PR Question
 

How much would you pay for link on a PR7 page and how much on a PR8 page?

$0.00 :thumbsup

I agree...

get your own PR7 or PR8...thats my vote.

You can do that with SEGuru.Net .

When I was in London, we met another one of our members...and he told me of a PR8 they got out of SEGuru.Net and that his company placed a value of about $50K on that domain.

Yeah baby! It also enabled to to get some SERIOUS rankings for their primary gaming terms.

We just added a new 3 day trial so you can check us out.

My vote, get your own PR domains (if thats what's important to you) instead of continually giving away "ad" dollars.

Invest in yourself, thats my motto!

and this is commin from a guy who knows wtf he is talking about.. might as well buy that 3 day trial right now and get it over with:thumbsup

I wasn't planning on attending your seminar in Vancouver but I think after that response I definetely will. :thumbsup

DH

God, your cheap! I would pay 10 x that

Really guys...I know there's a lot of noise on this board.

If there's one piece of advice I could offer...in all seriousness, is to invest in yourself.

At least diversify your positions to include YOU.

I've learned some hard lessons in this business, and some of that just plain includes learning new skill sets to help me further myself towards my goal.

Whether you are looking for the quickest way to traffic or not, you should at least pursue this goal in the smartest, most efficent way for long term benefit to you, the engine and most importantly the end user.

To pay an ongoing exhorbitant monthly advertising bill and get only the benefit of that relationship for only the duration of your payment...is not necessarily the best approach to make.

If you diversify your approach, then maybe you could acquire a domain that suits what you are paying someone else for...and guess what...you pay for linking off that domain 1 timeand by only buying the domain. You benefit for as long as you own the domain now.

Work smarter, not harder.
;-)

As to the Vancouver Boot Camp, you are all welcome. Get signed up today though, you need to guarantee your seat before you get there. ;-)

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awesome info..i cant wait till vancouver

Hey StudMoney.....Get on line please if you have a moment, I want to chat with you!!!!

Thank you!

Vancouver is indeed going to be a treat.

This topic raises a very good point in the timing of the Vancouver Search Engine Boot Camp.

The fact that this question was raised today shows webmasters' desire to do what they can to circumvent any time barrier or algorithm barrier that would keep them between top listing and their traffic.

Whats my point?

MSN = New Crawler and New Algorithm (to be launch soon)

Yahoo = Acquires Inktomi and rumours have it that they will be dropping Google shortly and utilizing that 300 Million Dollar investment.

Yahoo acquires Overture and now dominates the PPC market.

Overture had acquired Fast Search & Transfer and AltaVista.

The full circle nature of Spidering to Pay Model to now come back to have Spidering become much more prominent again means you better have a grasp on your SEO skills for spiders.

Tons of changes in this space and they are going to dictate our methods and tactics on how to get there and posture your self to be spider friendly and potentially on the top of the pile when changes come down.

Timing on this Boot Camp couldn't be better.

If you'd like to register, feel free to: SE Boot Camp Registration

It's almost mid october now, think that rumour we heard is gonna kick in soon?

WG

Rumor mill amongst the other SE teams at the pub seem to think and have heard the 15th.

A pushback to the first week of Nov. may also happen.

Now, you remember when this happened before. It bounced back and forth for a day or so and then BANG. It flipped from an AV backfill to INK backfill.

We've been here before.

We may be able to integrate the new "how-to's" of monetizing Yahoo's new deployment of INK if they have it up in the next few days.

Cross your fingers.

I heard early november myself, it's been too long since I've played with Inktomi's index, gotta get back into the game.

WG

Will the conversation include strews of sexual innuendo and nakedness?

/me is naked right now! hehehehe

Oh no!
WG

You have ICQ?

I do... 28595329

Feel free to hit me up!

What a fuckn spam thread.
You don't need no guru to buy expired domains.

Come online!
:glugglug

I will sell pr8 links for $800 a month pr 7 for $600
These are not on expired domains but current well managed adult domains.An expired domain may not even pass pr after its been registed.

Id buy if i had guarantes..

So they could spend $7200 a year with you and your "advertising" method.

Or...the "invest in yourself" method as noted here: Spend $100 in a month for a membership to a research site such as SEGuru.Net or Brujahs and find your own PR7.

We're developing this domain stats utility right now, but you can note here: http://www.seguru.net/breakdown.php

Today, there are 2 PR7s that dropped into redemption.

So lets do the math...

$100 research site membership
$10 (average domain registration)
$69 SnapNames Backorder if you wanna try and ensure you have first dibs on that name.

Totals $179 versus $7200

Hmmmmmm, now which way would I choose.

Not really a contest here now is it??!?!?!?!?

I was under the impression an inbound high-PR link is only as good as its relevance. Thus adult webmasters would presumably need to obtain expired ADULT domains. So how many PR6+ adult domains expire monthly? And realistically what are the chances of snaring them, ie how fearce is the competition? And once you've acquired a high-PR domain how do you retain the PR?

how does Pool compare to SnapNames ?

With all respect SEGURU is behind the times.
Snapnames are useless and the best two at the moment are pool and namewinner but don't buy all the BS you hear about expired domains.Sure some work but quite alot and its usually the ones left for people like you and me are useless even if they show pr7.
www.adult-webmaster-tools.com/pr which I notice is down at the moment had 2 pr7 domains dropping tomorrow but they are both useless.They will retain their pr but google will not ever visit your those domains because the lbackinks credited to those domains are actually for another domain that the previous owners have.They redirected the expiring domains to their other ones and google see them as the same domain.Once they drop google will still confuse them as the same domain and will not see your new site.
Now that has probably confused you but thats the way it is.
Ask seguru to put up a couple of his pr7's that he has on his list and I will tell you if they are any good.

smsvid
Except when it comes to spamming google I am honest as the day is long.you can contact me at alan at persevered dot com

With all due respect back.

We are very much in tune with whats going on in the world of dropped domains.

Care to visit RainMaker and listen to this last weeks webcast archive in which we had 2 registrars on the show to discuss ICANN, VERISIGN and WLS.

I use numerous sources to attempt name grabs.

Point is, having the tools to quickly and easily determine the worth of an expired.

We do that and do it well.

with all respect back again why don't you post those two pr 7 sites about to go in redemption aor perhaps a couple that are dropping tomorrow so we can have an independent appraisal.
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SEGuru I asked the questions above because I am
interested in the possiblity of using your service.
Is there any chance you could answer? :)

Groove ,though there is merit in google's eyes if a backlink is from a related site(local rank) Pr will still pass and anchor text counts from a completely unrelated site.

I am disappointed you didn't take the challenge seguru.

Ditto :glugglug

Hey Guys,

Sorry I missed the banter. We had appointments in Denver today so I've been out of pocket.

As to your questuion Groove...I will agree with Swami on the aspect regarding anchor text on a "new" domain and passing PR with said anchor text and that currently works like a charm.

You do want to keep things as relevant as possible.

However, I've seen guys take domains that were like a group of letters in a dot com or net. What do they stand for? You can easily find out via the WayBack machine.

However, you can turn a domain like that into a travel domain, with a directory style format?

You might ask yourself...does that work? Does that make money?

As to posting the domains in my system, there's already a guy on this board that does that.

I believe in maintaining the integrity of the service for its paying members.

Take satisfaction in that you can tout I wouldn't take your challenge.

With the lurkers on this board...forget it! You want a look at the domains...there's a 3 day trial.

My members now will thank me for NOT divulging.

What I want to point out to the people here alot of those domains that the guy here posts from your lists are worthless.Even worse than worthless is the fact that they will have to payup to and sometimes more than $600 for pr7's and up in a namewinner or pool auction and the two that were on your list yesterday were as I explained earlier useless for passing pr.
SO BUYER BEWARE!!

SEGuru's service promises nothing other than providing lists of expiring domains with the number of links and their PR's. Acquiring the domain is a battle of course and so is retaining the PR and backlinks but this is independent of the service he provides. If you know what you are doing, then once you get the domain, it shouldn't be hard to retain the PR. The most I've lost from my expired buys (not through SEGuru however) was a -1 penalty which is not bad if you ask me.

WG

This is seguru's own words a few posts back.

Sure some domains are passing PR and sure its worth getting into buying but only if you know which ones and seguru does not tell you which ones cos frankly by the domain he mentioned he bought a month ago he don't know.

SO BUYER BEWARE!

Which domain is that?
WG

:1orglaugh I can't remember now but at the time when he mentioned on this forum that he bought a pr5 I told him it wasn't worth the $9 he spent on it.
Its on record here somewhere.
The point is not all domains that are showing pr actually pass pr on to other sites through backlinks and though it is possible to know which ones I dont think thats made clear to expired domain buyers.The list that wsj68(or something like that) puts up on adult-webmaster-tools.com/pr include in among the high pr6 and 7 list alot of useless domains.
In fact the good pr7 and pr8 domains expiring aren't put on that list at all.
Just as long as everyone knows.There's alot of guys who are rushing in to buy expired domains now without knowing what they are doing and throwing good money after bad .
SO BUYER BEWARE!