shut up n00b

wow, this kid certainly has mental problems. not sure if he's bitter for being on the internet and never making much money, imagining that all of his betters had to cheat to get there, bitter about getting caught jerking off to porn, or is just religiously repressed and thinks he's going to burn in hell.

the internet, where even morons can pretend they matter.:1orglaugh

you making me fucking sick

fuck you you arrogant son of a whore

exactly why 12dicks spends so much time here


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

well, you shouldn't get too sick, I doubt you'll be here very long.:1orglaugh

anyone get the above code to work? As I get errors on the page when I try to use it, seems lin the body info is where I am getting the errors at..?

the cut and paste code can be found here

http://earthunplugged.org/aa/

then i wonder why a lot of big and successful mainstream sites use popups too.
using blind linked thumbs and popups on my SE traffic, i still do earn much more more $ then proving them with free pics and console free pages.
Trying to be good friend of surfer who wants everything for free isnt always the most successful way.
But then again, i am not prisoner of TGP "charitable and nonconsole" mentality, giving everything for free with hope that one of 10000 surfers will buy something
:1orglaugh

you should also download that javascript file and put it on your own.
here is, how to do that:


Step one copy the code
Step two Download the js file that the code points to
Step 3 open the js file in your notepad and change the URL to where you want to exit to(Only the url leave everything else as is or it won't work!)
Step 4 upload the js file to your server and change the url in the code to that location
Step 5 paste that code on your page like you would with regular exit code.

i copy and paste this info from that board...

only fags use popups

:thumbsup I am sick of talking to friends and other people that aren't webmasters who seem to think that running a site doesn't cost any money. Why should I let them suck my money out, trade my contetnt on p2p things,cost me money via bandwith, etc and not try to sell them something in exchange or at the very least get a little something from their visit (traffic exchange, etc). Sure if they are chained pop ups with attempted downloads that may overstep things but I am slightly sick of people acting as if it is a personal insult if you try to sell them something they are trying to take for free.

So if you are in a mall and walk into a store and don't buy anything, a clerk has the right to follow you out of the store and shove advertisments in your face? Would you EVER go back to that store again?

I wonder how they got the idea that everything on the internet should be free in the first place?

Well put :thumbsup

It's refreshing to see some sensibility in this thread.

-Dino

hmmmm, considering 100s of millions of dollars a year are made thru popup sales, you have no point. your analogy is a poor one.
If people were that offended by popups, they wouldn't buy from them.
here's a news flash for you: they do.
:1orglaugh


if only more posters were in this business and not just pretending to be.

No you are just too obtuse to understand it.

I bet you were one of the first to put your phone # on the "Do not call list" and I'm sure you just LOVE getting junk mail and seeing flyers underneath your windsheild wiper when you come of a store.

Have any % on how many people that have thier pop-up blockers over-ridden turn into paying customers? I would say the % is VERY VERY small.

If someone WANTED pop-ups they wouldn't have a pop-up blocker now would they?

Boy you are full of yourself. You're nothing a nobody. Color me unimpressed by your assinine and inane posts.

You say "this business" like you're curing cancer. We sell porn. Get over yourself already.

no put all the same a customer can't come in and demand they take down all their promotional posters and upsell materials just because he thinks he shouldn't have to look at them.

I'm not at all supportive of browser hijacking, etc but one or two popups, sorry but I am not a charity.

I'm sorry!
I've only been buying and selling popups since they were invented.
what is your experience in the business that gives you the understanding that I don't understand it?
(being a surfer doesn't count) :1orglaugh

see surfer, this is why you don't understand.
your example is meaningless (again)
let me dumb it down so you understand.
If you own a store that sells magazines would you allow people to come in and read them for free? No you wouldn't. If the only payment you charged was for them to look at an advertisement, it wouldn't appear to be unreasonable. It would only seem unreasonable if someone gave you blinders and told you you didn't have to see the advertisement (after all, those magazines should be free, screw the fact that they cost the store owner money). The store owner would then have the right to slap the blinders off your face when you entered his store.

Now if thats not dumbed down enough for you, replace "store" with "website"
"magazine" with "content" and "advertisement" with "popup"
(that's about as dumbed down as I can go)

anyone can *guess* which is all you've done.

It's not up to the surfer what they want when they go to someone's website. It's up to the site owner. if you don't like popups, don't go to the site. its that simple unless you're there to steal content.



can this really be said by a kid posting from mommy's house?

nah, I say "this business" like its the multi billion dollar business it is. (its hard to believe from your perspective but then, I'll bet a lot of things are):1orglaugh

a lot of money is made through KP

a lot of money is made through child labour

a lot of money is made through snuff

a lot of money is stolen from others through criminal acts


... so these are ok with you as well?

yeah, they are exactly the same thing

No they are not and I was not suggesting that.

But they are all exploitive - as are popups.

It's the mindset of forcing someone vs earning their interest/patronage.

The internet has incredible potential, but the one complaint I hear again and again has to do with sites which 'assault' their visitors.

Many web surfers admit they are afraid/reluctant to use the internet solely because of this.

Tools have been developed to help protect them.

And, in the spirit of 'if we want your opinion, we will give it to you', 'assaulters' are bent on breaking these tools.

dear idiot surfer, you were suggesting that and popups are not "exploitive"

yeah, kinda like forcing someone to pay for their groceries instead of just letting them pay if they feel like it.
imbecile

imagining that an exit pop or any other pop is an assault is childish at best.
"oh, please don't make me look at that ad! I feel so violated"
:1orglaugh
I'll wait while you find a link to this info and see how they quantify "many"
otherwise, we'll just figure you're lying to make a point.

no, tools have been developed to let them steal content.

as the police are bent on stopping theives.

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Originally posted by GatorB
No you are just too obtuse to understand it.
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i guess this punk ran away when it was time to put up or shut up.:1orglaugh

WTF? Punk? Run away? WTF does your idiotic quoting of yourself have to do with ANYTHING? I like how you use smilies since YOU are the ONLY one to find your posts amusing. Can anyone translate 12milimeterdick's posts because I can't see how they are gemain to this topic?

Don't sweat it.

Just consider him another unwanted popup.

He just keep launching himself when you try to close the window.

I'd pretend that my experience in this biz and with popups wasn't "germain" to this topic too if I didn't have any.:1orglaugh

oh, and you're right, the smilies are there because I enjoy dicking with halfwits.

Now answer the question, punk.
what experience do you have with popups that makes you think anything that falls out of my mouth on the subject could possibly be wrong?
:1orglaugh

good one, surfer.:1orglaugh

I think people are getting away from the real issue here:

There's nothing wrong with pop-ups, selling thru exit consoles, etc.

The issue is when someone has specifically set up their system to block such things, if (essentially) hacking their system to force something which they have specifically made clear that they don't want/object to gets "shoved in their face".

I know some pop-unders that work well but XP SP2 firewall catches it.

But it still works .. odd

show me this city or mall where you walk outside and don't see advertisements on billboards & buses & other store windows...I GOT to find this neat lil eutopia...

don't be a tease....post it ;)

Listen up MORON. What are you RIGHT about? Or what am I wrong about? WTF is your deal? Try keeping up with the POINT of this thread. I do not believe that anyone( at least not I ) questioned whether pop-ups make money or not. That's not even WTF we are talkling about. It's about the ethics of popping them up when a surfer specifically has it set up to where he doesn't want them. The fact that you can make money doing that doesn't make it right to do it. Of course I suspect that the word ETHICS is not in your vanacular.

I'm talking about a clerk FORCING and advertisement in your face. try reading. Here let me help.

http://hookedonphonics.com

When you walk onto a public street (internet) and your sensitive eyes stumble upon an advertisement is that FORCING you to see something?

I'm thinking yes...you are walking around with your eyes open...

Moving your eyes away from the ads so as to not see them is akin to closing a popup down, I'm not talking about CJ style shit here, let's not get off on that tangent...

Exactly :thumbsup

It's any 'unwanted surfing experience' that is at issue here - whatever form it takes on (popups, popunders, popintos, popouts).

When my visitor says NO I understand it to mean NO and I respect it.

-Dino

would be nice of the major TV networks would quit showing me bleeding vagina products during lunch...or dinner...but I don't expect that to happen anytime soon


if everyone thought the way you did, the world would be a nicer place, on this we agree

Listen try READING the anology I presented. Going into a store = going to a website. Walking down the street does NOT = shopping or surfing a website. Do you aimlessly wander around the net? Um no.

Of course. And we do have our preferred channels (some of this is influenced by what they offer and how).

BUT, when I change channels on my TV, it does NOT switch back to the channel I came from or to another one I never even asked for.

That's a big difference between TV and unwanted popups.

Both have ads, banners, etc. But you can still change the channel without fear of being bushwacked.

-Dino

so then you're going to continue to dodge the question of you having any experience.
I figured that, surfer.

now onto your inability to understand ethics.
It is unethical to go to someone's website take what they have to offer, and block their means to make money off of it.

this is what you dopey surfers don't understand.

wrong, surfer. the real issue is someone taking what your website has to offer and then blocking your means to pay for it.

your dopey argument is the same as saying a business has no right to charge you for merchandise if you can find a way around paying for it.