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femdomdestiny 09-20-2012 01:54 AM

Why No one is Buying
 
Why no one is buying anymore? Don't talk shit about record sales because they can't be (paysites). Ive talked to dozen webmasters and all of them are panicking. My revenue in september is halved. Same traffic, more work but conversions are probably worse ever.

CurrentlySober 09-20-2012 01:59 AM

A truthful answer would have to be cause they dont need to...

femdomdestiny 09-20-2012 02:00 AM

But why suddenly,until last month,everything was normal (last month is 1:985 what is more or less same for years) .Femdom niche is not so much available all over like other things.

AlexFS 09-20-2012 02:01 AM

Peter, I just hit you up on ICQ. Might have something your traffic would enjoy :)

lakerslive 09-20-2012 02:20 AM

i had my best period ever from sept 1 to 15th. Selling amateur to college porn. No joke. But this 2nd period of September slowed down a bit.

femdomdestiny 09-20-2012 02:30 AM

how long you are in this business?

BIGTYMER 09-20-2012 02:32 AM

This month has been above normal for me.

::knock on wood::

Captain Kawaii 09-20-2012 02:34 AM

From the 15th to the end of the month is supposed to be bad, for everybody. Stars lining up for 12-21-12.
Then.........all will be great until 12-20-12...............then. Hide.

CurrentlySober 09-20-2012 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 19200658)
But why suddenly,until last month,everything was normal (last month is 1:985 what is more or less same for years) .Femdom niche is not so much available all over like other things.

Dunno. You do occasionally get a 'tipping point' on non vanilla content. Then it somehow goes back to normal.

The stuff I shoot isn't available all over the tubes, but I get dead spots on occasion. More and more so these days...

BIGTYMER 09-20-2012 02:38 AM

Are you working on new updates, sites, projects, traffic sources? Or just running on autopilot?

femdomdestiny 09-20-2012 02:53 AM

most of my traffic is search engine. I've survived disaster from google that took most of my traffic , but again, conversions remaind the same. I have around 40 hand written blogs and traffic is more or less,the same in this problematic period. But conversions are those that suddenly dropped. It would be fine that it is just my problem but when I talk to other webmasters and paysite owners in same niche (away from forum here) they see exactly the same. I know that some bad periods can exist that are later mostly compensated with good days but (and happened before) but 20 days is too much.

mce 09-20-2012 04:51 AM

http://i.imgur.com/YNppl.jpg

The Porn Nerd 09-20-2012 08:56 AM

For you to be seeing this in the Fetish world, with niche sites like you have (great job, btw!!) then there IS something wrong I think. Fetish-heads love their shit. LOL

I'm seeing the same kind of patterns with my more 'mainstream' porn sites, if that's any help. :)

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-20-2012 08:57 AM

No love no long time?

Axel_Crak 09-20-2012 12:19 PM

Maybe you have a billing problem ?

If the traffic is still there and the same kind, i think you have a biller has issue...

1-15 sep was record period for crakmedia for sales total and ROI... but i did notice that some sponsors i know had some billing issue. well they will not admit.. but we know our traffic and ratio.... nothing change drasticily and fast . too many different surfers to have quick massive change

femdomdestiny 09-20-2012 12:32 PM

I am affiliate webmaster, most of sites I am promoting are CCbill and then Verotel. Sitation is same on both of them.

SwirlsGirl 09-20-2012 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axel_Crak (Post 19201745)
Maybe you have a billing problem ?

If the traffic is still there and the same kind, i think you have a biller has issue...

1-15 sep was record period for crakmedia for sales total and ROI... but i did notice that some sponsors i know had some billing issue. well they will not admit.. but we know our traffic and ratio.... nothing change drasticily and fast . too many different surfers to have quick massive change

Can you repeat that shit one more time...

"we know our traffic and ratio"
"too many surfers to have massive quick change"

Kind of like sunday and monday average 1/150 conversions then the very next 2 days conversions cease during "maintenance"

Again 1/150 for this past sunday and monday

then switch gets thrown tuesday and flat line ever since...

Oh but wait the form hits have not flat lined they are steady...

So we are expected to believe that sunday and monday in a dunkin donuts as long as people visit the store they will buy..

but then tuesday wednesday and thursday same people visit the store and no one buys...LOL

Or like 711 sunday and monday people are inside of 711 buying hot dogs, big gulps,etc..

but then tuesday, wednesday and thursday...same amount of visitors inside of 711 but 0% purchases...LOL

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Only in your dreams and delusions ...and only in our precious industry and only after 2-3 days of good sales....gotta love our collective blind insult level

0/2200 since tuesday!

oops our bad...we forgot to unplug the modem and click our heals 3 times to generate sales...LOL

Roald 09-20-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 19201783)
Can you repeat that shit one more time...

"we know our traffic and ratio"
"too many surfers to have massive quick change"

Kind of like sunday and monday average 1/150 conversions then the very next 2 days conversions cease during "maintenance"

Again 1/150 for this past sunday and monday

then switch gets thrown tuesday and flat line ever since...

Oh but wait the form hits have not flat lined they are steady...

So we are expected to believe that sunday and monday in a dunkin donuts as long as people visit the store they will buy..

but then tuesday wednesday and thursday same people visit the store and no one buys...LOL

Or like 711 sunday and monday people are inside of 711 buying hot dogs, big gulps,etc..

but then tuesday, wednesday and thursday...same amount of visitors inside of 711 but 0% purchases...LOL

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Only in your dreams and delusions ...and only in our precious industry and only after 2-3 days of good sales....gotta love our collective blind insult level

0/2200 since tuesday!

oops our bad...we forgot to unplug the modem and click our heals 3 times to generate sales...LOL

I think thats what he is saying.

stever 09-20-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19201793)
I think thats what he is saying.

:1orglaugh

mineistaken 09-20-2012 01:45 PM

I read couple more threads about september being bad for ccbill affiliates. Sales can not just dive in half (given that sample size = usuall daily/weekly sales is big enough)

Rochard 09-20-2012 01:58 PM

Business is the same for me this month...

Major (Tom) 09-20-2012 02:27 PM

this month is slightly slower than last year at this time. Nothing alarming though.
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Axel_Crak 09-20-2012 02:45 PM

@Swirlgirl

My english is far from perfect but i think enough to be understood...im saying exactly the same thing as you (tks Roald)

I dont believe in big sales ratios variation, and more on big numbers... if we do a steady 200 sales/day at one sponsor and it drop to 75 one day... well if i didnt change my traffic its not the economy or the client... the problem come from the Billler ...( we ve seen that a lot)

Or also it could be a technical problem from the webmaster, (page not loading, wrong redirection, etc etc etc)

SmutHammer 09-20-2012 02:51 PM

I'm making more this month than I have in the last year, But I did add another site...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axel_Crak (Post 19202042)
steady 200 sales/day at one sponsor

Is this a real number you get?

Major (Tom) 09-20-2012 02:57 PM

we've seen large fluctuations over the years. It happens. When it lasts for more than a day is when you pull the alarm. But tbh this is why I started my own program instead of promoting others. I want to be the one at the helm so I know when something is wrong, something is wrong.
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DavieVegas 09-20-2012 04:20 PM

Summer is ALWAYS WORSE then during the year. I lose 30% during the summer each month.

Penny24Seven 09-20-2012 04:29 PM

If you are doing less then 50 joins a day then you are wasting your time looking at stats and comparing yourself to the world. I have had days with 14 joins and the next 3 days I get 1-2 a day and then 10 the 5th day. That is just how it is. Now if you are doing 300 joins a day and always around there and have a day with 20 I would look into that but 99% are talking about 1-2 joins a day. 2 is great and 0 suck. Listen to Axel and Roland, you do not hear them ever making threads like this.

2012 09-20-2012 06:39 PM

things are shit. gas is through the roof. war war war fear fear fear granny can't pay the bills. the good news is , it's going to get worse. let's hope things get better, hope and change when we elect obama again ... the guy that signed the NDAA at midnight on new years

famous 09-20-2012 11:20 PM

why buy when you can get anything for free ;)

BIGTYMER 09-20-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by famous (Post 19202650)
why buy when you can get anything for free ;)

Why buy a car when you can steal one?

Paul Markham 09-21-2012 12:20 AM

What happens in one or two months isn't that important, unless living on the breadline. It's the over all trend that counts.

Make a spreadsheet to record, track and then plan how to adjust what you do to improve profits.

Asking others how they're doing isn't going to help. Because unless they're doing what you're doing and telling the truth. It's useless info.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1082442

rock-reed 09-21-2012 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 19202653)
Why buy a car when you can steal one?

Stealing a car is dangerous... the owner should shoot you, the cops will be on your ass... you could go to jail - because it is likely you will be caught.

Torrents for porn a quick, fast--- highly searchable and no one is really tracking down these people, its hard to find them and prosecute.

Major (Tom) 09-21-2012 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19202197)
If you are doing less then 50 joins a day then you are wasting your time looking at stats and comparing yourself to the world. I have had days with 14 joins and the next 3 days I get 1-2 a day and then 10 the 5th day. That is just how it is. Now if you are doing 300 joins a day and always around there and have a day with 20 I would look into that but 99% are talking about 1-2 joins a day. 2 is great and 0 suck. Listen to Axel and Roland, you do not hear them ever making threads like this.

I'd say a 100
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CHMOD 09-21-2012 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19202197)
If you are doing less then 50 joins a day then you are wasting your time looking at stats and comparing yourself to the world. I have had days with 14 joins and the next 3 days I get 1-2 a day and then 10 the 5th day. That is just how it is. Now if you are doing 300 joins a day and always around there and have a day with 20 I would look into that but 99% are talking about 1-2 joins a day. 2 is great and 0 suck. Listen to Axel and Roland, you do not hear them ever making threads like this.


I do not agree with you Brian. Pattern in sales has also to do with time. You look at a period of time and you compare the numbers. It doesn't matter if there are over 100 sales a day or 10 sales a day. There is still a curves that you can anayse. There is still a sale ratio to look at.

Of course, you are right when you say that you can't really see a pattern if you have 0-2 sales a day. But you can definately see a pattern with 5 - 20 sales a day if you've been checking numbers for a long enough period of time.

I think that 95% of the webmasters here are making between 0 and 20 sales a day. And they can surelly accuratly analyse their numbers as much as any bigger program.

I have been in the industry for 17 years now. Until 7 years ago, there where no yo-yo sales numbers like we see today. With Sliiing, I have the occasion to talk with many webmasters, many also state the same. I also find it extremly strange. Now I don't say that it relies on the billing company that we use. But there is something hapenning and I would also love to know what it is.

Matyko 09-21-2012 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19201932)
I read couple more threads about september being bad for ccbill affiliates. Sales can not just dive in half (given that sample size = usuall daily/weekly sales is big enough)

Strange I am now sharing my niftystats data about ccbill:

aug:
32sale/30rebill/1cb, 106k unq, $927 made, ratio: 1:3319
sep so far:
30sale/16rebill/1refund, 67.5k unq, $642 made, ratio: 1:2250

CCBill is going strong for me in last 4-6 months I think. I promote a few dozen programs, some are pretty bad in terms of conversion and they ruin my overall ratio as well, but this is still good I think.

Triple-A 09-21-2012 02:41 AM

My sales this month are way up, I'm happy and I'm sure my affiliates are happy with the increased sales as they are making more with us :)

and I changed the ccbill settings to maximise returns on exchange rates and it's not harmed us at all. Then again, we have a unique home produced spanking niche no other site has so if they want it, they'll pay for it.
Life is good! Planning an extra shoot with the extra income

Each to their own, I guess... :2 cents: :2 cents:

femdomdestiny 09-21-2012 03:30 AM

Interesting that you are doing so well with page that won't load.tested with 4 browsers and three different internet accesses.

The webpage at http://www.aaaspanking.com/tour1.htm has resulted in too many redirects. Clearing your cookies for this site or allowing third-party cookies may fix the problem. If not, it is possibly a server configuration issue and not a problem with your computer.
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Error 310 (net::ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS): There were too many redirects.

CurrentlySober 09-21-2012 03:34 AM

FWIW... http://www.aaaspanking.com/tour1.htm worked 1st time for me, 3 mins after you posted.

femdomdestiny 09-21-2012 03:35 AM

Ive thought you can't afford internet access.

CurrentlySober 09-21-2012 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 19202893)
Ive thought you can't afford internet access.

I steal my neighbours wifi :2 cents:


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