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wonton 07-04-2003 01:01 PM

Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77 !!!!!!!
 
That's right. Wonton is back in town. As a matter of fact he never left. He has patiently been monitoring the sad, sad sheep of GFY posting their usual banalities.

Time to stir up the shit again and inject some actual critical thinking in this community. Your officials have lied to you. Check out this article based on documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act.


There Were No Arabs on Flight 77 !!!!!!!!



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XxXotic 07-04-2003 01:04 PM

autopsies can't determine if someone is a muslim extremist. don't need to be an arab as far as I can tell to be a fucking psycho religious freak

liquidmoe 07-04-2003 01:04 PM

You want to stir up some shit here you go. Consider the fact that before 9/11 occurred the main subject in the news was the financial fiasco of Enron. The problem is that majority of the people do not realize the scope of this scam and how many high level players were involved. Then comes 9/11 and all news of Enron suddenly vanishes.

It's certainly a possibility that this was perpertrated by Americans or not an Arab terrorist organization. After all an Arab terrorist organization's priority would be to instill a constant level of fear or a deterioration of the standard of living which is much better accomplished through consistent acts of terrorism, as in Israel, rather than single events. Not to mention the amount of planning that went into these attacks, there is no reason to believe that a second set of attacks would not be planned. But if it was a cover up and it served its purpose then there is no need for extra fanfare.

Just a thought. Could be wrong, could be right.

wonton 07-04-2003 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
You want to stir up some shit here you go. Consider the fact that before 9/11 occurred the main subject in the news was the financial fiasco of Enron. The problem is that majority of the people do not realize the scope of this scam and how many high level players were involved. Then comes 9/11 and all news of Enron suddenly vanishes.

It's certainly a possibility that this was perpertrated by Americans or not an Arab terrorist organization. After all an Arab terrorist organization's priority would be to instill a constant level of fear or a deterioration of the standard of living which is much better accomplished through consistent acts of terrorism, as in Israel, rather than single events. Not to mention the amount of planning that went into these attacks, there is no reason to believe that a second set of attacks would not be planned. But if it was a cover up and it served its purpose then there is no need for extra fanfare.

Just a thought. Could be wrong, could be right.

Most of the Enron documents that implicated their executives in major illegalities were stored - you guessed it - in the WTC!

I'm not saying that Enron execs had anything to do with 911 but they certainly had access to power, all the way up to Bush. Might as well kill as many birds with one stone as possible if you are the power Elite.

wonton 07-04-2003 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XxXotic
autopsies can't determine if someone is a muslim extremist. don't need to be an arab as far as I can tell to be a fucking psycho religious freak
Right but that's not the point. The point is that the autopsies accounted for 100% of the passangers who were all traced back to being non-arab Americans.

There were no bodies that traced back to either arab famalies or even to unidentified sources.

All bodies were identified as non-arab, American passengers.

Where were the hijackers? Did their bodies magically disintegrate?

liquidmoe 07-04-2003 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


Right but that's not the point. The point is that the autopsies accounted for 100% of the passangers who were all traced back to being non-arab Americans.

There were no bodies that traced back to either arab famalies or even to unidentified sources.

All bodies were identified as non-arab, American passengers.

Where were the hijackers? Did their bodies magically disintegrate?

Fits in nicely with the theory of cover up, much more so than a terrorist organization. And this wouldnt be the first time that American terrorism was perpertrated by Americans so its not that far fetched. In fact more terrorism on American soil has probably occured by our own than others.

JFK, Unabomber, Timothy McViegh

Damian_Maxcash 07-04-2003 01:14 PM

John Walker Lindh wasnt Arab, but he was a muslim extremist...

wonton 07-04-2003 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
Fits in nicely with the theory of cover up, much more so than a terrorist organization. And this wouldnt be the first time that American terrorism was perpertrated by Americans so its not that far fetched. In fact more terrorism on American soil has probably occured by our own than others.

JFK, Unabomber, Timothy McViegh

And as far as incentive goes, look at what 911 has "bought" the military-industrial complex of America - the invasion of the middle east. Our troops now sit on the second largest oil reserves on the planet in Iraq. Don't forget that besides the non-existant WMD, the platform for going into Iraq was rumors of alliances between Saddam and the "terrorists".

And with forward bases in Afghanistan and Iraq, we now surround Iran. It's just a matter of time before we plunder their country as well. 911 has given the powers that be carte blanche to do whatever they want, including eviscerating huge sections of the constitution and bill of rights via the Patriot Act and Homeland Security.

Can anyone say with a straight face that there was not a huge amount to gain for the Power Elite by setting up a 911?

wonton 07-04-2003 01:22 PM

And by the way, in case any sheep are actually paying attention, six of the supposed 911 hijackers actually turned up alive!!!!!

This fact has received very minimal press in the US but Insight Magazine and the BBC have at least run some articles on it.


Hijackers are Alive !!!!!!

BBC Article about living Hijackers

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-04-2003 01:28 PM

See photo below.

The weak are widdled out. Living on this planet is a matter of survival of the fittest.
With world resources becomming limited somthing had to be done.

I don't care anymore about the Political bullshit anymore its all conspiracy no matter what direction. But the inherent instinct to survive plays a part in politics and leadership.

Mr.Wong 07-04-2003 01:30 PM

What do you say about the videos where Bin Laden himself claims responsibility for these attacks? Hollywood CGI? Fucking idiots...lol.

liquidmoe 07-04-2003 01:34 PM

Nothing in the American media is presented that hasnt been screened and ok'd by some higher up. Its all about money from advertising, its not about the news. Real news stories are always viewed from the prospective of possible returns, dont for a second think that there is any real integrity in journalism. Even if a journalist hasnt been corrupted and is naive enough to still believe in his craft it doesnt make an ounce of difference because ahead of him are his editors and the board which only care about the bottom line. Stop believing everything you read and start thinking analyzing facts not misreported B.S.

dav555add 07-04-2003 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton
And by the way, in case any sheep are actually paying attention, six of the supposed 911 hijackers actually turned up alive!!!!!

This fact has received very minimal press in the US but Insight Magazine and the BBC have at least run some articles on it.


Hijackers are Alive !!!!!!

BBC Article about living Hijackers

BBC???? Bullshit Broadcasting hahahaha
Insighmag???? Owned by the arabs
So go fuck your dog and take a hike you smelly piece of commy shit :321GFY

wonton 07-04-2003 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Wong
What do you say about the videos where Bin Laden himself claims responsibility for these attacks? Hollywood CGI? Fucking idiots...lol.
Bin Laden is a CIA asset and always has been one.

The Bin Laden family and Bush family have business dealings going back 50 years.

The Bin Laden family builds ALL of the US military bases in the middle east.

George Bush JR. halted an investigation of Bin Laden's brothers who were living just miles from CIA HQ in Virginia. FBI agents sued Bush over it and that case is still pending.

Bin Laden works for the CIA. Do your research and use global news sources. Don't just rely on the US press. You will be shocked at what you find. Why do you think the entire rest of the world is currently against the US? Even former allies in Europe are against us. The truth is getting out...

volante 07-04-2003 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Wong
What do you say about the videos where Bin Laden himself claims responsibility for these attacks? Hollywood CGI? Fucking idiots...lol.
Woudl these be the videos that the US administration had translated and released to the press?

The translations were lambasted by the press around the world for being full of inaccuracies. Except in the US...

wonton 07-04-2003 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add


BBC???? Bullshit Broadcasting hahahaha
Insighmag???? Owned by the arabs
So go fuck your dog and take a hike you smelly piece of commy shit :321GFY

Right. And CCN is the Pravda of our times.

And Insight Magazine owned by arabs? Show me.

As for dog fucking I already did that this morning. He is currently recovering.

As for commie - No. I am a free-thinking capitalist. You should try that some time (the free thinking part).

liquidmoe 07-04-2003 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton

As for commie - No. I am a free-thinking capitalist. You should try that some time (the free thinking part).

People livingin the lap of luxury would be foolish to question their circumstances hence the majority do not and react childishly when their views, which really arent even their views are conflicted with others views. Form your own opinions I say, but then again that would require the use of brain cells so be careful, thinking hurts. :thumbsup

Its funny how the majority of people who use commie as a derogative term have no real conception of communism or socialism or even capitalism and democracy for that matter. Yeah for the uninformed general public.

andi_germany 07-04-2003 01:42 PM

I saw a documentary of the crashed of 9/11. The one of the Pentagon and the one that went down apparently of people fighting the terrorsits left no trace of an aircraft. If you see the Pentagon photos done right after the apparent crash you don't even see a hole in the outer wall. No visual aircraft pieces can be seen on any footage. The crashsite in NY has aircraft parts all over and the lesse crashes make the aircraft blow up in small bits and pieces? doubtfull

KingK7 07-04-2003 01:42 PM

STFU already

wonton 07-04-2003 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KingK7
STFU already
No. I am Wonton. Hear me roar.

liquidmoe 07-04-2003 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andi_germany
I saw a documentary of the crashed of 9/11. The one of the Pentagon and the one that went down apparently of people fighting the terrorsits left no trace of an aircraft. If you see the Pentagon photos done right after the apparent crash you don't even see a hole in the outer wall. No visual aircraft pieces can be seen on any footage. The crashsite in NY has aircraft parts all over and the lesse crashes make the aircraft blow up in small bits and pieces? doubtfull
The other plane that went down supposedly when the people on board attacked the terrorists was a bunch of B.S. That plane went down because it was shot down. If the plane was taken down when people fought the terrorists it would have crashed, hence the majority or certainly large chunks of the plain would be intact and the scatter zone for the plane's parts would be quite manageable. However if I remember correctly the area over which the plane was scattered was several square miles and no large portions were recovered leading to the much more likely possibility that it was shot out of the sky, leading to the larger scatter area and also making it much more difficult to recover any really in tact portions of the plane.

liquidmoe 07-04-2003 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KingK7
STFU already
Would you like to contribute something constructive to the conversation? :winkwink:

directfiesta 07-04-2003 01:50 PM

Quote:

the names of the hijackers flashed across TV screens for the world to see. Based on intelligence information gained from interviews, witnesses, flight-manifest logs and passports found at some of the crash debris sites,
Why to they call their source ' intelligence". Obviously it is everything but that....


Maybe someone needed to shift the attention from his poor performance????

http://images.indymedia.org/imc/vanc...itsignday1.jpg

Mr.Wong 07-04-2003 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


Bin Laden is a CIA asset and always has been one.

The Bin Laden family and Bush family have business dealings going back 50 years.

The Bin Laden family builds ALL of the US military bases in the middle east.

George Bush JR. halted an investigation of Bin Laden's brothers who were living just miles from CIA HQ in Virginia. FBI agents sued Bush over it and that case is still pending.

Bin Laden works for the CIA. Do your research and use global news sources. Don't just rely on the US press. You will be shocked at what you find. Why do you think the entire rest of the world is currently against the US? Even former allies in Europe are against us. The truth is getting out...

Yes, I'm quite aware of Bin Laden's family business, Saudi BinLaden Group or as they're known SBG. It's also ironic that they built the very base in Afghanistan where we launched our attack against them. I'm sure you also know that Osama's family, other than his mother, has nothing to do with Osama. There's no denying that Bush's and SBG do business together, but you're trying really hard to make a connection for 911 based on his family's business when it has nothing to do with the black sheep who his own family has disowned.

liquidmoe 07-04-2003 01:53 PM

Bush hasnt done one intelligent or beneficial thing for the nation since his term in office. He hasnt even proposed any beneficial legislation which has been tied up in Congress or party bickering. He is just a waste of space. Of course this isnt anything new or ground breaking, and quite expected from a man without two brain cells, but none the less.

BUSH :thefinger

liquidmoe 07-04-2003 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Wong


Yes, I'm quite aware of Bin Laden's family business, Saudi BinLaden Group or as they're known SBG. It's also ironic that they built the very base in Afghanistan where we launched our attack against them. I'm sure you also know that Osama's family, other than his mother, has nothing to do with Osama. There's no denying that Bush's and SBG do business together, but you're trying really hard to make a connection for 911 based on that when it has nothing to do with the black sheep who his own family has disowned.

However there is no question that America supplied Osama Bin Laden with weapons in prior conflicts and that he is in fact American sponsored. Had America followed through with actually butting out of some of the Middle East's internal business Osama would not have turned on them.

Mr.Wong 07-04-2003 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
However there is no question that America supplied Osama Bin Laden with weapons in prior conflicts and that he is in fact American sponsored. Had America followed through with actually butting out of some of the Middle East's internal business Osama would not have turned on them.
You also know that was because of the Russian invasion, who we were trying to stop. We didn't supply weapons to turn directly on us and use it for terrorism. Osama doesn't just hate America because we got involved with Israel and had troops in the Saudi Kingdom. He's against all non-muslims.

liquidmoe 07-04-2003 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Wong


You also know that was because of the Russian invasion, who we were trying to stop. We didn't supply weapons to turn directly on us and use it for terrorism. Osama doesn't just hate America because we got involved with Israel and had troops in the Saudi Kingdom. He's against all non-muslims.

It's America's shit policy of indirect action. If they want to prevent expansion or wanted to counter act Russia they should have acted directly, but supplying weapons to an individual who could become an enemy later doesnt make much sense. America's foriegn plicy has always been ridiculous and idiotic. Its all about money with no real foreign diplomacy, you reap what you sow.

wonton 07-04-2003 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Wong


Yes, I'm quite aware of Bin Laden's family business, Saudi BinLaden Group or as they're known SBG. It's also ironic that they built the very base in Afghanistan where we launched our attack against them. I'm sure you also know that Osama's family, other than his mother, has nothing to do with Osama. There's no denying that Bush's and SBG do business together, but you're trying really hard to make a connection for 911 based on his family's business when it has nothing to do with the black sheep who his own family has disowned.

If you actually buy that whole "black sheep" nonsense that is pretty sad. Just goes to show how incredibly easy it is to fool the masses.

If Hitler had a family and President Roosevelt was doing close business with the "Hitler Family" during World War II would that make any sense? Would it make sense if Roosevelt was doing business with the family of the Emperor of Japan during that same time period?

Prior to 911, the US was already "at war" so to speak with Osama Bin Laden, at least that is what we were led to believe. For the Bushes to be totally in bed with Osama's Father, brothers, grandfather and other close relatives stinks of scandal to high heaven.

It is a total, all-out criminal enterprise, from Bush to Bin Laden. The American people have been had and they are too weak, too lazy to do anything about it - yet!

wonton 07-04-2003 02:08 PM

And here's another one to gain insight into the Bush crime family.

In 1981 President Reagan was almost killed by John Hinkley, a supposed deraged man who was trying to "impress Jodi Foster". If Reagan died, George Bush Sr. then vice president, would have become president.

Approximately two weeks prior to attempting to assasinate Reagan, Hinkley and his brother went to a dinner at the home of Neil Bush, son of George Bush. The Hinkleys were close Republican associates of the Bushes.

Interesting how out of the 240 million people in the US, the president almost gets killed by an associate of the Vice President.

Of course that whole thing was suspicious so an inquiry was automatcially launched. The conclusion of the panel was that "nothing suspicious" was found. The head of the panel? Vice President George Bush or course.

I'll say it again. The American people have become a nation of mindless sheep. It is time to wake up and smell the coffee!

rooster 07-04-2003 02:15 PM

yea, sheep, sorta like believing anything a whacko puts on the net as fact.

blackmonsters 07-04-2003 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Wong
What do you say about the videos where Bin Laden himself claims responsibility for these attacks? Hollywood CGI? Fucking idiots...lol.
Very good point. But I have to admit that I never heard Bin-Laden on the tapes. I heard an english translator who could
have said anything he wanted to say.
Tapes can be over-dubed; not saying that they are but if we look for solid evidence and consider if we were scammed then we need more evidence than those videos. A video of Bin-laden holding up plans of the attack would be very good.

I pretty much believe the official story; but I was quite amazed at how fast we identified the suspects. It seemed miraculous.

My suspisions are being raised by the WMD.
WMD = Weapons of Mass Deception.

wonton 07-04-2003 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackmonsters

I pretty much believe the official story; but I was quite amazed at how fast we identified the suspects. It seemed miraculous.

My suspisions are being raised by the WMD.
WMD = Weapons of Mass Deception.

If you recall, the day after 911 the FBI arrived at the scene and miraculously found all the hijackers' perfectly preserved passports in the rubble, despite the fact that everything else on that plane disintegrated. Also surprising that with all that planning the "hijackers" would be stupid enough to use their real passports.

And then six of the hijackers are later tracked by the BBC and found to be alive and not hijackers after all.

It's a total joke, just like the weapons of mass distraction.

wonton 07-04-2003 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
yea, sheep, sorta like believing anything a whacko puts on the net as fact.
BBC is a whacko?

Insight Magazine is a whacko?

The Sierra Times is a whacko?

I've heard about living in denial but at least come up with something to support your denial that is based on fact, as opposed to a random flippant comment.

Mike AI 07-04-2003 02:30 PM

Psssst.....

I hear the moon is made of cheese....

The US never landed on the moon, it was shot in a hollywood sound stage....

Elvis is alive....

The space shuttle was destroyed on purpose to kill the jewish/Isaraeli massuad agent who was going to spill the beans
about 9-11 being a plan of israel and shri lanka.

Oh and Brad Shaw has a giant cock....

Mr.Wong 07-04-2003 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


If you actually buy that whole "black sheep" nonsense that is pretty sad. Just goes to show how incredibly easy it is to fool the masses.

If Hitler had a family and President Roosevelt was doing close business with the "Hitler Family" during World War II would that make any sense? Would it make sense if Roosevelt was doing business with the family of the Emperor of Japan during that same time period?

Prior to 911, the US was already "at war" so to speak with Osama Bin Laden, at least that is what we were led to believe. For the Bushes to be totally in bed with Osama's Father, brothers, grandfather and other close relatives stinks of scandal to high heaven.

It is a total, all-out criminal enterprise, from Bush to Bin Laden. The American people have been had and they are too weak, too lazy to do anything about it - yet!

Bin Laden's brother, Hasan, coined the name "black sheep" of the family during an interview after 911 and that became the term that media outlets used. That still doesn't deny that his own family call him that.

Comparing the past "terrorizers" has nothing to do with this. We're not getting into hypothetical questions that only conclude by personal opinion. Straight to the facts, the Bin Laden family have done a lot of business in the US - period. The fact that they have done business with the Bush family has little or no bearing on the fact the Osama Bin Laden is the head of Al-Queda and their goal is to get rid of all non-muslims so they can live in a perfect world before reaching Allah. Conspiracy theories and paranoids can do nothing to get rid of that fact.

volante 07-04-2003 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI
Psssst.....

I hear the moon is made of cheese....

The US never landed on the moon, it was shot in a hollywood sound stage....

Of course the US never landed on the moon - they would have sunk into the cheese!

Idiot!

:winkwink:

directfiesta 07-04-2003 02:38 PM

No wonder Bin Lademn wanted revenge...just like DBYA ..

The US tried to kill him ... BEFORE 9/11.


[QUOTEWhen President Bush (news - web sites) took office in January 2001, the White House was told that Predator drones had recently spotted Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) as many as three times and officials were urged to arm the unmanned planes with missiles to kill the al-Qaida leader.[/QUOTE]

Oh, Dave555add, it's an american link ( more american than you):

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...edator_plan_18

wonton 07-04-2003 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Wong


Bin Laden's brother, Hasan, coined the name "black sheep" of the family during an interview after 911 and that became the term that media outlets used. That still doesn't deny that his own family call him that.

Comparing the past "terrorizers" has nothing to do with this. We're not getting into hypothetical questions that only conclude by personal opinion. Straight to the facts, the Bin Laden family have done a lot of business in the US - period. The fact that they have done business with the Bush family has little or no bearing on the fact the Osama Bin Laden is the head of Al-Queda and their goal is to get rid of all non-muslims so they can live in a perfect world before reaching Allah. Conspiracy theories and paraniods can do nothing to get rid of that fact.

Gee. That's all it takes to dissociate a supposed arch-criminal from the president of the United States, eventhough their families are in bed together? Because his brother calls him a "black sheep"? I mean really. That's all it takes? The surrounding concomitant facts have no bearing at all on your assessment of the situation? For christ's sakes...

Too bad the rest of us can't use that simple line as an excuse for global crimes. John Gotti would just have to say of his son and/or henchmen, "They are black sheep" and that would end any investigation into the connection between Gotti and the guys that actually pull the trigger.

My god....

RaiDeN 07-04-2003 02:39 PM

why were all those scann's in that report dated 12/09/1992 ??


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