How many of you thought Grimshawn was cool?
 

and do you still think so, after he fucked over wired guy for 12K and took off with the money?

how many of you know the story?

did grimshawn do this all alone? why did he turn to such methods if everyone thought he was so cool, and gave him so much "business"?

How many times did I tell you he was a shithead? how many times did I warn you about smokey?

I am not a bullshitter folks start paying attention....:winkwink:

hmmm I did not hear about this one :(

I dont know him, but it doesn't surprise me.

didn't hear about the story.

sad if true.

Its a shame to see things like this go down. But this is how things have always been in this biz. Someone is always screwing someone else. Not much you can do but look out for yourself.

wow wtf ?

anyone know more?

12k? damn fuck

WOW my pc blows up on Friday night i miss GFY all weekend and get back here to hear THIS?

WTF?????

need more info :warning

I thought he started his own message board and was blingin? yikes.

well i know some webmasters have money issues with Grim,but i never got the $ figure. Now i see the amount is pretty high I worry more..

WTF?! I think we need more info

did not hear about that... 12k damn

he stole $12k?

why/when ?

what in the fuck happened, thats fucked up seriously if true, I am not doubting you 1 bit but LIKE WHOA Wired Guy seems as cool as a cat

Yep, he " borrowed " 12K from wiredguy for a venture in the goth market setting up a sponsor program like ameila G, rictor, and not sure who else does the goth thing...

but then he did a dissapearing act.....

not sure if he acted alone or not, that part is still a bit scetchy..


some say yes he was alone, others say he was not alone in this....

Charles are you around to clear this up for us?

thats crackheaded mentality at its finest. Hmm come to think of it, haven't seen him here much

I dunno honestly I've done business with him and he was a great guy, sent couple guys over me too ... dunno

can WG comment im very curious

ugh this is bad drama

I consider Shawn to be a friend.

Haven't heard from him in a long time.

Hopefully he will find a way to come clean with everything.


Sorry WG:(

Likewise, Joe why are you doing the press release on this? Curious

very surprising.. is wiredguy around to speak up?

Why would he disapear with 12k ... that's nothing ... I really don't understand people sometimes . You work hard all thoses years to build up a reputation, then steal 12 fucking thousand $ and get teh fuck out ... wtf

Did Grim ever contact WG? And I thought it was $7k?

I remember you going on about this months ago. Where did you get the "inside information"?

Good luck to everyone involved. It's a crazy situation.

There are scammers all around.

Good looking out Joesho.

It could be a warning to others ?? Sometimes also guys who get taken feel bad enough about it, so they dont talk. I personally like Shawn, and have done business with him when he was with Max Hardcore but not since.

I hear ya man, just curious thats all, good looking out for sure

it has been released already, just not here...
and I knew grimshawn was a fuckhead from the day I met him... liars, will always lie may not be to you at first, but eventually your turn comes around if you deal with them long enough....

I am just pointiong out that for those who thougfht I was wrong to dismiss grimshawn as a fraud, or smokey as the board culprit responsible for exploiting us once a week or more... (notice smokey's famous HTML exploits are no longer here too)

I feel the need for vindication, as many of you think I say contraversial things about "respected people" in the industry, when the truth is how I play, and when I am just trying to issue a warning...

so this is more of a pleasant I told ya so, rather than a press release... Plus I would like to know the whole story rather than pieces of it... especially if there were others involved or not in the set up.

yep doesnt make sense for me to loose the reputation for this amount...

he's a cool guy.. helped me with some things:)

Good stuff:glugglug

screwings are not limited to just this biz sadly enough.

exactly. Wasting years of building up a reputation to steal $12k. That's pretty stupid...

people have done crazier things

See shit like this further proves my main point.

You cannot trust people just because you get drunk with them at parties.

In fact, I feel that thats how most peple get fucked out of larger funds, this is a prime example.

Grim Shawn has invited me out many times, I never accepted for whatever reasons. Now this.

This is exactly why I dont run out and hang with people.

No way will I associate with people like this off board and come to find out shit like this afterwards, fuck all that.

Play the game straight, last couple days have been nothing but amazing with the level of drama.

That's fucked up if true.
Getting screwed sucks..... i'm waiting on a payment of over $40K which is taking way too long.
I'll come and get my money if I don't get it soon.
More people should do this......... way too many scammers get away with this shit.

interesting. Would like to hear WG or Shawns take on this.

not if building the reputation, was to be known for the party, rather than the substance of your abilities...

then by all means the longer the ride, the more fun it was for him.. and most people like this usually do not care what happens to the others involved anyway...

sorry this hapened to you wiredguy...
you are truely a good guy, and a straight business man from what I can see....

Please enlighten us as to how this all went down...

is it just me or are you way to fucking full of yourself? and let wiredguy speak for himself on the situation rather than you spreading his biz for him just so you can pump your own ego you fucking tard.

Parties are to party and meet people for possible new business. Not conduct business. :2 cents:

For those of you asking for comments from WG, there are several threads about this issue on another board.

Also, anyone notice how Amelia G was all buddy buddy with grim on the boards and shit?

If this is true, he totally just moved in, and has obviously tried to use some people along the way.

I doubt Amelia G would be too nice to him if she knew he had been trying to maybe use her for ideas or connections.

This is a dirty game, as dirty as any and this is exactly why id never just go to a bar and party with them. Nothing but idea stealers, crooks, and people who obviously cannot do things themselves and the only way they can climb is to fuck over and step on the folks who befriend them and maybe even offer them advice.

Now he's gonna start a goth site?

gimme a break.

fuck that shit. Let me boost my ego.