That is the problem with Cyberage, the "secret handshake" AVS. It is hugs and kisses for those who keep in "touch" with them 24/7 but you'll find yourself in a world of pain if you are looking for clear, open rulels that apply to everyone. Rude reviewers too. I do agree that once in, a premium site can generate a very constant income flow. But it is still NOT worth it in the end. The whole appeal process is WAAAAAYYYY to time consuming and not professional because not based on set, strict rules that are open to read for everyone. Basically everything goes on a "case by case" basis. I rather know exactly where I am at, and whether a site is going to get accepted or not, BEFORE I even send that site to them. Standard with other AVS'

Those who love Cyberage just confirm what I said above. Hugs and kisses for some, not so nice for the rest

what makes you choose cyberage over Cybersexnetwork ? Pay per click? I cant believe that makes it worth it...

and how's retention for both Cyberage and cybersexnetwork ? About the same?

Proadult claims to retain members on average for 8-9 months... I'll believe that if they can guarantee me at least 7 ! :1orglaugh

I thought Jack owned cyberage?

I own 2 avs's..i just wouldnt recommend someone putting a lot of time into starting them without knowing the risks.

heck try and take an avs system to ccbill for processing..they wont even accept them..unless they have changed recently.

If you know what your doing, and you know how to work them, they are very profitable..BUT if you are going to invest a ton of time into them, use it to figure out google and adwords etc..not avs..


if you want me to blow smoke up your butt, I can send my lackeys over to this thread..

looks like a good thread is coming

your just taking a double risk with a recurring based avs..

if you know that risk and promise NOT to cry if you lose your recurrings..then go for it..


I really dont care, Im not here promoting mine :)

Just know the risks

well, the most honest answer I will give you is that I started with CyberAge and didn't move over. However, the per click does really add up if you have enough sites plus the middle page bonus on the lower level sites really does add up if you are adding sites on a regular basis. Plus, there is no rule to say you can't add your site to both networks.

To be honest... that was my thought aswell.

Im off to the beach..gonna fire up my metal detector and try and make some money!


Ill check back later if I remember.

Just know your risks..when adult check went under a lot of people were crying and surprised.

In no way am I saying cyberage is in any trouble, I think they are a great system, but there are risks involved with recurring and with AVS style systems.

These are all just my opinions..and they are worth what you paid for them!


:2 cents:

Chris which ones do you own? I forget. Wasn't it Sexy AVS or something?

By the way, I'm certainly not interested in starting up my own AVS system. I'm more interested in building and submitting sites to them. I have an assload of content sitting here that I may want to turn into a premium site.

Dave and Jack are partners & TTI does all it's processing in house. They have their own processing company www.cnwb.com - www.clearcard.com.

It's best to use multiple AVS's - some traffic converts better with free, some with premium. Using one front end isn't capitalizing the profitability of your traffic.

and I fly dave's banner as a favor for a friend - not for any pissant sig money.

Sly,

If you have a site, with traffic, then do it.

But dont go in thinking you are going to suddenly get tons of hits and tons of signups.

The best site for getting traffic is sexkey. They would send the most hits of any avs system when we used to push ours.

hopefully this will set off hank's board tracker and he can come tell you more..

the beach is calling..

Also, I have no problem with cyberage at all and they are a very nice system and one of the OG's..

but know your risks of AVS..

And if Dave will explain more I would love to continue the discussion.

after I work on my tan..

and try and make some money! I have a lemonade stand out front.

Premium AVS sites can be promoted and run exactly like it would be your own paysite... Instead of CCbill.. your processor is the AVS... You might make a little less.. but from what I've heard. it retains better.. Who cares about the link list...

BT only monitors the first post of a thread

While your at the beach, I'll be at White Lotus setting up for the party. Anybody else change their minds and want to come down and mingle with about 80 other GFYers and have drink, remembe. GFYers are comped. Just ask for me at front.

Can can get into this thread later.

Thanks everyone.

David,
I left you a little love note.


*kiss*

Avs are not NEARLY as big as they used to be . I guess they should convert better as they aren't over exposed now

This turned out to be a very informational thread, thanks guys. Looks like I have some things to check into this week.

good thread deserves a bump