Members access for affiliates.
 

I see affiliates often asking for access to the interior of a site if they promote it.

Wonderful way to get full length movies for a Tube site. Login for free, download, convert and upload to your Tube and sell the ad space or promote Dating, Web Cams and Penis Pills. :thumbsup

I used to request access before affiliate programs even thought of distributing video promos for affiliates. Now it's common place.

The affiliate programs I like the best offer a 30 second to 3 minute mp4 promotional video and NOT a bunch of clips I have to mesh together. Makes it easier just to have one decent length promo clip, and also don't make the frame size too small. Make sure it's at least 720. Editors and tube scripts can always downsize it if need be but video does not look good at all upscaled.

We're in the Web 2.0 era so please distribute high resolution promotional photos with the video too. At least 1000 px wide.

Very few affiliates ask for this. Few look in the members area. Or look at the tour. Or the join page of who they promote

Don't be silly. Paul has said they do. So they do.

And then they steal your content and upload it to tube sites.

Damn them all to hell.

Great thread.

damn paul cracked the code. there goes that whole business model.

i ask that from time to time, one of the reasons is that i pick photos for promotion which are not in fhgs which everybody will use and the second reason is i want to check the product i am advertising myself.

That's very sad and probably if most of them looked they wouldn't know if the site was worth pushing or not. Which is sadder for the industry as a whole.

I know for $30 an affiliate can take what he wants. Still that's piracy. Putting up a full length video, and having a link on the Tube for the sponsor, makes it all legal. Ethical or moral isn't something going to worry some.

Then it's full steam selling ad space and other forms of adult entertainment.

I've had a few and with all we have in the affiliates area I say no. Still see the posts where affiliates are asking for it, which made me think about it.

Ripoffs won't work well, but with some agreements about licens and limitations, custom promotions work much better than the default affiliates area. If the affiliate can create and offer something more or less unique, he will put more time and effort into the promotion of the sponsor. Both will gain from that :thumbsup

If was in the Tube biz i would just get a trial to get that content.

i always ask for a UserName password...If they refuse, i don't promote them period.
Way too many shitty Member Areas nowadays with TONS of upsells and traffic leaks

Why would they bother when every scene is on the newsgroups.

1994 technology Paul, you should feel right at home there.

Ban all affiliates from using any media to promote programs. Back in the magazine days, publishers sold their mags by the text blurbs on the cover. Using pictures and videos to sell memberships to a site containing pictures and videos is giving too much away for free. All affiliates should be required to push traffic using only keyword rich text. :thumbsup

can i have access please? i am starting new tgp and want to put up there full galleries from your site, even if i will be making bank, i really dont have 30 usd to steal it without letting you know ... oh, man, have a nice weekend :)

Anyone who chooses to send traffic to my site is working with me and should be considered a partner. As part of that partnership I am more than happy to give them full access to my members area... it's only right your affiliates should know what they are promoting and trying to make money with, especially if they are revshare.

If they have the respect for you and want to promote your program, why not work with them?

Affiliates asking for 5-10minute video clips for tubes is different to full members are tube site rippers / Surfers. I'd rather work with other webmasters than against them.

I like to look in the members area just to judge if it's something that's going to bring in a lot of rebills or not.

as an aside when i was kid i was too young to buy porn mags so i would shoplift from from woolco and shoppers. i was the original porn pirate.

I really dont think the $24.95 matters much if you wanna rip a complete site for a tube

https://gfy.com/image.php?u=82747&dateline=1330871065

:thumbsup:thumbsup

:jerkoff :jerkoff

So limit the login to a certain number of IPs (this should be in place anyway) and set transfer limit for their specific IP and/or username.

Fortunately it's not something that YOU have to worry about, since your content is so bad that thieves won't take it for free. :1orglaugh Somehow surfers just don't buy into the idea that a couple of 30 year old Slavic girls grinning like Cheshire Cats (with one hovering 2 inches away from the other's vagina) are "real 18 year old lesbians". Don't even get me started on the same crappy flat-pack furniture you've been using for the past 20 years. And the lighting... looks like you invited Sirius over for a cup of tea. :1orglaugh

Ripoffs won't work well to get traffic. :1orglaugh

It's all about getting tons of free content to get traffic to sell ad space or send to dating, cams, penis pill sites as an affiliate. But thanks for the reply.

But it's good point about affiliates sticking to the terms of use. :1orglaugh

I think allowing access to a members area for affiliates who have already sent some sales is vital, it will allow us to grab and create some custom promo content that hasn't already saturated the free sites, it also gives an affiliate an idea of the product they are promoting, some members areas are just dreadful and offer nothing, well nothing you couldn't spend a few seconds googling and getting for free (usually via a tube!), so a good members area with model interactivity is (usually) great for affiliates to see so they know where to focus their promo and watch the rebills add up.

Tube sites are a great method of promotion when done properly, using promo content and following the sponsors terms of promo, a tube site offers easy to navigate and view solutions that most surfers know and love, but I also agree with Paul, as an affiliate it really is unfair to see tube sites full of full length movies and practically a full members area for free then see a bunch of ads and popups relating to dating or cams, but hey tolerance has allowed the big tubes to get big and have most of the traffic, you forget that many webmasters will upload full length videos themselves to take advantage of some of the traffic.

:2 cents::2 cents:

You have affiliates, Paul?

I get access so I can jackoff... plain and simple.

He's retired. I'm sure he used to have loads.

Wow!!!

You are a fucking genius!

Every successful affiliate program will gladly give member's area access. Paul won't do it and his program is a failure. Go figure.

i agree with paul he is a smart cookie

Don't need members access, I just visit the well known illegal tubes and look for that sponsor's content to download and edit :)

I'm going to go ahead and guess you're new to this business.

if the affiliate is sending sales, why dont give him access? if sponsor have problem, looks like he is scared to show us his crap :2 cents:

great thread paul

you really know your shit

sorry, i mean

you really know shit

So webmasters are expected to sell a website even though we cannot see the member's area? How do we know the member's area isn't pure crap?

I contacted a guy on GFY the other day asking for content or access to member's area. He said send sales first. Well, without content, I can't send traffic, so fuck off.

I'm just going to leave this here.

Ay yo. Astral Blue is requesting a review from us. Here's the infos..

Contact Name: Paul Markham
Site Url: http://www.astral-blue.com/tour
Site Login: adultsitesurfer
Site Password: REDACTED TO PROTECT THE INNOCENTS
Password Expiry: 26/06/2009
E-mail Address: [email protected]

NOTES: As you will see the site contains content I shot in the 80s and 90s while living in UK. The niches it covers are amateur, pornstars, page 3 girls, hairy pussy, solo,

lesbian and hardcore. We add new content 3-4 times a week.

We will have rotating banners inside the members area.

Paul

Peece.

I hear what you all are saying. If a person has devious intentions with your content then it will happen regardless.

BUTTTTTTTTTT - if your selling a product, being our partners/affiliates, they have to BELIEVEEEEEEEE in it! I happily grant our partners a password. I want them knowing my product and selling it accordingly. Motion creates emotion. *boiler room movie quotes*

Couple of points. Thanks for seeing the point I was trying to make. It flew over so many peoples heads. It has nothing to do with promoting the sponsor, it's about getting into a site, downloading a ton of full length videos to load to a tube. Which prime aim is to sell other sectors of porn.

Yes the easiest way to saturates content was always outside the members area, this applies to exclusive as well as non exclusive.

Yes some members areas are awful, great tour and crap members area. Many sites have the same or similar poor content that lacks any real porn power. Yet in an industry that worships driving traffic and relies on converting and retaining customers. It's no wonder the product wasn't thought of in the right way.

Tubes are great for giving away free porn, great for a few affiliates with less skills to create a sale, great for porn consumers, not bad for Dating, Cams and other sectors of porn and the slow death of the mainstream of porn. Recorded porn sellers.

IMO. Allowing affiliates into the members area to grab what they like to spread for free, in any form, just downgrades and saturates members area content even more.

Facepalm...
Dude, I often ask for member area access. we need it for writing paysite reviews. never ever abused the accounts.
Thinking the way in the OP is very stupid imo..

Paul, no one has done this with your content, as it isn't on the tube sites.

So, the question is, how do you know that affiliates ask for members' area access in order to get content for tube sites?

You wouldn't be just talking out of your bottom would you?

Obviously for a paysite review site access is needed 100%.

You don't abuse, but lets face it. Many are not so ethical.