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DVTimes 11-01-2012 06:05 AM

Kim Dotcom reveals Mega to replace Megaupload file-sharing site
 
Kim Dotcom has announced plans for Mega, a service to replace his shut down file-sharing website Megaupload.

Mega is expected to use encryption methods which will mean only users will know what they are uploading.

It will be decided in March whether Mr Dotcom should be extradited from New Zealand to the US to face charges relating to copyright theft.

The 38-year-old said he would launch Mega on 20 January 2013 - a year to the day since his arrest.

By keeping details of files uploaded on Mega secret from the site's administrators, Mr Dotcom said he believed this would mean the site was not in violation of US laws.

"The new Mega will not be threatened by US prosecutors," he said.

"The new Mega avoids any dealings with US hosters, US domains and US backbone providers and has changed the way it operates to avoid another takedown."

'LOL!!!'

Announcing the new site on Twitter, Mr Dotcom said the holding page - hosted at Me.ga - was already getting "millions" of hits.

He said many of the visits were from US authorities themselves, tweeting: "All FBI agents pressing reload hahaha... We see their IP addresses. LOL!!!"

Exact details of the encryption methods on the upcoming site have not been released. However, it appears to look to shift responsibility for unlawful content onto the users, rather than the site's owners.

"In the past, securely storing and transferring confidential information required the installation of dedicated software," a message on Mega's holding page said.

"The new Mega encrypts and decrypts your data transparently in your browser, on the fly. You hold the keys to what you store in the cloud, not us."

In an interview with Reuters, Mr Dotcom suggested that content owners might even get direct access to users' uploaded files "if they agree not to make us responsible for actions of users".

The site's servers will not be hosted in the US, Mr Dotcom added. A page on the Mega site makes a plea to encourage more investors for the service.

"We have raised sufficient funds to cover the launch," the message reads, "but we would like to provide Mega free of charge for as long as possible."

Mr Dotcom had previously released details of a sister service, Megabox, which will offer music-related downloads.

Unlawful raid

Mr Dotcom - formerly Kim Schmitz - currently resides in his New Zealand mansion which was raided by local authorities at the start of this year.

The raid and seizure of assets was later deemed illegal by a New Zealand court.

It was also later ruled that intelligence agencies had illegally spied on Mr Dotcom - an incident which drew an apology from New Zealand Prime Minister John Key.

"We failed to provide that appropriate protection for him," he said.

"It is the GCSB's [Government Communications Security Bureau] responsibility to act within the law, and it is hugely disappointing that in this case its actions fell outside the law."

If extradited and convicted in the US, Mr Dotcom faces up to 20 years in prison.

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DVTimes 11-01-2012 06:05 AM

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...1_63852490.jpg

L-Pink 11-01-2012 06:06 AM

Hope he has a coronary for Christmas.

Paul Markham 11-01-2012 06:48 AM

Who will he use to pay for it?

freecartoonporn 11-01-2012 07:11 AM

site not loading for me., looks like his shared hosting exceeding limits., lol

Nautilus 11-01-2012 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19286359)
Who will he use to pay for it?

http://i.imgur.com/9cPuh.jpg?1

CaptainHowdy 11-01-2012 09:56 AM

Alrighty then ...

Nathan 11-01-2012 09:57 AM

The thing that amazes me is that he actually does not seem to understand WHY he broke the law...

BIGTYMER 11-01-2012 10:02 AM

Dudes just asking for it.

lucas131 11-01-2012 10:04 AM

cool cant wait ...

seeandsee 11-01-2012 10:44 AM

uploaders will rise it if there is aff cash

BIGTYMER 11-01-2012 10:48 AM

Never fear for AdultKing is near.

mikke 11-01-2012 10:48 AM

1 nuke and gabon will be history..

Just Alex 11-01-2012 11:14 AM

So what he's saying is his old site WAS indeed in violation of US laws?

Killswitch 11-01-2012 12:26 PM

http://i.imgur.com/aZoE6.jpg

pornguy 11-01-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 19286769)
So what he's saying is his old site WAS indeed in violation of US laws?

Yep and now he plans to get around them any way he can.

My favorite part is that he wont have a domain that has anything to do with the US.. Sadly the DNS routers are in the US.

halfpint 11-01-2012 03:26 PM

site doesent even work correctly in Firefox lol

damm if you type "Mega" in google its the first result already.. kim.com/mega/

baryl 11-01-2012 03:29 PM

I guess payment processing will be putting a wad of cash in an envelope and sending it through the postal mail.

davethedope 11-01-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikke (Post 19286728)
1 nuke and gabon will be history..

What does Gabon have to do with it?

halfpint 11-01-2012 03:40 PM

One of the more unique wrinkles of the new service may come from Mega’s decision not to deploy so-called de-duplication on its servers, meaning that if a user decides to upload the same copyright-infringing file 100 times, it would result in 100 different files and 100 distinct decryption keys. Removing them would require 100 takedown notices of the type typically sent by rights holders like movie studios and record companies.

what a dick

Now you watch all the other file locker sites do the same thing

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...gaupload-mega/

If this gets going its going to be a nightmare to send DMCA's

PAR 11-01-2012 04:00 PM

Wasn't he talking about this and working on it before they grabbed him?
Filesharing site that in some way pays the content owners..

PAR 11-01-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19289634)
One of the more unique wrinkles of the new service may come from Mega?s decision not to deploy so-called de-duplication on its servers, meaning that if a user decides to upload the same copyright-infringing file 100 times, it would result in 100 different files and 100 distinct decryption keys. Removing them would require 100 takedown notices of the type typically sent by rights holders like movie studios and record companies.

what a dick

Now you watch all the other file locker sites do the same thing

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...gaupload-mega/

If this gets going its going to be a nightmare to send DMCA's

Agree that its a dick move..
Even more so if they were to GEO the files and change the ID based on what server in the cloud it was on.

1 file then could result in 100+ take downs and somewhat a mega pain in the ass to find every link.

L-Pink 11-01-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 19289682)
Wasn't he talking about this and working on it before they grabbed him?
Filesharing site that in some way pays the content owners..

And if the content owners got even a nickel it would be on HIS terms not their terms. Fuck him and fuck that.

halfpint 11-01-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 19289688)
Agree that its a dick move..
Even more so if they were to GEO the files and change the ID based on what server in the cloud it was on.

1 file then could result in 100+ take downs and somewhat a mega pain in the ass to find every link.

Before you could even view the file you would need a key because it will be encrypted which in itself would be a pain to try and get a hold off

If the smaller filelockers start to follow suit this is gonna be one mega fuck up for copyright holders trying to send DMCA's

These fuckers always seem to be one step ahead of the law

Nautilus 11-01-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19289634)
One of the more unique wrinkles of the new service may come from Mega?s decision not to deploy so-called de-duplication on its servers, meaning that if a user decides to upload the same copyright-infringing file 100 times, it would result in 100 different files and 100 distinct decryption keys. Removing them would require 100 takedown notices of the type typically sent by rights holders like movie studios and record companies.

That would also require 100 times more of the storage space.

brassmonkey 11-01-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 19286657)
cool cant wait ...


:anon :costumed13

halfpint 11-01-2012 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19289705)
That would also require 100 times more of the storage space.

They are not going to be on one server. The plan is to have servers all over the world. So space is not going to bother them

What is worrying is that one person could upload the same file to 50 servers all over the wrold encrypted and needing a key and how are you going to know what the file is unless the uploader shares it with you.

This is where you need somebody on the inside of the file sharing community

http://kim.com/mega/#/hosting

Nautilus 11-01-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 19289688)
1 file then could result in 100+ take downs and somewhat a mega pain in the ass to find every link.

That would result in you sending 100 DMCAs instead of one to his billing company, or to VISA/MC. Fat fag will get his thieving thing terminated faster than you can press your "send" button. And then he's free to offer to his surfers some other popular payment options like the one below...

http://i.imgur.com/twduE.jpg?1

Nautilus 11-01-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19289712)
They are not going to be on one server. The plan is to have servers all over the world. So space is not going to bother them

As if servers are free only because they're all over the world. Even in Gabon you need to pay for each and every server which you're using. 100x more storage space - 100x more expensive (well in reality it's not that simple, but you got the idea).

mikesouth 11-01-2012 04:30 PM

Im sure LiveJasmin, and Manwin are already writing checks for advertising

halfpint 11-01-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19289722)
As if servers are free only because they're all over the world. Even in Gabon you need to pay for each and every server which you're using. 100x more storage space - 100x more expensive (well in reality it's not that simple, but you got the idea).

Yep know what u are on about but more servers means more space and I honstly dont think kim gives two fucks about that either otherwise he wouldent allow it.

Ultimately, Dotcom envisions a network hosted by thousands of different entities with thousands of different servers, in countries all over the world.

?We?re creating a system where any host in the world ? from the $2,000 garage operation to the largest online host ? can connect their own servers to this network,? Dotcom says. ?We can work with anybody, because the hosts themselves cannot see what?s on the servers.?


He is just an outright dickface and is going to cause so much hassle to copyright holders

halfpint 11-01-2012 04:41 PM

Im wondering if the smaller filelockers will also be able to plug into his system, then they can say, well we cant see whats on the servers as we havent got keys for the files

Nautilus 11-01-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19289734)
Yep know what u are on about but more servers means more space and I honstly dont think kim gives two fucks about that either otherwise he wouldent allow it.

Ultimately, Dotcom envisions a network hosted by thousands of different entities with thousands of different servers, in countries all over the world

For servers he'd need to give money, not fucks lol. And what hosting provider would give a fuck what some delusioned and desperate to save his fat ass guy "envisions" if he doesn't have money to pay for servers? Which he doesn't and wouldn't have because he will never find long term and sustainable processing relationships. No hoster is going to join this thieving network for some idealistic utopean reasons of fucking US gummint and Hollywood moguls. They'd do it for money, but without money - no dough, sorry.

halfpint 11-01-2012 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19289763)
For servers he'd need to give money, not fucks lol. And what hosting provider would give a fuck what some delusioned and desperate to save his fat ass guy "envisions" if he doesn't have money to pay for servers? Which he doesn't and wouldn't have because he will never find long term and sustainable processing relationships. No hoster is going to join this thieving network for some idealistic utopean reasons of fucking US gummint and Hollywood moguls. They'd do it for money, but without money - no dough, sorry.

Well I guess time will tell what happens

Nautilus 11-01-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19289744)
Im wondering if the smaller filelockers will also be able to plug into his system, then they can say, well we cant see whats on the servers as we havent got keys for the files

They can plug directly into Kim Dotcom's fat ass for all we care. Without processing relationships that wouldn't terminate them for too many DMCAs, no amount of keys or encryption of whatever is going to help them.

And if they will find such relationships (just in theory), they will not need Kim and his network - they can just go on about their business as they always did.

Nautilus 11-01-2012 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19289727)
Im sure LiveJasmin, and Manwin are already writing checks for advertising

You cannot sustain a file locker on advertising. Alot of them tried and failed. And that file locker is going to be even more expensive to run than the standard one, because of higher requirements for server space.

VIXEN ESCORTS 11-01-2012 05:22 PM

That's ironic, one content stealing cunt advertising the activities of another....difference ?? Fat boy has some brains !

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 19286305)
Kim Dotcom has announced plans for Mega, a service to replace his shut down file-sharing website Megaupload.

Mega is expected to use encryption methods which will mean only users will know what they are uploading.

It will be decided in March whether Mr Dotcom should be extradited from New Zealand to the US to face charges relating to copyright theft.

The 38-year-old said he would launch Mega on 20 January 2013 - a year to the day since his arrest.

By keeping details of files uploaded on Mega secret from the site's administrators, Mr Dotcom said he believed this would mean the site was not in violation of US laws.

"The new Mega will not be threatened by US prosecutors," he said.

"The new Mega avoids any dealings with US hosters, US domains and US backbone providers and has changed the way it operates to avoid another takedown."

'LOL!!!'

Announcing the new site on Twitter, Mr Dotcom said the holding page - hosted at Me.ga - was already getting "millions" of hits.

He said many of the visits were from US authorities themselves, tweeting: "All FBI agents pressing reload hahaha... We see their IP addresses. LOL!!!"

Exact details of the encryption methods on the upcoming site have not been released. However, it appears to look to shift responsibility for unlawful content onto the users, rather than the site's owners.

"In the past, securely storing and transferring confidential information required the installation of dedicated software," a message on Mega's holding page said.

"The new Mega encrypts and decrypts your data transparently in your browser, on the fly. You hold the keys to what you store in the cloud, not us."

In an interview with Reuters, Mr Dotcom suggested that content owners might even get direct access to users' uploaded files "if they agree not to make us responsible for actions of users".

The site's servers will not be hosted in the US, Mr Dotcom added. A page on the Mega site makes a plea to encourage more investors for the service.

"We have raised sufficient funds to cover the launch," the message reads, "but we would like to provide Mega free of charge for as long as possible."

Mr Dotcom had previously released details of a sister service, Megabox, which will offer music-related downloads.

Unlawful raid

Mr Dotcom - formerly Kim Schmitz - currently resides in his New Zealand mansion which was raided by local authorities at the start of this year.

The raid and seizure of assets was later deemed illegal by a New Zealand court.

It was also later ruled that intelligence agencies had illegally spied on Mr Dotcom - an incident which drew an apology from New Zealand Prime Minister John Key.

"We failed to provide that appropriate protection for him," he said.

"It is the GCSB's [Government Communications Security Bureau] responsibility to act within the law, and it is hugely disappointing that in this case its actions fell outside the law."

If extradited and convicted in the US, Mr Dotcom faces up to 20 years in prison.

[LINK]


halfpint 11-01-2012 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19289776)
They can plug directly into Kim Dotcom's fat ass for all we care. Without processing relationships that wouldn't terminate them for too many DMCAs, no amount of keys or encryption of whatever is going to help them.

And if they will find such relationships (just in theory), they will not need Kim and his network - they can just go on about their business as they always did.

ok how are you going to send a dmca to a file which you cant see or the host cant see if its encrypted and you or the host havent got the key You would need somebody who knew the uploader to find out what the file was and get the key

Doesent matter if Mega or the small filelockers start to do this it is going to cause major headaches for copyright holders

The hosts are simply gonna say " We cant see what is on the server because its encypted and we havent got the key"

Nautilus 11-01-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19289817)
ok how are you going to send a dmca to a file which you cant see or the host cant see if its encrypted and you or the host havent got the key You would need somebody who knew the uploader to find out what the file was and get the key

Doesent matter if Mega or the small filelockers start to do this it is going to cause major headaches for copyright holders

The hosts are simply gonna say " We cant see what is on the server because its encypted and we havent got the key"

I DMCA encrypted files all day long, it's nothing new. It doesn't matter for a billing company if the link is encrypted - I swear under penalty of perjury that content is mine, and they add a "strike" to a file locker's profile. Several of such strikes, they're out. That's how it works. They do not check links, they take my word for granted.

slapass 11-01-2012 05:48 PM

When they upload the file they get the key. They then post the link and key to their favorite message board/boards. So the difference between then and now is? You will see that it is your content and send a DMCA. He still needs to comply even if he can't see the file. If he is paying them to do it, he will be in the same boat as he is paying for uploaded content that he knows will have copyrighted material.
What if you lose a key? Does he make a new one for you? So he can make a key and enter your files. The whole thing is just a ruse.


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