Smokey had one . but it didn't work too well

Konda 11-07-2004 10:46 AM

I saw some beasty site that had it a couple of weeks ago, I probably shouldn't post the link here but I do it anyway
http://www.farmsexgirls.com/
Maybe you can copy the code from them. The exit console came up for me with both google and sp2 popup blocker in IE

polish_aristocrat 11-07-2004 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Konda
I saw some beasty site that had it a couple of weeks ago, I probably shouldn't post the link here but I do it anyway
http://www.farmsexgirls.com/
Maybe you can copy the code from them. The exit console came up for me with both google and sp2 popup blocker in IE

True, it works, but kinda not as a typical console, since it opened their new Zoo site in the window where I had GFY.

Konda 11-07-2004 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
True, it works, but kinda not as a typical console, since it opened their new Zoo site in the window where I had GFY.
Same here, looks like when there is another browser window already open it opens the exit in that one. Don't know if thats a good thing or not. When there is no other browser window opened it does seem to work as a regular exit.

Konda 11-07-2004 11:02 AM

BTW. Anyone knows about how many % of the surfers actually have SP2 ?

polish_aristocrat 11-07-2004 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Konda
BTW. Anyone knows about how many % of the surfers actually have SP2 ?
No idea, but I am sure the number is raising each week.

teomaxxx 11-08-2004 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
No idea, but I am sure the number is raising each week.
what i found out that almost that i found out almost half of my exit traffic since aprill. but its not only because of SP2, a lot of people started to use firefox recently.

teomaxxx 11-08-2004 03:13 AM

so i am just prepering to exchange exit popup codes in about 1k pages. that will be really boring.

media 11-08-2004 03:14 AM

We are using the code now...

Adult-biz 11-08-2004 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
Of course. All the details are here...

http://www.2dxtremenetwork.com/cgi-b...t=ST;f=1;t=184

This link down?

I`ve tried some code that was listed on this and other boards and they don`t seem to be working properly for me.

Anybody have something which they *think* seems to be working ok?

Thanks.

MrJackMeHoff 11-08-2004 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Konda
I saw some beasty site that had it a couple of weeks ago, I probably shouldn't post the link here but I do it anyway
http://www.farmsexgirls.com/
Maybe you can copy the code from them. The exit console came up for me with both google and sp2 popup blocker in IE

Doesnt work in firefox.

dcortez 11-08-2004 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Driven
And the person visiting your site and then leaving is no longer your customer they are nothing to you anymore as they have LEFT!
The value and respect one extends to others (not just paying or duped customers) reflects on you and your enterprise overall.

As a consumer, I will NEVER do business with anyone who suggests they will use any trick in the book to get my money. That goes for spam and circle-jerk popup sites.

The market has spoken - they want a choice when it comes to automatically generated windows.

Tools have been provided for the market to facilitate their choice. If they want popups THEY CAN enable them.

To my thinking, anyone who blatently tries to hack their way into their customer's face is of the same breed of wreckless dinks who used every trick in the book to rebill their clients - you wonder why adult processing is considered high risk?

You made it so.

Now those who offer traditional customer value and support services to prospects and paid members have to pay dearly for the trail of crap the quick-money hacks have left behind (and apparently continue reinvent ways to do so).

andrej_NDC 11-08-2004 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Konda
BTW. Anyone knows about how many % of the surfers actually have SP2 ?
just checked my sexcounter stats, 67% of my surfers use Windows XP, so sooner or later all of them will have SP, because windows makes it really easy for them...

tranza 11-08-2004 07:22 AM

I will just say 1 thing: Firefox rocks!

:glugglug

Fuck popups.

the real magoo 11-08-2004 07:41 AM

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SGx 11-08-2004 08:24 AM

code plz

teomaxxx 11-09-2004 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
Of course. All the details are here...

http://www.2dxtremenetwork.com/cgi-b...t=ST;f=1;t=184

this link is down, but just yesterday it were up. can anyone post that code here. i need that asap.
thanks a lot

teomaxxx 11-09-2004 07:37 AM

already find that by myself in that board.
its this code:
<script language="javascript"><!--
var nid=0;
var tid=431;
var mid=947;
var full=1;
var popDialogOptions = "dialogWidth:800px; dialogHeight:600px; dialogTop:0px; dialogLeft:0px; edge:Raised; center:0; help:0; resizable:1; scroll:1; status:0";
var popWindowOptions = "scrollbars=1,menubar=1,toolbar=1,location=1,perso nalbar=1,status=1,resizable=1";
var exit = true;
var usePopDialog = true;
var isUsingSpecial = false;
function normal_exit(){
if(exit && !isUsingSpecial) {
exit = false;
window.open(popURL,"",popWindowOptions);}}
--></script>
<script language="jscript.encode" src="http://www.2dxtremenetwork.com/popper/ricardopop.js"></script>
<BODY STYLE="behavior:url(#default#clientcaps)" ID="oClientCaps" onUnload="normal_exit()">

12clicks 11-09-2004 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dcortez
The value and respect one extends to others (not just paying or duped customers) reflects on you and your enterprise overall.

As a consumer, I will NEVER do business with anyone who suggests they will use any trick in the book to get my money. That goes for spam and circle-jerk popup sites.

The market has spoken - they want a choice when it comes to automatically generated windows.

Tools have been provided for the market to facilitate their choice. If they want popups THEY CAN enable them.

To my thinking, anyone who blatently tries to hack their way into their customer's face is of the same breed of wreckless dinks who used every trick in the book to rebill their clients - you wonder why adult processing is considered high risk?

You made it so.

Now those who offer traditional customer value and support services to prospects and paid members have to pay dearly for the trail of crap the quick-money hacks have left behind (and apparently continue reinvent ways to do so).

dear surfer, I don't know how you found your way here but I'll explain how things work on the internet (I know it will be wasted on you, but my audience isn't entirely made up of dopey surfers)

The internet is not free. It costs money to keep a site online. The best way to make money to support your site is thru popups and exits. While the surfer may *like* to not see popups, he'd also like to not see commercials on TV.
Well, just as free TV would go away without commercials, a good bit of the internet will go away without popup ads and exits.
You see, in the end, the surfer doesn't win by blocking popups, they're just dumb enough to *think* they do.

teomaxxx 11-09-2004 07:58 AM

what a great response
:thumbsup

dcortez 11-09-2004 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
dear surfer, I don't know how you found your way here but I'll explain how things work on the internet (I know it will be wasted on you, but my audience isn't entirely made up of dopey surfers)

The internet is not free. It costs money to keep a site online. The best way to make money to support your site is thru popups and exits. While the surfer may *like* to not see popups, he'd also like to not see commercials on TV.
Well, just as free TV would go away without commercials, a good bit of the internet will go away without popup ads and exits.
You see, in the end, the surfer doesn't win by blocking popups, they're just dumb enough to *think* they do.

I have operated adult membership sites since 1999.

My adult work and sites have been featured by Playboy, UK television, and in adult media worldwide.

I pay close to $6/gig for my bandwidth which is probably 3 times if not 5 times what many US-based site owners pay.

Spare me the 'the internet is not free' crap.

I know it. I pay for it. Probably more than you each month.

You're defending an increasingly losing position. Have you not noticed that most major sponsors are shifting to no-popup previews and many listing sites now refuse links to sites with popups.

Your own industry (only by loose association) has already recognized and responded to this.

Spam (which also seems to fit your list of excusable abuses explanation) has been outlawed.

Are you not getting the message?

I suppose the fact you were unable to determine that I am a webmaster most tangibly demonstrates your ignorance.

Don't give up your day job kid - you're going to need it.

emthree 11-09-2004 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dcortez
Are you not getting the message?
YOU don't seem to get it, popups and other intrusive tactics are here to stay. If people are making money off exits, then obviouslly not EVERYONE is hating them that much. The trick is to respect your surfers with the exits, dont put an exit up that will spawn off 10More. Bitch all you want, but it wont get you anywhere.

StuartD 11-09-2004 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
dear surfer, I don't know how you found your way here but I'll explain how things work on the internet (I know it will be wasted on you, but my audience isn't entirely made up of dopey surfers)

The internet is not free. It costs money to keep a site online. The best way to make money to support your site is thru popups and exits. While the surfer may *like* to not see popups, he'd also like to not see commercials on TV.
Well, just as free TV would go away without commercials, a good bit of the internet will go away without popup ads and exits.
You see, in the end, the surfer doesn't win by blocking popups, they're just dumb enough to *think* they do.

translation:

dear surfer, we are only internet computer geeks and don't know how to make money without conning, scamming, tricking and spamming. We can't afford the $8.95 it costs to register a domain and the $20 a month to host it, so we figure out any method we can to swindle you out of your $24.95 a month or more just to line our pockets a little better. While you jerk off and get caught and get a divorce and lose your house and kids, we're going to buy a Ferrari with the money we tricked you out of... sure we'll burn in hell, but at least we aren't divorced and homeless.

bluff 11-09-2004 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by emthree
YOU don't seem to get it, popups and other intrusive tactics are here to stay. If people are making money off exits, then obviouslly not EVERYONE is hating them that much. The trick is to respect your surfers with the exits, dont put an exit up that will spawn off 10More. Bitch all you want, but it wont get you anywhere.
you guys are dumb short term thinkers

12clicks 11-09-2004 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dcortez


I suppose the fact you were unable to determine that I am a webmaster most tangibly demonstrates your ignorance.


no son, the fact that I can't determine that you're a webmaster most tangibly demonstrates my point.:1orglaugh


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