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AkiraSS 03-10-2003 01:32 PM

Black people and their islam, cocoa, african - americanisam etc.
 
Since I am European an no black people here (not counting the gypsys that is, they're cool) I want to know what's up with their behavior in the states mainly (French black people are cool too).

Argument 1: I watched a movie with Chris Rock, and from reading PL here, lately black people love to drink "Cocoa" and they seem to relate that to them being black. I am white and I drink everythink, from water to alchohol, to hot chocolate to cocoa, everything, and I don't have a cult drink. What's up with the black people and them tagging themselves on purpose??? I think there aren't any racism related things in the USA like in the 1960 so nobody messes with black people for them being black or saying them to sit in the back right? Now wtf would the go around proclaiming to be 'cocoa drinkers' ? This cocoa thing is new right?

ok, once someone explains the cocoa thing, jump to argument 2.

Argument 2: "******s" - term used by white racist in the past, now used in black people slang and rap songs. Like if a white man now adresses a black man with "******" he is considered a racist, but not if black people call themselves like that?

Argument 3: term "African-Americans". This is funny term. Everyone knows the real americans are the native americans - named "Indians" by Columbus which are infact the last remains of the Mayas and the Incas. So, if the black people want to call themselves African-Americans since "imported" from Africa, wtf should the white man be called - "European- Americans" ?? Give me a brake

Argument 4: Islam. Where is the connection with black people and Islam? Since they want to claim themselves "African-Americans" then coming from Africa they should be really worshipping many gods or be canibals, because real African people have nothing to do with Islam.


And so on. Now when racism is gone, the black people are ones who are making new type of racism, closing themselves in world they create, like they miss the tymes before M.L. King :confused:

nocostporn 03-10-2003 01:34 PM

uh oh

TDF 03-10-2003 01:35 PM

any whitey want to take this thread? too much ignorance in this rant for me

playa 03-10-2003 01:39 PM

hmm, you better just stick with your european heritage cause you have no idea what the heck you talking bout,,

cocoa?? lol

rooster 03-10-2003 01:39 PM

Who knows, maybe the races are incapable of mixing. The only places I can think of where whites and blacks share the same areas on a large scale are USA and south africa. It has failed pretty miserably in both spots.

Sly_RJ 03-10-2003 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
any whitey want to take this thread? too much ignorance in this rant for me
I'm tempted. But I'm just another ******.

Sly_RJ 03-10-2003 01:41 PM

Is anybody else laughing their ass off about the cocoa? That's hilarious!

ATTENTION FOREIGNERS: Stop watching our movies and assuming that's how Americans act!

nocostporn 03-10-2003 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by playa
hmm, you better just stick with your european heritage cause you have no idea what the heck you talking bout,,

cocoa?? lol


LMAO no shit I was like who the fuck drinks cocoa and claims it?....quarter water is the blackmans drink fucker!

woodman 03-10-2003 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
any whitey want to take this thread? too much ignorance in this rant for me

Cool then if I just refer to you as blackey?

Or would that be considered racist? Seriously, I have no clue how to refer to my fellow dark-skinned Americans.

Help a cracker out here.

sherbert 03-10-2003 01:46 PM

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TDF 03-10-2003 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by woodman



Cool then if I just refer to you as blackey?

Or would that be considered racist? Seriously, I have no clue how to refer to my fellow dark-skinned Americans.

Help a cracker out here.


sure why not..I cant knock u out over a computer if I wanted to:2 cents:

rpet 03-10-2003 01:47 PM

Cocoa?? What ghetto hood movie were u watching?? I love kenedy fried chicken, kool-aid (actually flavor-ade), and Old English 40's.. Second... only a small population of blacks claim to Islamic and for your information the oldest church of christianity is the Coptic church which was in Africa... so that means most blacks in america should be christian, which most of the black religious population is.... Please stop listening to our music, movies, and media and start presuming things .. you have to live here to understand...

One.
Rpet

Rocky 03-10-2003 01:47 PM

i'm crazy for cocoa puffs

playa 03-10-2003 01:49 PM

i think he means 40 oz,,

i guess he finally got a chance to watch boyz in the hood

Fletch XXX 03-10-2003 01:49 PM

burn a flag.

pick a country or state.

how about Texas flags?

TDF 03-10-2003 01:51 PM

I thought PL meant cocoa as in ebony booty..fuck me if im wrong

pine 03-10-2003 01:57 PM

Look! Comedy!

pelagicnavigator 03-10-2003 01:58 PM

This is a letter I recently submitted to the editor of our local newspaper.....For the most part blacks in my area are merely a bunch of complainers....."Black pride, but where the white women at"......and we all know those black boys love white women....if they were really proud of their race wouldn't they want to keep the bloodline pure.....






The NAACP has recently, (by recently I mean the last 10 to 20 years) become an embarrassment to themselves and the people they supposedly represent. This has to be one of the few organizations that can get away with using ignorance, self contradiction, and misinformation to their advantage. That in itself is truly amazing and worth mentioning.
The Confederate battle flag issue alone is quite humorous if you step back and analyze it. This group has picked a symbol out of the blue and managed to turn it into a huge racial equality issue that has stirred anger and contempt between two groups of people over a flag that's was created to lead soldiers into battle. These brave men fought to keep a strong and centralized, government from interfering in their lives and threatening personal freedoms guaranteed in our constitution. A cause that motivated simple farmers to join and die for. Now all of a sudden certain blacks get to just decide out of the blue that this important piece of history doesn't matter and that this important symbol of freedom should just go away. Let's just rewrite history? Not on my watch skipper. What is even more outrageous is that we entertained this group by actually debating on whether or not they would be allowed to change history. What we should have done was have a good chuckle at this hate groups' expense and move on. Instead a compromised was reached. The flag was removed from the state house and placed in a memorial for confederate soldiers. I was happy. The NAACP were not. That wasn't good enough. Compromise just isn't good enough. It is all or nothing. The result to not getting their way was a boycott on the entire state which proved to be an utter failure. Now all of a sudden it is OK for blacks to visit South Carolina. But just whil the NAACP says it is ok. How sweet. Should the residents of this state say thank you?
Slavery is a terrible thing to have to endure. Humans have taken slaves since the beginning and still do. Slavery and suffering still exists in this world. Maybe the NAACP could concentrate on freeing the people who are being kept in bondage now. Many young girls are sold into slavery and sent to brothels today in India and Pakistan. Young boys are used as camel jockeys. Why doesn't the NAACP work to abolish this sort of thing. Actually that is a bad idea since there probably wouldn't be much money in that. Lets face it stirring up trouble and controversy is what pays the bills for this group of complainers. There was a time when the NAACP was necessary. If an innocent man is being persecuted unfairly somewhere then by all means a group that steps in to fight for this man is needed. Oh that's right the NAACP only protects a certain color. The first people to ever take the Africans into slavery were the muslims in north Africa. This kind of contradicts that whole Black Muslim idea for joining this religion so they can supposedly "drop their slave names". Yea drop one and take another.That's the sort of thing I am entertained by. I love to see people take a stand using the wrong information. Can anyone say "free comedy"?
Now I understand that the NAACP will be picketing the SoCon basketball tournament. Outstanding. This should accomplish a lot. How about that young, talented, black athlete that could use the exposure from the publicized tournament to possibly make a living from doing what he loves. Should he not show up also? If that is the case then isn't the NAACP hurting the very people they are supposedly founded to protect? I won't mention the white players because we all know they are of no concern to these "freedom fighters". We are dealing with a group that is very quick to point out anything done or said that isn't politically correct or to their liking. But only if the persecutor is white and the persecuted is black. They were quick to pounce on Trent Lott when he made his unpopular statement. Nice work. They even drove this moron to apologize, and discuss affirmative action on a segregated TV network (BET). How about that for irony?
What about the fire in the predominantly black night club in Chicago. Quite a few Black Americans lost their lives. I read a few days later that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson were on top of the situation. They are wasting no time or expense to get to Chicago and ensure that the families are properly compensated. Very nice jesture indeed. A week or so later another nightclub in Rhode Island burned down killing many white people. I don't recall reading anything about Al and Jesse working to set things right for those families. They must be the wrong color. I hate it when that happens.
America is the greatest country in the world and there is no disputing that. We have freedoms and opportunities here that people die for in other countries. We are all very fortunate to be here no matter how you arrived. So lets keep the complaining, and whining down to a minimum. By the way I refuse to call you African American unless you were actually born on that continent and came over here. If you were born in this country then you will just have to be content on being a plain old American to me. The minute someone attempts to put you back in shackles then by all means lets do something about it. But until the shut up already.

dav555add 03-10-2003 02:00 PM

AkiraSS, are you mad because a Black American guy just fucked your gf? And since he had a big "one", your gf pussy is so opened up she can't feel your little thing????

I bet you're a nazi from germany :321GFY

pelagicnavigator 03-10-2003 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rpet
Cocoa?? What ghetto hood movie were u watching?? I love kenedy fried chicken, kool-aid (actually flavor-ade), and Old English 40's.. Second... only a small population of blacks claim to Islamic and for your information the oldest church of christianity is the Coptic church which was in Africa... so that means most blacks in america should be christian, which most of the black religious population is.... Please stop listening to our music, movies, and media and start presuming things .. you have to live here to understand...

One.
Rpet


Live where?

dav555add 03-10-2003 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by pelagicnavigator



Live where?

shut up david duke :321GFY

nocostporn 03-10-2003 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add
AkiraSS, are you mad because a Black American guy just fucked your gf? And since he had a big "one", your gf pussy is so opened up she can't feel your little thing????

I bet you're a nazi from germany :321GFY


thats stereotypical dude...watch it! :glugglug

pine 03-10-2003 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pelagicnavigator
and we all know those black boys love white women....if they were really proud of their race wouldn't they want to keep the bloodline pure.....
After leading with this little "gem", nothing else you have to say would be worth the time it takes to read. Sorry.

playa 03-10-2003 02:05 PM

pelagicnavigator,,, i haven't read the entire posting but i figure you are FOR the confederate flag

Hey i live in Georgia so i know what this is all bout,,

but tell me this if you love that rebel flag so much,,

where the heck were YOU when the KKK and Neo Nazi's were using the flag as their symbol,

The history might be true but the FLAG is tainted and too many of the hate organizations have used it to represent them,


you know whats really fucked up when i seen the European Nazi have a protest and guess what flag they had with the Nazi symbol? and they not even in the US


another point Atlanta airport is one of busiest airports in the world, guess what all the foriegners think when they see the confederate symbol

quiet 03-10-2003 02:05 PM

gin and juice

sweetums 03-10-2003 02:07 PM

I'm a whitey...kinda :)

I'm hoping that AkiraSS asked these questions out of genuine ignorance...so let's see how I do here...

1) Don't assume that any one media representation is indicative of what any social group IS. Lots of critiques against the construction of stereotypical images of all kinds of ethnic/racial/socia groups.

2) Blacks/African Americans have reappropriated a term that was historically used against them.

3) Using terms like "African-American", "Irish-American", "Italian-American" is a way of being more accurate about who makes up the melting-pot, and the fact that their origins were from somewhere else.

4) Lots of African countries have histories with strong links to Islam. Remember the Moops...the Moors I mean...heheheh

And where in the name of all the gods did you get the idea that racism is gone? Systemic racism exists in most of our social institutions....

This whitey woman's :2 cents: anyway....

The Porn Dude 03-10-2003 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pelagicnavigator
This is a letter I recently submitted to the editor of our local newspaper.....For the most part blacks in my area are merely a bunch of complainers....."Black pride, but where the white women at"......and we all know those black boys love white women....if they were really proud of their race wouldn't they want to keep the bloodline pure.....






The NAACP has recently, (by recently I mean the last 10 to 20 years) become an embarrassment to themselves and the people they supposedly represent. This has to be one of the few organizations that can get away with using ignorance, self contradiction, and misinformation to their advantage. That in itself is truly amazing and worth mentioning.
The Confederate battle flag issue alone is quite humorous if you step back and analyze it. This group has picked a symbol out of the blue and managed to turn it into a huge racial equality issue that has stirred anger and contempt between two groups of people over a flag that's was created to lead soldiers into battle. ..... The minute someone attempts to put you back in shackles then by all means lets do something about it. But until the shut up already.

This is probably the the most ignorant thing I have ever witnessed in my life. I and everyone else have forever been made more stupid for having read this. At no point did you even come close to a rational thought. I curse you and want the time in my life back that I took to read that.



:321GFY

AkiraSS 03-10-2003 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add
AkiraSS, are you mad because a Black American guy just fucked your gf? And since he had a big "one", your gf pussy is so opened up she can't feel your little thing????

I bet you're a nazi from germany :321GFY

I don't have a girlfriend, and not black men live in my country (Macedonia) and I am not nazzi.

pelagicnavigator 03-10-2003 02:13 PM

Who are you to say the flag is tainted....the kkk also used the American flag as their symbol...why don't you get that one banned also...isn't it tainted.....They also wore white sheets....should we ban the sleeping on white sheets for everyone....I can't help what one hate group decides to carry when they rally but I can use common sense to understand what certain things really mean and what they really were intended for...the NAACP make themselves out to look quite stupid...it is embarrasing....they only help someone if they are black....bottom line....they are a hate group...lets bann whatever flag they use for a symbol....

dav555add 03-10-2003 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AkiraSS


I don't have a girlfriend, and not black men live in my country (Macedonia) and I am not nazzi.

Well, sorry if my Black American Brother fucked your boyfriend's ass so wide he doesn't feel you anymore.
Macedonia, that the naziest country in europe now. :321GFY

woodman 03-10-2003 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pelagicnavigator
Who are you to say the flag is tainted....the kkk also used the American flag as their symbol...why don't you get that one banned also...isn't it tainted.....They also wore white sheets....should we ban the sleeping on white sheets for everyone....I can't help what one hate group decides to carry when they rally but I can use common sense to understand what certain things really mean and what they really were intended for...the NAACP make themselves out to look quite stupid...it is embarrasing....they only help someone if they are black....bottom line....they are a hate group...lets bann whatever flag they use for a symbol....
The war is OVER. The South lost. It's in all the history book. I'm serious. Some guy named Grant kicked some guy name Lee's ass after Lee took the first few rounds.

Juggernaut 03-10-2003 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by dav555add
Macedonia, that the naziest country in europe now. :321GFY
Try Belgium. This guy is just another example of one person thinking he speaks for the many. Surely you can see he's alone on this one.

playa 03-10-2003 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pelagicnavigator
Who are you to say the flag is tainted....the kkk also used the American flag as their symbol...why don't you get that one banned also...isn't it tainted.....They also wore white sheets....should we ban the sleeping on white sheets for everyone....I can't help what one hate group decides to carry when they rally but I can use common sense to understand what certain things really mean and what they really were intended for...the NAACP make themselves out to look quite stupid...it is embarrasing....they only help someone if they are black....bottom line....they are a hate group...lets bann whatever flag they use for a symbol....

maybe you need to start getting outside more
comparing to american flag and white sheets is a pretty dumb analogy

its all bout perception, and thats what people see and feel
they don't give a shit bout history and what it really stood for,

its fucked just face it, you should of said something when THEY did use it, ask anyone and 99% of people will compare it to the NAZI flag

Juggernaut 03-10-2003 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by woodman
The war is OVER. The South lost. It's in all the history book. I'm serious. Some guy named Grant kicked some guy name Lee's ass after Lee took the first few rounds.
I went to Grant's home in Galena, Illinois. Beautiful place.

Sly_RJ 03-10-2003 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by Juggernaut


I went to Grant's home in Galena, Illinois. Beautiful place.

My birthplace is 20 minutes from there. What did you think of Galena?

playa 03-10-2003 02:39 PM

I also want to clarify that i really don't give a shit bout the Confederate Flag, hell you can even be one of my best friends sporting the rebel flag for a bumper sticker,

it just how non southerners percieve it as and thats the truth

Herb Kornfield 03-10-2003 02:40 PM

we are all the same in the end,

All Bleed red

All wake up and take a piss

All get tired at night and go to bed.

Maybe if we all started to think of each others as what we are, Brothers and sisters of the same race (human one) all the bullshit of seperating into groups, factions and the like will stop, then we all can get down to the business of life and enjoying new friends.

Embrace another culture and also, share the beauty of your culture with others.

Juggernaut 03-10-2003 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
My birthplace is 20 minutes from there. What did you think of Galena?
I aspire to own a home in that lovely town. I am a great fan of architecture, and there is plenty of it in that town... Very important place in America's history.

<IMX> 03-10-2003 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pelagicnavigator
Who are you to say the flag is tainted....the kkk also used the American flag as their symbol...why don't you get that one banned also...isn't it tainted.....They also wore white sheets....should we ban the sleeping on white sheets for everyone....I can't help what one hate group decides to carry when they rally but I can use common sense to understand what certain things really mean and what they really were intended for...the NAACP make themselves out to look quite stupid...it is embarrasing....they only help someone if they are black....bottom line....they are a hate group...lets bann whatever flag they use for a symbol....
Not really much to say.

I severely curtail my posts no, because I realize I've paid so much for an excellent education, why should I give one away for free? It is more fun to rabble rouse. :Graucho

In this case...the truth is stranger than fiction, as it is always funny to see poor ignorant whites deluded into to thinking blacks were/are their enemy...

Go do a search on "The Lost Cause." LOL, and you will see how ridiculous most claims of "southern heritage," are. The South did indeed support an Anglican (Episcopalian) aristoricracy in the ante-bellum South...but that was just about as good for poor whites as black slaves LOL. The creation of most modern elements of "southern heritage," arose after the resoundingly devestating psychological defeat of the Civil War.

One of life's great ironies...poor whites defend an image of the South that never existed--to substantiate the resounding loss of life and utterly humilating defeat of the Civil War. Unfortunately, this defense of the lost cause keeps blacks and whites in the south from in acting meaningful social change...oh well...

Don't believe me? Want to hold on to the interpretation those in power give you? Like the feeling of being better than _somebody_ ? LOL.

Good go read a scholarly work (not bullshit popular books or some letter to the editor) on the subject.

I suggest...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0820306819/qid=1047331494/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/102-0255440-3200964?v=glance&s=books

However, I do not feel the confederate flag should be banned from being flown anywhere by law. Just don't bitch about people using the market to voice their displeasure about blatent racism.

but whatever...don't let facts get in the way of good discussion...
continue.

:glugglug

Sly_RJ 03-10-2003 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by Juggernaut


I aspire to own a home in that lovely town. I am a great fan of architecture, and there is plenty of it in that town... Very important place in America's history.

That area has a lot of history behind it. Everything from the adventures of Al Cappone to the mining of ore. At one time Galena was actually bigger than Chicago. Nice little town, some great food can be found there.


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