swami, love to have a chat with you sometime
hit me up #121258311

SEGuru Does talk a lot of crock some times as anybody doing search engines does. However if you don't have 100 hours a week to continually monitor whats going on in the SE world sites like his sure cut thru all the crap and provide you with the information you need now. I agree fully with him that building your own page rank domains is must at the moment and it's just as easy as finding expired's in my personal opion. I have two full servers ( 512 domains ) of ex PR7 domains that I brought during the expired frenzy :)) all Pr0 now :(

About 4 years ago I attended a panel he was on in Miami, I thought it was shit, did not pick up nothing new, except for this Dmoz thing he was going on about, he kept saying, get listed at Dmoz, become an editor at Dmoz put as many sites as you can at Dmoz. So I built some domains and applyed for a couple of editorships soley on his advise. Within 3 months I had increased my profit by $50k a month.

While replication of this now would be hard as Dmoz is not the force it used to be, it does show how you only need to pick up on one small bit of information and you can make a lot of money.

Buying PR is common at present and what price you pay will depend on how much you can make, I would advise that you don't buy Pr for any domains that you can't afford to lose. Look for domains with genuine Pr and more than 200 incoiming links from seperate hosts.

Personally I think its better to build a site and get it to a Pr4 which is easy and then use this Pr to deep link your other domains. Keep away from really competive keywords and use the mulitude of Pr3 internal pages you can make for your terms,
if your redirecting SE traffic then I would be very very careful at present cos there on your/my ass for it.

Here's an interesting quote from GoogleGuy at webmasterworld.com:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/10036.htm

how much traffic do they get?

since u Own SEGURU.net doesnt that mean u have something set up where you will pick up all the pr7 and pr8 for yourself?

This makes alot of sense.Text and more text is what you need to grab all the 3,4,5 and more word search terms.If you have got pr3 pages thats high enough to get those.I have a site thats had 38000 different search terms this month already,most of them 3 or more word terms.

Groove that quote from Googleguy was back before the big bust and is not applying at the moment

Looking forward to the seminar. I can make the cost back in a few days if I find one little thing that helps so what is the risk? $200

swami
can you contact me
#121258311
or email
kevin @ adultwebmasterworld.com
i'm in OZ as well
Thanks

You got it, was that you that signed up a little earlier tonite?
Looking forward to meeting you!

A few questions:

1) If I buy a high PR domain, what are the chances that it'll lose its value. The only use I have for it really is helping my cloaked pages get indexed. Is it worth it at this point?

2) What about bulk FFA, guestbook and message board posting? Will this help get me indexed better, or is my time better spent elsewhere? I can post to about 20,000 wwwboards at a clip(more if I expand my db).

I haven't put much of this to use but if it's worth investing my time I will :glugglug

PR 50/10

SeGuru,, it would be nice if u'd answer your icq =) i signed up to your website, and have a question

by redirecting do you mean redirecting traffic from a high PR site to another site or is there another redirection that is being penalized?

Hey guys,

I'm logging back on to ICQ. I'm on a damn Wireless card w/Laptop...and everytime the wife gets on the phone...BOOM.

I drop my connection.

Anyway, back on now...she hung up! I really have to strat playing with some of the other channels on this thing.

Shoot me your ICQ Abyss_Vee...I'm not seeing an Auth from ya.

Redirection of the surfer or bot has long been cause for penalization from the Engines and Directories.

*if* you're caught :)
WG

k authorize me now,,, maybe i have the wrong icq is it 28595329 ?

ok, i understand about redirection being penalized by the SEs, but in the context of this post is that what is being said?

i'm not trying to be obtuse, just trying to understand what is being said in this post.

thanks :)

I had noticed the date and realise that expired domains are
retaining their PR at the moment :) But presumably Google will
kill this spam technique at some stage in the not too distant
future, or am I missing something?

And forgive my ignorance, but was the "big bust"?

Auth me...I've got you bud!

Shit...I've had a few to drink...

I heard Sonny and Cher...

"I've got you bud"

LOL

That came just after googleguys post when nearly all domains that had had a previous life within the last 2 years were penalised and lost all their pr regardless of whether they had new links or not.It was about April and May and this will happen again I have no doubt but hopelly not so blunt .
In June pr4 was considered great but now its common for pr7 and 8 adult domains.

We have an exclusive 20 min interview with Matt Cutts of Google and we discuss this very topic.

:thumbsup

We love being on the cutting edge as much as possible. So we'll be bringing you this interview on RainMaker in the next few weeks.

Thanks for the explanation! :)

Is there any chance that we could chat sometime?
I'm also in Oz (Sydney) - ICQ 11041152 .

one thing i quite don't get - why pay 4 info you can get 4 free ? I suggest everyone who wants to learn SEO goes to the webmasterworld . com. It's that simple !

i use the same techniques i used with altavista 4-5 years ago... nothing has changed much

Mate I am not too good with icq.Email me at swami at blue-nile.org and I will give you my msn.
Cheers

The adult industry is usually ahead of webmasterworld and they in fact learn from what the porn kings are doing

I miss the good old days hammering dmoz with my own sites..

You could make about 30k a month doing that!

That was before my time but I reckon that could be a go again when Google drop their bundle on all the expired domains again.
Might apply to be an editor.:Graucho

not true in SEO. The toughest keywords are non adult (travel, pharmacy etc.). Pushing some niched porn keyword is easy as hell compared to that.

XM

I tend to agree...some pharmaceutical and gaming terms have been as competitive as any porn term!

Yes but the techniques used to spam google are usually done on adult sites first.For example log spamming,expired domains,guestbook spamming,cloaking expired domains and now subdomains.
The WW guys are picking up on that.

i've seen sophisticated spamming techniques on gaming sites that haven't come to adult yet.

But you wont find them in webmasterworld either.

Not everyone has the time to sort through the pile of shit posted at ww, just like not everyone has the time to sort through the pile of shit posted here. In addition to that, you need to have a certain level of experience already, in order to recognize what can be used as good advice and what's pure shit, coming from people who try to lead you in the wrong direction, for whatever reasons.

tree sorts are the best...




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