Starting out with AVS today?
 

A couple months back I started working with a traffic stream that many said didn't work anymore. Four months later it seems to be doing just fine for me.

So, my question is... if I started building and submitting AVS sites tonight, would they still make "decent" money after 4-5 months of consistent submitting?

while avs systems be work.

i can reccomend you use these 2 programms for this:


http://www.goldxpass.com/webmaster/?tolik


http://bxdx.com/cgi-bin/signup.cgi?ID=155

As long as you're a consistent builder, you can reap the rewards. Excellent conversions but the internal linklist traffic is low compared to many other traffic sources. To make the most of it, you need to work both the front & back end.

Don't need to build all day. Promote all day instead.

internal linklist traffic - 100% of people who already payed per porn via internet.

psyhical barrier broken for these people - they pay once - they be paying more.

atleast at some of my old amateur sites i still have 1:5-10 ratio at sponsors (banner+desc in avs site member area)

use only freeavs's..

the rest suck balls

OMG - someone give this guy the Dipshit of the Century Award!

Wanna make real money? Build a few CyberAge sites that convert then work the shit out of them. Get a steady stream of rebills and take the next year or two off.

Anyone that chooses a free system over a premium system either has shitty traffic or is a shitty site builder.

Exactly. Some of the best traffic out there, just wish there was more of it :glugglug

the main problem is that most avs linklists have a billion sites and the traffic volume you get is minimal from most of them

whats your average retentention (#months)?

Sure.

A long time but I've never actually figured it out. They seem to either quit the same day or stay forever. All I know for sure is that even though I make sales, I don't really need to. :)

The problem also with recurring is if ever there's an industry change concerning AVS.. or the AVS program you are using pull the plug.. you are toast.. Usually pay per signup will pay you for 2.5 months average retention..

Wrong info here buddy. I see our sales history everyday. THAT IS SO WRONG.

Need help setting up, we've been around since 96 and the system works.

Thank you buddy, very well said. :thumbsup

Precisely

While I am not doing much AVS stuff presently, I still make some ok money off of Cyberage.

Dave's program is the best I have found. :thumbsup

Thanks buddy, that is what I like to hear.

Why do VISA policies and such affect other AVS's but not ALL ? What's the difference between say Adultcheck, Site Pass, or some of the remaining open AVS systems ?

Some may be hesitant to invest a significant recurring income strategy with an AVS company as a result.

use adult check they have been around forever!

take your money up front..

1. recurrings are basically in control of the program operator..should that operator have CB issues you lose all your recurrings.

2. AVS is very gray area..should visa clamp down on AVS, you would then again lose all your recurrings.

Risk VS Reward..in doing recurrings in a regular program that is somewhat debateable, doing them in an AVS and you are borderline retarded.

That said..good luck!

http://www.adultsallowed.com/wm/index.php/1937

free hosting, free content, good convertions, good retentions, high payouts

:thumbsup

Care to post us the webmaster signup page for AdultCheck?:winkwink:

I am so glad you brought up this point, brujah. When Adult Check and the Judas Webmasters made the big change, we were told that this was because VISA would pull the plug w/o them... And yet, CyberAge makes minimal changes (still processing.) ProAdult makes fewer changes (still processing.) It's time for AC and their chosen few webmasters to admit what they really are... Crooks who are more than willing to stab 5000+ other webmasters in the back.

Here you go:

http://wesuckbigcocks.com/wealsofuckwebmasters.html

yup, like has been said it is about promotion these days. Promotion and finding a few niches to work the ass off of until you can't work it any more :)

My concern would be, say if a person built 100 avs sites. then a month later the avs system decides to impose new changes that are IMPOSSILE to do within the aloted 3 seconds they give you. Sound familiar avs guys?

I pretty much only use CyberAge these days just because I don't really have time to do sites for more than them but whenever they have changed rules they have given weeks, if not months for people to change things.

as someone said, all u have to do is to promote it all day.

I can see why you're not making money. You just don't know anything.

I like that part, because its so true.

:glugglug

btw, does most AVS's accept different kinds of
pics or do you need sets?

Well then you have to build 10 billion sites :1orglaugh

Go with micro-niches.

What makes you better than cybersexnetwork or netverifier...?
Their commission plans are significantly higher that yours...

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I agree. Cybersexnetwork is *so* much better than that shit of his. He should probably take a lesson or two from it's owner about better payouts. :winkwink:

CyberAge
ProAdult



:thumbsup

I have no problem with Netverifier, good choice there, and we own CyberSexNetwork too. Along with UGAS.com too.

So any of these are good.

I advertise CyberAge here that is why I said CyberAge, its the most common one.

One has better payouts and the other has higher click thur payouts. Its the same company, but thanks for the props. I should take a lesson from its owners. Let me go see if I can find them. :1orglaugh

if cyberage wasn't good I would spend all my AVS energy on them. The rebills are fantastic. Just find your niche and promote on more that their link list is what I would say.

Hey Dave. Does it still take 3 years to approve (or decline) someone's application? I believe I sent mine about 3 years ago and I'm still waiting for the outcome. Send couple of e-mails back then - no reply whatrsoever. Thanks but no thanks.

Dave,

answer me this..

how long have you owned cyberage?

show me the errors in my quote please..

teach me oh great one!





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Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
use adult check they have been around forever!

take your money up front..

1. recurrings are basically in control of the program operator..should that operator have CB issues you lose all your recurrings.

2. AVS is very gray area..should visa clamp down on AVS, you would then again lose all your recurrings.

Risk VS Reward..in doing recurrings in a regular program that is somewhat debateable, doing them in an AVS and you are borderline retarded.

That said..good luck!
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I can see why you're not making money. You just don't know anything.