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sickkittens 11-11-2003 07:07 PM

would you be/are you an organ donor?
 
would you be/are you an organ donor?

C_U_Next_Tuesday 11-11-2003 07:24 PM

yes

OzMan84 11-11-2003 07:30 PM

yes for both:)

cezam 11-11-2003 07:31 PM

i offer my organs to highest bidder :Graucho

SpaceAce 11-11-2003 07:34 PM

I am. I make sure my family knows it, too, otherwise that little sticker on your driver's license is worthless.

SpaceAce

Tala 11-11-2003 07:37 PM

yes. Whatever is needed, 'cause I sure as hell won't need it anymore.

My husband wants his entire body donated to science.

buddyjuf 11-11-2003 07:37 PM

for sure :thumbsup

Wilbo 11-11-2003 07:38 PM

yes

KMR Stitch 11-11-2003 07:40 PM

Yes, I am.

Furious_Female 11-11-2003 08:09 PM

Yes I am an organ donor.

quiet 11-11-2003 08:09 PM

yep

twistyneck 11-11-2003 08:12 PM

No. If you donate your organs when you die, everyone along the way will make money from removing, handling, transporting, and implanting the organ. Everyone that is except your family. The money in the organ/transplant business is insane and not a dime of it goes back to the family of the donor. Fuck that.

HEARTBREAKER 11-11-2003 08:12 PM

i would if somebody needs it...

SureFire 11-11-2003 08:14 PM

yes

SpaceAce 11-11-2003 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
No. If you donate your organs when you die, everyone along the way will make money from removing, handling, transporting, and implanting the organ. Everyone that is except your family. The money in the organ/transplant business is insane and not a dime of it goes back to the family of the donor. Fuck that.
Yes, knowing your organs could save someone's father, mother, brother, wife or child you would rather let your organs rot in the dirt just to spite the middleman. What an impressively unenlightened attitude.

SpaceAce

twistyneck 11-11-2003 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce


Yes, knowing your organs could save someone's father, mother, brother, wife or child you would rather let your organs rot in the dirt just to spite the middleman. What an impressively unenlightened attitude.

SpaceAce

More enlightened than you know. Why should the family of the donor get nothing while tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars are being moved around. Couldn't 1% be skimmed off for the donor family to show some fucking gratitude?

SpaceAce 11-11-2003 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck


More enlightened than you know. Why should the family of the donor get nothing while tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars are being moved around. Couldn't 1% be skimmed off for the donor family to show some fucking gratitude?

Why should a sick human being die because you don't want someone else to make a buck? That is <B>un</B>enlightened, not enlightened. It doesn't matter how many ways you spin it, you look like an asshole. You are punishing the group who needs the organs for the actions of a completely different group of people. Should I come punch you in the face when a waiter spills hot coffee on me? That makes exactly as much sense as what you're saying.

SpaceAce

bushwacker 11-11-2003 08:27 PM

I am an organ donor, but i hope i don't have to donate anytime soon:)

twistyneck 11-11-2003 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce


Why should a sick human being die because you don't want someone else to make a buck? That is <B>un</B>enlightened, not enlightened. It doesn't matter how many ways you spin it, you look like an asshole. You are punishing the group who needs the organs for the actions of a completely different group of people. Should I come punch you in the face when a waiter spills hot coffee on me? That makes exactly as much sense as what you're saying.

SpaceAce

When the organ removal guys work for free, when the doctors work for free, when the airlines transport the organs for free, when the transplant patient receives a bill for $0, I'll be the first to sign up.

Why shouldn't the donor family get anything? That doesn't make sense at all. If they didn't want the money they could donate it to charity.

quiet 11-11-2003 08:33 PM

And now the wheels of heaven stop
You feel the devil's riding crop
Get ready for the future
It is murder

great song. Leonard Cohen kicks ass.

twistyneck 11-11-2003 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
And now the wheels of heaven stop
You feel the devil's riding crop
Get ready for the future
It is murder

great song. Leonard Cohen kicks ass.

I love that song. Leonard Cohen is one of the most under-rated, under-appreciated artists out there IMHO.

SpaceAce 11-11-2003 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck


When the organ removal guys work for free, when the doctors work for free, when the airlines transport the organs for free, when the transplant patient receives a bill for $0, I'll be the first to sign up.

Why shouldn't the donor family get anything? That doesn't make sense at all. If they didn't want the money they could donate it to charity.

You just keep saying the same thing over and over and it still doesn't matter. One day you may get to watch someone you care about die a slow death because the perfect tissue match took his heart to his grave with him just to "teach a lesson" to the middlemen. Congratulations, you kept a few thousand dollars out of someone's pocket and buried someone you loved. I guess that's a good trade in your world.

You can reply 800 times with 800 variations of your theme and it still comes down to the same thing: you're punishing people who have nothing to do with the system you are trying to spite. One day you may be sitting next to that hospital bed waiting for that last-minute life-saving phone call and if you don't get it, you'll know why: there's another you out there somewhere.

SpaceAce

twistyneck 11-11-2003 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce


You just keep saying the same thing over and over and it still doesn't matter. One day you may get to watch someone you care about die a slow death because the perfect tissue match took his heart to his grave with him just to "teach a lesson" to the middlemen. Congratulations, you kept a few thousand dollars out of someone's pocket and buried someone you loved. I guess that's a good trade in your world.

You can reply 800 times with 800 variations of your theme and it still comes down to the same thing: you're punishing people who have nothing to do with the system you are trying to spite. One day you may be sitting next to that hospital bed waiting for that last-minute life-saving phone call and if you don't get it, you'll know why: there's another you out there somewhere.

SpaceAce

And you still haven't answered the question: Why shouldn't the donor family be paid?

dennisthemenace 11-11-2003 08:40 PM

I'm a donor

IntenseCash 11-11-2003 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck


When the organ removal guys work for free, when the doctors work for free, when the airlines transport the organs for free, when the transplant patient receives a bill for $0, I'll be the first to sign up.

Why shouldn't the donor family get anything? That doesn't make sense at all. If they didn't want the money they could donate it to charity.

Not sure anyone would want your organs after your attitude towards it anyway. What makes you think doctors or airlines make billions on transporting or implanting organs anyway?


I am definitely a donor, if I can help someone live even a day longer so family and friends could say goodbye, then I know I have done good by doing so.

twistyneck 11-11-2003 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IntenseCash


Not sure anyone would want your organs after your attitude towards it anyway. What makes you think doctors or airlines make billions on transporting or implanting organs anyway?


I am definitely a donor, if I can help someone live even a day longer so family and friends could say goodbye, then I know I have done good by doing so.

I know as a fact that the money in the organ business is huge. I know people that do it for a living, fuck, you would not believe the cash they make while the donor families get nothing.

SpaceAce 11-11-2003 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck

And you still haven't answered the question: Why shouldn't the donor family be paid?

Here's a clue: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=donate

It's a moot point, anyway. The organs are useless to the dead person and their family. What does whether or not they get paid have to do with anything? Let's say they pay you. Who do you think is <B>really</B> paying you? The same person who gets the organ, that's who. Cost is passed along just like in any industry. Double congratulations, you squeezed a few more nickles out of a dying person. You must feel great.

Basic facts:
1) You don't need them
2) Someone else probably does
3) Spiteful selfishness still won't get you paid
4) Some day it could be you

SpaceAce

sacX 11-11-2003 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck

And you still haven't answered the question: Why shouldn't the donor family be paid?

yes I am an organ donor.

So you're all for creating a market in the trade of organs? nice.

twistyneck 11-11-2003 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by sacX


yes I am an organ donor.

So you're all for creating a market in the trade of organs? nice.

The market already exists. It is a HUGE fucking industry. The ONLY people that don't get paid are the families of the dead guy and perhaps the odd hospital or doctor that donates an operation now and again.

Odin88 11-11-2003 08:46 PM

I am currently a donar for everything possible. The sick will have a party when I die :thumbsup

IntenseCash 11-11-2003 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck

And you still haven't answered the question: Why shouldn't the donor family be paid?

Why in the hell should a family of the donor be paid? Its called doing a good thing.

Its like asking a charity that you gave your clothes to that were just sitting in your closet, money back because you gave them clothes.

twistyneck 11-11-2003 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce


Here's a clue: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=donate

It's a moot point, anyway. The organs are useless to the dead person and their family. What does whether or not they get paid have to do with anything? Let's say they pay you. Who do you think is <B>really</B> paying you? The same person who gets the organ, that's who. Cost is passed along just like in any industry. Double congratulations, you squeezed a few more nickles out of a dying person. You must feel great.

Basic facts:
1) You don't need them
2) Someone else probably does
3) Spiteful selfishness still won't get you paid
4) Some day it could be you

SpaceAce

By your logic nobody should get paid. I'd go for that. Short of that happening, which it never will, everyone should get a cut.

twistyneck 11-11-2003 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IntenseCash


Why in the hell should a family of the donor be paid? Its called doing a good thing.

Its like asking a charity that you gave your clothes to that were just sitting in your closet, money back because you gave them clothes.

Yeah, okay, that's why doctors work for free.

SpaceAce 11-11-2003 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck


By your logic nobody should get paid. I'd go for that. Short of that happening, which it never will, everyone should get a cut.

Yes, it would be nice if everyone did it for free but it isn't going to happen. There are also a lot of differences between the donor and everyone else in between.

Your body has no overhead once it's dead. You didn't invest money in your organs and it's not going to cost you anything to give them away. It's silly to hang on to them. <B>You don't need them</B>. It's that simple. You'll get nothing either way, so you might as well do a good deed.

By <I>your</I> logic no one should donate anything.

SpaceAce

Dugan 11-11-2003 08:52 PM

yep, already am

sacX 11-11-2003 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck


The market already exists. It is a HUGE fucking industry. The ONLY people that don't get paid are the families of the dead guy and perhaps the odd hospital or doctor that donates an operation now and again.

there's a big difference between costs of a transplant, and getting money for the specific organ.

SureFire 11-11-2003 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck


Yeah, okay, that's why doctors work for free.

Hey, family can?t get back the family member they lost, and I doubt they want compensation organs for whom they lost so why not be a donor and help someone else out? Doctors are just doing their job which usually means getting a pay check.

invertiga 11-11-2003 09:01 PM

I need my organs for the afterlife

Loryn 11-11-2003 09:02 PM

I am an organ donor. What the hell am I going to do with them if I am dead? You might as well give them to someone who can use them, instead of wasting them. I sure as hell know I would want someone?s organs if I was lying in a bed almost dead.

twistyneck 11-11-2003 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SureFire


Hey, family can?t get back the family member they lost, and I doubt they want compensation organs for whom they lost so why not be a donor and help someone else out? Doctors are just doing their job which usually means getting a pay check.

If they don't want the money they can sign a form and give it to charity. No big deal. If doctors really wanted to do the right thing, they could do it for about 1/2 the price and cheer everyone right the fuck up. The problem of course is that Ferraris ain't getting any cheaper and golf course memberships don't grow on trees.


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