alicia keys is a fraud
 

yes its true.. i feel bad because i liked her too.. :(

if anyone cares i'll post my evidence

i don't give a shit..

but post evidence anyways. i'm bored.

like milli vanilli (sp?) type fraud?

I agree. Post it...

i really feel ripped off because i respected her alot as a talent.. she still has great talent but not as much as i thought now after hearing this..

ok here's my evidence.. it comes from a Single from 1966 by a Soul group called "The Main Ingredient" the song in question is their song "Let Me Prove My Love To You"..

now if you're familiar with Alicia Keys hit song "You Dont Know My Name", you wont have to download the mp3 im posting of it.. but help yourself anyway..

please listen to the song from 1966 then Alicia Keys' song.

1966 - The Main Ingredient - Let Me Prove My Love To You

2003 - Alicia Keys - You Dont Know My Name

post your thoughts

btw listen to the whole song from 1966

Im no musical expert, but isnt the beginning of the alicia keys song taken completely from a riff in the older '66 track?

i once had sex with her. she was not good. i want my money back

fucking fruads! i hate them

black people call this 'sampling'

scarey! i was just wondering what happend to you and that guy in your sig yesterday! and poof! here you are! lol

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

yeah rooster, but supposedly shes a musical genius.. i held her musical talents in high regard..

masta flash is forever.. recignize

PEACE OUT!

this isnt p diddy or the neptunes, shes winning awards for this shit..

lol, it seems there's not much in the way of new music these days. especially it seems on the radio and the rap/r&b genres. sometimes the remix hits the radio before the original song does. everybody uses everybody's lyrics and songs. it's kinda lame.

hell, look back at 'house of the rising sun'. it was a rip from leadbelly in the early 1900's or whatever.

Eminem stole whole songs from Led Zeppelin and mixed others . All rap songs are just sample nowdays from old tracks . Music became masturbation and nothing new is beeing created . We just dont know because we dunno shit about music anymore.

Its all good - she just pulled a p-diddy there.

I thought she had most of her acclaim for singing, not for the piano?

Neptunes are actually musical geniouses ... I think they are brigning things to a new level . Alicia keys didnt bring shit . And Djs like Jazzy Jeff and other commercial rappers have won grammies ... Even lil john won a grammy for GET LOW . Awards are all bullshit nowdays and this isnt about the creation but more the commercial success as nothing new is getting created.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh To every newer hip-hop or rb song there is a classic being ripped off

its the combination of singing, piano, musical style, and soulful style that made her seem so great in terms of music..


track 3 on her album is also a Gladys Knighht song "if i was your woman"

There is still some new and interesting shit out there, Dizee Rascal in England has some weird fucked up rap that I definitely never heard in the states.

Its not just hip hop or r&b its the whole musical world . Only couple guys really start something from scratch . If a hit was successfull in the 70s then its still gonna be succesfull now if you market it right . Right now hip hop is the best marketing . Dre and eminem are getting sued all the time for sample . Same for p diddy.

who cares...who doesn't sample these days?

Yea that guy is really starting to get talked about . I seen his clip once at first when it went out and I was like WOAH . My friend started saying he was a fucking small rapper and wed never hear about him anymore ... now hes big as fuck in UK.

doctor dre, can you agree that the whole alicia keys phenom is flawed now that you've heard this? i'm big into hiphop so sampling is no big deal, but i thought her music was original.. fooled me.

She's gay. And no, I'm not being a smartass. I think I read that all her people are having a stroke trying to keep it covered up.

I liked her first song better anyways :2 cents:

fallin' wasn't overly original either.

White people call it sampling to, Vanilla Ice!

i was waiting for a black dude to say something like that

I dunno I never liked her or found her original ... and off course shes sampling. Everybody does

would Alicia Keys ripping James Brown off in Fallin' be considered a balck on black crime...

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agree. all rap songs aren't original.

If i'm not mistaken kanye west produce this track for her

If thats the case, Kanye takes alot of old school stuff but does some nice remixes of it.

Every musician that has ever tried to write a song has accidently semi rewrote another song. It may take a friend to say hey that sounds like the eagles or what ever before they realise they ripped off same cords or riff. Try write a new riff today that hasnt been already recorded or stream a few cords together your probably playing someone elses song.

I thought Alicia Keys whole thing was that she was inspired by classic R&B and modern hip hop, and was a classically trained pianist?

Thats exactly what I am hearing.

Are you also going to point out that in "Piano and I" that she ripped off Beethoven's "Moonlight Sonata"?

She has original songs, and sampled songs... doesn't take anything away from her talent.

oh well, I'll still listen to her :)

I've heard the same exact thing about Fallin'.. that it's a rip of moonlight sonata... but....

listen to "It's a Man's, Man's World" by James Brown....

see if it sounds familiar.