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dave90210 02-27-2014 01:32 AM

Americans Sick Of Illegals!
 
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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 02-27-2014 01:51 AM

For those too lazy to click... :helpme



It's going to be a rough transition for those white folks when they find themselves and their attitudes in the minority in the not too distant future. :2 cents:

:stoned

ADG

Paul&John 02-27-2014 02:05 AM

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscart...y-pknn776l.jpg

ING82 02-27-2014 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 19997478)

"Pale" face was here before you savages.

seeandsee 02-27-2014 06:19 AM

americans forgot they came there also :)

DamianJ 02-27-2014 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ING82 (Post 19997630)
"Pale" face was here before you savages.

Really? So the Native Americans had the gaul to come over to Whitey's land, take it from them, pretend it was their land, and then got all shitty about it?

Holy moly! That's a revelation!

Matt 26z 02-27-2014 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 19997632)
americans forgot they came there also :)

Legally.

Matt 26z 02-27-2014 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ING82 (Post 19997630)
"Pale" face was here before you savages.

Native Americans have been set up with millions of acres of reservation land to do as they please. They don't even have to pay taxes.

And if you want to go back to early settlement, keep in mind that native Americans were no more advanced than people living in the stone age. They hadn't even invented the wheel yet. They lagged too far behind the rest of the human race to form partnerships with beyond trading for simple goods.

Grapesoda 02-27-2014 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19997634)
Really? So the Native Americans had the gaul to come over to Whitey's land, take it from them, pretend it was their land, and then got all shitty about it?

Holy moly! That's a revelation!

wow! you're completely fucking stupid aren't you? and who do you think the Native Americans took the land from? you think Indians were fucking hippies? think maybe they ran around with flowers in their hair smoking pot singing shitty songs?

the nature of man is to TAKE from the weaker... sad but TRUE... BTW it's wasn't AMERICANS who took the land dipshit.... it was EUROPEAN SCUM... well..... just like you!!!! :1orglaugh

Grapesoda 02-27-2014 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 19997632)
americans forgot they came there also :)

uhummmm... Americans did NOT come here ... EUROPEANS came here :2 cents:

Sid70 02-27-2014 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19997461)
For those too lazy to click... :helpme



It's going to be a rough transition for those white folks when they find themselves and their attitudes in the minority in the not too distant future. :2 cents:

:stoned

ADG

On this video still, who is it, Steve Lightspeed?

Matt 26z 02-27-2014 07:00 AM

Popular theory is that native Americans came here when a land bridge still existed near Alaska (no proof of this land bridge exists). There is however a growing belief that the Chinese sailed the Pacific and native Americans are descendants of the (possibly shipwrecked) Chinese.

It is also becoming more accepted that Vikings sailed the Atlantic and landed in America also. So it could very well be that the native Americans people like to think of as having claim to America are actually a mix of Asians and Europeans.

That makes more sense than a hypothetical land bridge that exists only because we need a way to explain how people got here before Columbus.

xpimp 02-27-2014 07:08 AM

americans aren't the descendents of indians? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigen...f_the_Americas

L-Pink 02-27-2014 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19997461)
It's going to be a rough transition for those white folks when they find themselves and their attitudes in the minority in the not too distant future. :2 cents:

:stoned

ADG

You mean the attitudes that separated this country from the shit-holes most of them escaped from?


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crockett 02-27-2014 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19997643)
Native Americans have been set up with millions of acres of reservation land to do as they please. They don't even have to pay taxes.

And if you want to go back to early settlement, keep in mind that native Americans were no more advanced than people living in the stone age. They hadn't even invented the wheel yet. They lagged too far behind the rest of the human race to form partnerships with beyond trading for simple goods.

Guess that's the reason we took all that land from the Mexicans too?

L-Pink 02-27-2014 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19997689)
Guess that's the reason we took all that land from the Mexicans too?

There are very few countries on earth who's land wasn't taken from someone at some time.

ING82 02-27-2014 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19997634)
Really? So the Native Americans had the gaul to come over to Whitey's land, take it from them, pretend it was their land, and then got all shitty about it?

Holy moly! That's a revelation!

Nobody is native to North America you stupid fucks! Indians didn't just sprout out from the ground!

You want to debate anything I'm open anytime I love proving brainwashed liberal idiots wrong that learned everything they know about there country from high school history class.

They want the White man's land back that was sold to them because now they see the value of it (Indian givers), civilization and welfare, but they don't want the White Man in it even though Europeans built everything.

Fucking Aboriginals should pack up and go back to China where they came from.

directfiesta 02-27-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19997636)
Legally.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yep, americans ( already americans ... ? ) had their papers in order when they arrived ...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

evy97 02-27-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19997636)
Legally.

https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/...97642983_n.jpg

_Richard_ 02-27-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ING82 (Post 19997711)
Nobody is native to North America you stupid fucks! Indians didn't just sprout out from the ground!

You want to debate anything I'm open anytime I love proving brainwashed liberal idiots wrong that learned everything they know about there country from high school history class.

They want the White man's land back that was sold to them because now they see the value of it (Indian givers), civilization and welfare, but they don't want the White Man in it even though Europeans built everything.

Fucking Aboriginals should pack up and go back to China where they came from.

something tells me you don't get many takers for that debate :winkwink:

dyna mo 02-27-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 19998002)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I think the saddest part of the internet are the people who believe memes.

Actual # is closer to about 25,000 max killed by EUROPEANS and their descendants.

L-Pink 02-27-2014 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 19998002)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Where do people dig this shit up? 100 million Indians? What a stupid statement, that's more than the entire population of North America at the time, whites included. Our current population is only 300 million.


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deltav 02-27-2014 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19998013)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I think the saddest part of the internet are the people who believe memes.

Actual # is closer to about 25,000 max killed by EUROPEANS and their descendants.

Ahh, gotta love the irony of countering an exaggeratedly high figure not based in accepted historical research with an exaggeratedly low one not based in research.

The population estimates from actual historians of pre-Columbian North American (i.e. excluding SA) range from 1-2 million to around 20 million. After the bulk of them died, it actually took centuries for many regions to climb back to their pre Columbian population levels.

PR_Glen 02-27-2014 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19997669)
Popular theory is that native Americans came here when a land bridge still existed near Alaska (no proof of this land bridge exists). There is however a growing belief that the Chinese sailed the Pacific and native Americans are descendants of the (possibly shipwrecked) Chinese.

It is also becoming more accepted that Vikings sailed the Atlantic and landed in America also. So it could very well be that the native Americans people like to think of as having claim to America are actually a mix of Asians and Europeans.

That makes more sense than a hypothetical land bridge that exists only because we need a way to explain how people got here before Columbus.

i saw that on the history channel this week as well. Pretty interesting to say the least. Has some impressive physical evidence of it that gives it some weight also.

RyuLion 02-27-2014 11:37 AM

Wow, talk about pissed off and racist people..

dyna mo 02-27-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19998037)
Ahh, gotta love the irony of countering an exaggeratedly high figure not based in accepted historical research with an exaggeratedly low one not based in research.

The population estimates from actual historians of pre-Columbian North American (i.e. excluding SA) range from 1-2 million to around 20 million. After the bulk of them died, it actually took centuries for many regions to climb back to their pre Columbian population levels.

and I love people that point their fingers at others re: a lack of reseach without even showing 1 iota of being capable of research

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Various statistics have been developed concerning the devastation of the American Indian Wars on the peoples involved. One notable study by Gregory Michno used records dealing with figures "as a direct result of" engagements and concluded that "of the 21,586 total casualties tabulated in this survey, military personnel and civilians accounted for 6,596 (31%), while Indian casualties totaled about 14,990 (69%)."
I over-exaggerated, btw.

dyna mo 02-27-2014 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19998037)
Ahh, gotta love the irony of countering an exaggeratedly high figure not based in accepted historical research with an exaggeratedly low one not based in research.

The population estimates from actual historians of pre-Columbian North American (i.e. excluding SA) range from 1-2 million to around 20 million. After the bulk of them died, it actually took centuries for many regions to climb back to their pre Columbian population levels.

The truly funny and uninformed part of your finger pointing is the bulk of them (>90%) died due to disease.

deltav 02-27-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19998051)
and I love people that point their fingers at others re: a lack of reseach without even showing 1 iota of being capable of research

Welp, I *did* take multiple classes on pre-Columbian & colonial New World history for my degree - I'm no expert by any means, but I did have to study primary and secondary sources so I've got a decent idea what the research indicates. The range I cited is pretty well accepted among historians.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19998061)
The truly funny and uninformed part of your finger pointing is the bulk of them (>90%) died due to disease.

This is true, give or take.

Sly 02-27-2014 11:52 AM

Natives battled and killed just like white man, just like every civilization.

Meanwhile, white man damn near wiped out the bison. Let's fight about that instead. Had a bison burger last night, was good.

dyna mo 02-27-2014 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19998062)
Welp, I *did* take multiple classes on pre-Columbian & colonial New World history for my degree - I'm no expert by any means, but I did have to study primary and secondary sources so I've got a decent idea what the research indicates. The range I cited is pretty well accepted among historians.



This is true, give or take.

So you do not have any actual research, links, anything to back up your silly comment. Got it.

You're not the only one here with a degree in history, wait, not even a degree, a few courses.

too funny.

deltav 02-27-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19998074)
So you do not have any actual research, links, anything to back up your silly comment. Got it.

You're not the only one here with a degree in history, wait, not even a degree, a few courses.

too funny.

Ok man, whatever you say. I am citing the generally accepted population figures, removing the crazy non-credible outliers on both sides.

I think there is miscommunication in that you're citing deaths by direct violence, which yes, were probably not in the millions. It should be noted though that the 14k figure referenced above is only referring to a 40 year period of battles in the Western US, not anywhere close to the full colonial/expansion period or range of conflicts. It's also based only on US Army estimates rather than corroborated elsewhere.

evy97 02-27-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19998013)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I think the saddest part of the internet are the people who believe memes.

Actual # is closer to about 25,000 max killed by EUROPEANS and their descendants.

What are you talking about? North American Indian population went from an 15 million in 1500 to barely 230 000 in 1910.


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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19998018)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Where do people dig this shit up? 100 million Indians? What a stupid statement, that's more than the entire population of North America at the time, whites included. Our current population is only 300 million.


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Sorry to disappoint you. But..

http://i.imgur.com/QCsSoKf.png

dyna mo 02-27-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19998091)
Ok man, whatever you say. I am citing the generally accepted population figures, removing the crazy non-credible outliers on both sides.

I think there is miscommunication in that you're citing deaths by direct violence, which yes, were probably not in the millions. It should be noted though that the 14k figure referenced above is only referring to a 40 year period of battles in the Western US, not anywhere close to the full colonial/expansion period or range of conflicts. It's also based only on US Army estimates rather than corroborated elsewhere.

I'm not trying to win an I'm right you're wrong thing here. I'm always open to facts and reality, I prefer them. But you haven't provided any evidence that corroborates your comments.

Matt 26z 02-27-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 19997803)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yep, americans ( already americans ... ? ) had their papers in order when they arrived ...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

It's funny how the open borders advocates fall back on the "stolen native land" argument every single time. Where do you think Mexicans came from? Their bloodline is Spanish conquerors.

Better get the hell out of Mexico and go back to Spain!!!! Give Mexico to the native Americans who rightfully own it!!!!

dyna mo 02-27-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 19998093)
What are you talking about? North American Indian population went from an 15 million in 1500 to barely 230 000 in 1910.




Sorry to disappoint you. But..

http://i.imgur.com/QCsSoKf.png

you don't disappoint me in slightest. You actually confirm my view re: you.

Are you really trying to argue that pictures depicts American soil, as your meme states? And that the white man intentionally inflicted Indians with diseases such as small pox in order to wipe them out?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rochard 02-27-2014 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 19998002)

Yeah, no.... There was never a "100 million" Indians. Estimates are two million to ten million. And the vast majority of them died from disease.

dyna mo 02-27-2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19998112)
Yeah, no.... There was never a "100 million" Indians. Estimates are two million to ten million. And the vast majority of them died from disease.

Let's take a fair middle ground on these numbers and say 5million.

estimates show well over 90% of them were wiped out with disease, let's choose a low estimate, say 92%.

8% of 5m leaves 400,000. and let's assume that 230,00 remaining Indians in 1910

= 170,000 killed by Europeans and their descendants, of which the US Army killed ~20,000.

L-Pink 02-27-2014 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 19998093)
What are you talking about? North American Indian population went from an 15 million in 1500 to barely 230 000 in 1910.




Sorry to disappoint you. But..

http://i.imgur.com/QCsSoKf.png

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 02-27-2014 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19998146)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

apparently *Americans* were so zealous in killing INdians we ventured all the way down to the Southern tip of SOuth America to get em!

klinton 02-27-2014 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19998112)
And the vast majority of them died from disease.

now this is CLASSIC:1orglaugh


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