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halfpint 11-01-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19289845)
I DMCA encrypted files all day long, it's nothing new. It doesn't matter for a billing company if the link is encrypted - I swear under penalty of perjury that content is mine, and they add a "strike" to a file locker's profile. Several of such strikes, they're out. That's how it works. They do not check links, they take my word for granted.

yeah right

I dont think you see what this cunt is doing he is pushing file sharing underground so to speak, so it is going to be very hard to find out who is sharing what and I can bet your ass all the other file lockers will follow suit if he makes this a success.

Nautilus 11-01-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19289853)
yeah right

I dont think you see what this cunt is doing he is pushing file sharing underground so to speak, so it is going to be very hard to find out who is sharing what and I can bet your ass all the other file lockers will follow suit if he makes this a success.

No I see what he's trying to do and what I'm trying to tell you is that it isn't going to work. Half of the uploaders are using encrypted password protected rars, it's nothing new. You can not see what they "share" (if you're only checking files found at server and do not see message board posts) and it didn't help any of the 500+ file lockers which got their accounts terminated since July. Hiding "who shares what" is pointless - it may save some of the individual uploaders from being a collateral when a server is seized (but the ones that were targeted and had there message board posts recorded are still fucked), but it will save none of the file lockers.

halfpint 11-01-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 19289847)
When they upload the file they get the key. They then post the link and key to their favorite message board/boards. So the difference between then and now is? You will see that it is your content and send a DMCA. He still needs to comply even if he can't see the file. If he is paying them to do it, he will be in the same boat as he is paying for uploaded content that he knows will have copyrighted material.
What if you lose a key? Does he make a new one for you? So he can make a key and enter your files. The whole thing is just a ruse.

you most prob will get that at first with some of them then the uploaders will say shit like email me for the key only trusted friends will get it Once they have the file they will upload it again with a diff key and so it will go round in circles.

And what cuntface is doing is taking responsibility away from the hosts and on to the uploaders so my guess is they will be very carefull who they give the keys to becuase they know it will fall on thier head if they get caught

halfpint 11-01-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19289875)
No I see what he's trying to do and what I'm trying to tell you is that it isn't going to work. Half of the uploaders are using encrypted password protected rars, it's nothing new. You can not see what they "share" (if you're only checking files found at server and do not see message board posts) and it didn't help any of the 500+ file lockers which got their accounts terminated since July. Hiding "who shares what" is pointless - it may save some of the individual uploaders from being a collateral when a server is seized (but the ones that were targeted and had there message board posts recorded are still fucked), but it will save none of the file lockers.

So you have been sending out DMCA's and have no idea what the actual rar contained ? Only from what was put on message boards ? damm thats risky lol but fair play to you

With this system the file wont even have a name like they name rar files it will just be numbers and letters that is where I see the problem when you send a DMCA all they will see is a file with numbers and letters no actual name unless you have the key to unlock it

Nautilus 11-01-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19289877)
you most prob will get that at first with some of them then the uploaders will say shit like email me for the key only trusted friends will get it Once they have the file they will upload it again with a diff key and so it will go round in circles.

You of course do realize that they can do exactly that right now (send passwords to rars or even links to trusted surfers only through pm or e-mail) but are not doing it because they'll lose 99.9% of their traffic.

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And what cuntface is doing is taking responsibility away from the hosts and on to the uploaders so my guess is they will be very carefull who they give the keys to becuase they know it will fall on thier head if they get caught
Responsibility for hosts is still there, because their responsibility does not depend on whether a file is encrypted or not. When they get DMCA, they should remove whether they understand what was in that file or not. And add a "strike" to an uploader's profile - well, in theory. In practice 99% of them of course do not add any "strikes" no matter how many DMCAs uploaders get. That's why we DMCA billing companies - they DO record strikes. Well some rogue billing companies don't, but then you have VISA/MC to fuck them.

Phoenix 11-01-2012 06:22 PM

historically...there have only been two ends to piracy
the end of a noose...or they become king of their own little island somewhere

brassmonkey 11-01-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VIXEN ESCORTS (Post 19289801)
That's ironic, one content stealing cunt advertising the activities of another....difference ?? Fat boy has some brains !

he's not fat! he big boned :2 cents:

halfpint 11-01-2012 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19289907)
he's not fat! he big boned :2 cents:

he is obese and hopefully will very soon have a heart attack :2 cents:

Nautilus 11-01-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19289898)
So you have been sending out DMCA's and have no idea what the actual rar contained ? Only from what was put on message boards ? damm thats risky lol but fair play to you

With this system the file wont even have a name like they name rar files it will just be numbers and letters that is where I see the problem when you send a DMCA all they will see is a file with numbers and letters no actual name unless you have the key to unlock it

Of course I have an idea of what's in that file - when I see a post on a message board featuring screenshot from our video and a download link, I have a pretty damn good idea of what's going to be in that file. If you're asking whether I download all links to make it absolutely sure the video is mine - of course I don't. And I'm not required to - I'm required to send DMCA when I have a belief in good faith that content is mine. Screenshot + download link = good faith belief.

File names do not matter at all. Since a very long time most of the uploaders use random file names to avoid spiders or sometimes to even hide the real meaning of their files from file lockers - when they do not allow porn for example. It didn't change anything in the scheme above. No billing company is going to say they're not going to put a strike on record because the file name is 16763mna.rar and not stolen_video_from_your_program.wmv.

brassmonkey 11-01-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19289915)
he is obese and hopefully will very soon have a heart attack :2 cents:

you wishing death on him? :helpme

halfpint 11-01-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19289925)
Of course I have an idea of what's in that file - when I see a post on a message board featuring screenshot from our video and a download link, I have a pretty damn good idea of what's going to be in that file. If you're asking whether I download all links to make it absolutely sure the video is mine - of course I don't. And I'm not required to - I'm required to send DMCA when I have a belief in good faith that content is mine. Screenshot + download link = good faith belief.

File names do not matter at all. Since a very long time most of the uploaders use random file names to avoid spiders or sometimes to even hide the real meaning of their files from file lockers - when they do not allow porn for example. It didn't change anything in the scheme above. No billing company is going to say they're not going to put a strike on record because the file name is 16763mna.rar and not stolen_video_from_your_program.wmv.

Very cool

nice disscussion too :) I enjoyed it

off to bed now got an early start and its almost 2 am here lol

halfpint 11-01-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19289927)
you wishing death on him? :helpme

heart attack dosent allways mean death, but obese people are more likely to die from heart attacks :thumbsup

VenusBlogger 11-01-2012 10:13 PM

This forum is full of fucking HYPOCRITES....

Fucking HYPOCRITES...

A LOT OF PEOPLE here say one thing, and then do another...

Im sure a lot of people here are already checking the investors link or the API link...

fucking HYPOCRITES.

Same as when you talk shit about Man-Win, but then 500 of you APPLY for a job there.

I seriously don't understand why a lot of people here say one thing, and then do another...

WTF is wrong with you people?

And then you justify yourself saying: "Money talks, champ"...

Fucking HYPOCRITES.

PIRIOD.

BIGTYMER 11-01-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19290131)
This forum is full of fucking HYPOCRITES....

Fucking HYPOCRITES...

A LOT OF PEOPLE here say one thing, and then do another...

Im sure a lot of people here are already checking the investors link or the API link...

fucking HYPOCRITES.

Same as when you talk shit about Man-Win, but then 500 of you APPLY for a job there.

I seriously don't understand why a lot of people here say one thing, and then do another...

WTF is wrong with you people?

And then you justify yourself saying: "Money talks, champ"...

Fucking HYPOCRITES.

PIRIOD.

Watch your mouth. Don't group all of us into one. Many of us don't ride the Manwin train.

kane 11-01-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19290131)
This forum is full of fucking HYPOCRITES....

Fucking HYPOCRITES...

A LOT OF PEOPLE here say one thing, and then do another...

Im sure a lot of people here are already checking the investors link or the API link...

fucking HYPOCRITES.

Same as when you talk shit about Man-Win, but then 500 of you APPLY for a job there.

I seriously don't understand why a lot of people here say one thing, and then do another...

WTF is wrong with you people?

And then you justify yourself saying: "Money talks, champ"...

Fucking HYPOCRITES.

PIRIOD.

The other day I noticed something like this. People bash Manwin, understandably. Then Dean Capture comes in and posts some pics he has shot for Twistys (now owned by Manwin) and everyone tells him how great they are. So somehow he gets a pass working for Manwin.

I have been a fan of Dean's for a long time and I understand when you shoot content sometimes you just have to shoot for who is paying and not get involved in the politics, but it did seem a little hypocritical.

VenusBlogger 11-02-2012 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19290163)
The other day I noticed something like this. People bash Manwin, understandably. Then Dean Capture comes in and posts some pics he has shot for Twistys (now owned by Manwin) and everyone tells him how great they are. So somehow he gets a pass working for Manwin.

I have been a fan of Dean's for a long time and I understand when you shoot content sometimes you just have to shoot for who is paying and not get involved in the politics, but it did seem a little hypocritical.

True dat, man...

It really makes puke when people are so fucking HYPOCRITE...

Lots of people here talk shit about ManWin, but then go to manwin.com/careers.php to apply for a job on their company... or at least send a CV there, that's for sure. They already have almost 700 adult webmasters working there, just check their page...

A LOT of people here are so FALSE... Seriously.

Big-Timer, I said a lot of people... of course not everyone...

Dirty F 11-02-2012 01:06 AM

Amazing what people will do to making illegal sharing possible. It's like their lives depend on it.

BIGTYMER 11-02-2012 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19290269)
True dat, man...

It really makes puke when people are so fucking HYPOCRITE...

Lots of people here talk shit about ManWin, but then go to manwin.com/careers.php to apply for a job on their company... or at least send a CV there, that's for sure. They already have almost 700 adult webmasters working there, just check their page...

A LOT of people here are so FALSE... Seriously.

Big-Timer, I said a lot of people... of course not everyone...

Ahh. My bad.

pimpmaster9000 11-02-2012 02:46 AM

if future me.ga users can easily get encryption keys then so can content owners...nothing has changed...

if future me.ga users can not easily get encryption keys then nobody has nothing to worry about the file sharing will be reduced to a minimum...

the fact that he will encrypt the same file many times just gives the content owner many many many many many many DMCA-s because all these unique keys have to be given out somewhere and it has to be easily accessible or the whole plain aint worth shit...

Nautilus 11-02-2012 02:49 AM

Interesting info from TF comments.

If we are to give Wikipedia any credibility, .ga TLD is run by Gabon's now privatized phone company, owned by Maroc Telecom, which in turn is controlled by the french company Vivendi, a telecommunication-media conglomerate. You might also have heard about Vivendi-Universal. Way to go, fatso.

While any domain dispute would be run under Gabon's jurisdiction, a small african state wouldn't need more than a wink from big brother U.S. to shutdown the site. See the recent Cambodia vs. Sweeden TPB fiasco. Well, U.S vs. Gabon is like 100x that, and US is major oil importer from Gabon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabon-U...ates_relations

pimpmaster9000 11-02-2012 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19290345)
a small african state wouldn't need more than a wink from big brother U.S. to shutdown the site. See the recent Cambodia vs. Sweeden TPB fiasco. Well, U.S vs. Gabon is like 100x that, and US is major oil importer from Gabon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabon-U...ates_relations[/I]

exactly...small 3rd world countries will do ANYTHING for a little money from ANYBODY...

want to take down me.ga the easy way? pffffft there aint nothing to it you just have to offer some cash :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

.ga :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

seXXXhub 11-02-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19289582)
site doesent even work correctly in Firefox lol

damm if you type "Mega" in google its the first result already.. kim.com/mega/

yea it does, u need to use the flash scroll ;)

rebel23 11-02-2012 09:33 AM

where is AdultKing? is he working on the assumption that Kim will be extradited and prosecuted in the US or is he preparing to go after me.ga when it opens?

halfpint 11-02-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19290131)
This forum is full of fucking HYPOCRITES....

Fucking HYPOCRITES...

A LOT OF PEOPLE here say one thing, and then do another...

Im sure a lot of people here are already checking the investors link or the API link...

fucking HYPOCRITES.

Same as when you talk shit about Man-Win, but then 500 of you APPLY for a job there.

I seriously don't understand why a lot of people here say one thing, and then do another...

WTF is wrong with you people?

And then you justify yourself saying: "Money talks, champ"...

Fucking HYPOCRITES.

PIRIOD.

If this is aimed at me you got me all wrong. I have never had a problem with manwin and if you do a search on my posts you will find that out, and yes there are a lot of people on GFY who bitch about Manwin and then work for them or praise them in other threads.

I do how ever have a problem with this Mega shit because this guy is nothing to do with the adult biz and all he is interested in, is out right piracy and he is trying his very best to make it very hard for copyright holders to send out DMCA's

With tubes you can at least send out a DMCA and know that it will be taken down, with this Kim idiot he is not in the least interested in any of that or copyright holders rights at all.

VenusBlogger 11-02-2012 09:57 PM

Two more examples of fucking HYPOCRECY in this forum...

_I have seen MyFreeCams is one of the sponsors of one of biggest illegal forums online (planetsuzy.org)... What's the relation of CRAK REVENUE and MyFreeCams? Are they AWARE that Planetsuzy.org had a link to MyFreeCams on their forum? What do they think about it? AXEL? IM NOT ACCUSING here, IM ASKING, because I dont know what's the real LINK between MyFreeCams (Leo) and CRAK REVENUE, but I would like to know...

_Hosting companies would be very happy to contact KIM DOT COM in the background to make business with him (check investors page or mega)


Those above are two examples... YET, "SOME" people publicly seem to be supporting the closure of those illegal sites or file sharing, but in the background, they make business, right? So, WTF? Let's stop the hypocrecy... If you want to do business with them , dont say another thing in PUBLIC CONVENTIONS.. JUST SAYIN...


PIRIOD.

brassmonkey 11-02-2012 10:00 PM

:evil-laug :evil-laug :evil-laug


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