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Choker 03-01-2012 12:35 PM

Ebay making it harder and harder to sell
 
Starting in May in order to get the 20% top rated discount off of seller fees you have to not only provide 1 day handling, but you have to have a tracking number entered by the next business day. And you have to offer 14 day returns instead of 3 or 7.

I understand that ebay is having trouble competing with Amazon and they need to improve their sellers service, but punishing them for not meeting higher standards is bullshit. Rewarding with a 25% discount instead of 20% if you meet thier new standards would get more sellers to comply.

JFK 03-01-2012 12:40 PM

Can you still do business on EBay? I gave up on it yrs ago:2 cents:

seeandsee 03-01-2012 12:43 PM

I cant even sell on ebay, i think our country will get paypal in next century

Choker 03-01-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 18793598)
Can you still do business on EBay? I gave up on it yrs ago:2 cents:

Yeah but it's very stressful.

edgeprod 03-01-2012 01:02 PM

Selling metal/coins on eBay is good business if you only want a few grand extra per month. Anything else isn't worth the hassle, IMO.

sandman! 03-01-2012 01:03 PM

ebay has been buyer centric fucking with sellers for years now.

BIGTYMER 03-01-2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 18793717)
ebay has been buyer centric fucking with sellers for years now.

Yup. They care only about the buyer.

combson 03-01-2012 03:58 PM

I have heard only bad words from my friends selling some rare items there recently!

F-U-Jimmy 03-01-2012 04:45 PM

If they drop Pay Pal and stop trying to be a poor mans Amazon they may stand a chance if not i give them 2 years tops before we see a chapter 13. There's some interesting shit on ebaysucks.com :2 cents:

Jakez 03-01-2012 04:48 PM

Only tried selling one there once before, the Nigerians kept doing buy it now on a laptop and ending the auction causing me to pay to open another one again. After that happened like 3 times in a row I said fuck this shit. I still have a -$26 balance on my account and ebay won't pay me it.

billywatson 03-01-2012 04:56 PM

I've heard nothing positive about eBay on the seller side now for a long, long time.

kane 03-01-2012 05:13 PM

I haven't sold anything on there in a few years. It used to be a breeze and they seemed to be genuinely interested in helping sellers out. Now It seems like they have taken a different turn and are almost trying to weed out the little guys by making it harder and harder for them to make any money.

NaughtyRob 03-01-2012 05:24 PM

My sister makes the bulk of her sales on ebay and for about 3 yrs now they have been implementing more and more restrictions making it way harder.

nm_ 03-01-2012 05:38 PM

fuck ebay/paypal. my power-seller account / business reputation on ebay was destroyed after a couple buyers decided to fuck me over with paypal disputes. paypal always sides with the buyer ;[

$5 submissions 03-01-2012 05:43 PM

They should stop trying to be Amazon and focus on providing stuff you can't get elsewhere (pricewise or selectionwise)

Choker 03-01-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18795167)
I haven't sold anything on there in a few years. It used to be a breeze and they seemed to be genuinely interested in helping sellers out. Now It seems like they have taken a different turn and are almost trying to weed out the little guys by making it harder and harder for them to make any money.

They are loosing business to amazon and instead of doing what has worked in the past they are trying to copy amazon. A seller can't even give a buyer neutral or negative feedback anymore. This defeats the whole purpose of a feedback system. They are so concerned about the buyers they screw the seller, what they dont think about is that every power seller there buys as much shit on ebay as probably 100 regular buyers. Fuck a power seller over and you loose a lot of sales too.

DEA 03-01-2012 08:35 PM

ebay's fees are way to high..the whole disputed sale thing is a pain in the ass..

really the ebay deals are gone ..there are so many place on the interwebnets these day to find a deal its not worth the timeand effort to mess with ebays cluster fuck

brassmonkey 03-01-2012 08:41 PM

i have no problem with that. http://www.internetretailer.com/2012...t-better-shape there are some good things as well.

candyflip 03-01-2012 08:44 PM

I have no problem selling on eBay and have won more than a handful of disputes with customers. If you cover your ass as a seller, they have to side with the seller.

kane 03-01-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18795445)
They are loosing business to amazon and instead of doing what has worked in the past they are trying to copy amazon. A seller can't even give a buyer neutral or negative feedback anymore. This defeats the whole purpose of a feedback system. They are so concerned about the buyers they screw the seller, what they dont think about is that every power seller there buys as much shit on ebay as probably 100 regular buyers. Fuck a power seller over and you loose a lot of sales too.

So even if a buyer fucks you over you can't leave anything but good feedback?

That is fucked up.

Back when I sold a lot of stuff I didn't have many problems, most of the buyers were cool, but there were a couple that were nightmares. It was nice to be able to leave neutral feedback on them so other sellers might beware.

Profits of Doom 03-01-2012 08:51 PM

I had a family friend growing up that until very recently owned a jewelry store at the Ft. Lauderdale Swap Shop, and I remember back in the day the Swap Shop would get raided by the feds every couple months. They would haul out loads and loads of counterfeit goods. Now I heard they were raided recently and the feds were targeting stolen goods, and they busted some huge ring of Easter European criminals that would target eBay in particular. They would buy goods, claim to never receive them, receive a refund, and then sell the goods at the Swap Shop. Then open a new account and rinse and repeat.

There are entire criminal groups targeting eBay like this now. It's a fucking shame because I used to buy and sell tens of thousands of dollars worth of goods on there, including all the overstock novelties from my old porn stores. Now I go there maybe once a year at best...

kane 03-01-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18795460)
I have no problem selling on eBay and have won more than a handful of disputes with customers. If you cover your ass as a seller, they have to side with the seller.

Luckily I only had a couple of problems with sellers. One was for an older 1970's organ. I put it up on ebay as a local pick up only auction. It weighed a ton so shipping it would cost a fortune. I got some bidders and ended up with a winner. The guy contacts me and we set up a time for him to come pick it up. He is going to pay cash when he picks it up. When he arrives he looks it over, likes it, then starts to haggle on the price with me. The final sale price was $400. Suddenly he wants to offer me $150 for it. I tell him no. It works as I claimed, everything is there as I claimed. For about 20 minutes we debated over the price and he started getting pissed. Finally he told me that he didn't want the bench it came with so he shouldn't have to pay the full price. I agreed to knock $50 off if he didn't take the bench. He wasn't happy with that and ended up leaving.

I contacted the next highest bidder and he came out the next day and bought it. Then the first guy shows back up at my house a few days later and agrees to pay the full price. I tell him I sold it to someone else and he flipped out. He was so pissed off I actually shut the door in his face and called the cops who came and told him to leave.

I left feedback explaining what this guy had done, but he never responded it to or me so there never was a dispute other than him being removed from my place by the cops.

I learned my lesson then. Never invite ebayers over.

kane 03-01-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 18795468)
I had a family friend growing up that until very recently owned a jewelry store at the Ft. Lauderdale Swap Shop, and I remember back in the day the Swap Shop would get raided by the feds every couple months. They would haul out loads and loads of counterfeit goods. Now I heard they were raided recently and the feds were targeting stolen goods, and they busted some huge ring of Easter European criminals that would target eBay in particular. They would buy goods, claim to never receive them, receive a refund, and then sell the goods at the Swap Shop. Then open a new account and rinse and repeat.

There are entire criminal groups targeting eBay like this now. It's a fucking shame because I used to buy and sell tens of thousands of dollars worth of goods on there, including all the overstock novelties from my old porn stores. Now I go there maybe once a year at best...

I used to buy storage units and sell the stuff I found in them. Sold thousands of items over the years, but the fees are so crazy now it isn't worth selling cheaper items. Hell, if you sell something for $5 by the time you pay the ebay and paypal fees you have next to nothing left.

Phoenix 03-01-2012 09:00 PM

awesome news.. :)

Fat Panda 03-01-2012 09:00 PM

ebay is a fucking joke. nobody uses that shitball site anymore

Choker 03-01-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18795460)
I have no problem selling on eBay and have won more than a handful of disputes with customers. If you cover your ass as a seller, they have to side with the seller.

Yeah but thats not the problem. My daughter has only had one dispute and the buyer quickly withdrew it after she pointed out to him that his first email contained a comment about leaving her feedback. (feedback extortion) The problem is buyers holding feedback over you while you have nothing. You have to kiss ass and sometimes loose money just to avoid negative feedback.

Some jerk just left her negative feedback because he didn't read the listing and thought it was something it wasnt. She can do nothing about this even though the listing cleary explains whats in it and anyone looking at it can realize that the buyer is wrong.

Choker 03-01-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 18795463)
So even if a buyer fucks you over you can't leave anything but good feedback?

That is fucked up.

Back when I sold a lot of stuff I didn't have many problems, most of the buyers were cool, but there were a couple that were nightmares. It was nice to be able to leave neutral feedback on them so other sellers might beware.

Can't do that anymore. You can only leave buyers positive. Also a buyer can leave you feedback if the transaction is not completed, IE a refund before you ship it even if it's at their request. That's just plain stupid.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 03-01-2012 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SAC (Post 18795481)
ebay is a fucking joke. nobody uses that shitball site anymore

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Nope, nobody. And nobody is making money there either. Not one red cent. :thumbsup

BIGTYMER 03-01-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 18795101)
If they drop Pay Pal and stop trying to be a poor mans Amazon they may stand a chance if not i give them 2 years tops before we see a chapter 13. There's some interesting shit on ebaysucks.com :2 cents:

Not a chance. They have very strong earnings. The stock market agrees as the stock is at a 1 yr high.

Profits of Doom 03-01-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18795474)
I used to buy storage units and sell the stuff I found in them. Sold thousands of items over the years, but the fees are so crazy now it isn't worth selling cheaper items. Hell, if you sell something for $5 by the time you pay the ebay and paypal fees you have next to nothing left.

Damn I love those damn storage unit shows, I think I spent an entire Saturday once watching a marathon. I heard those shows have drove the attendance at those auctions up through the roof nationwide...

kane 03-01-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 18795505)
Damn I love those damn storage unit shows, I think I spent an entire Saturday once watching a marathon. I heard those shows have drove the attendance at those auctions up through the roof nationwide...

That is what I understand. I guess there are a ton of people out there now looking into this.

I'm just about done writing an e-book on how to find the auctions, buy the units and make money off of them.

mayabong 03-01-2012 09:35 PM

I sell stuff on there sometimes.. only what I can't sell on craigslist. 9% fees + paypal fees and other fees are rough.

famous 03-01-2012 10:54 PM

paypal will always be used for ebay, its the same compnay. If you send out items with delivery confrimation or tracking as a seller you will NEVER ever loose and neither will the buyer. Paypal will side with you and reinburse the buyer out of thier pocket. I see it all the time ;)

Ebay also cans BUYERS just like sellers. If you are a new buyer or have lots of complaints against sellers they will ban you as well. It sucks we can't leave but positive feedback but thats the way it is. Amazon is just the same, you cant leave feedback for buyers at all.

brassmonkey 03-01-2012 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by famous (Post 18795615)
paypal will always be used for ebay, its the same compnay. If you send out items with delivery confrimation or tracking as a seller you will NEVER ever loose and neither will the buyer. Paypal will side with you and reinburse the buyer out of thier pocket. I see it all the time ;)

Ebay also cans BUYERS just like sellers. If you are a new buyer or have lots of complaints against sellers they will ban you as well. It sucks we can't leave but positive feedback but thats the way it is. Amazon is just the same, you cant leave feedback for buyers at all.

i leave feedback on amazon but if i flame the product they wont post it. :helpme also they have removed contact the seller :Oh crap

Spunky 03-01-2012 11:13 PM

They whine when shipping is expensive.they wont buy the item if shipping is twice the cost.I offer economy but it's stated at their own risk.EBay recognizes it if you state it in the listing

famous 03-01-2012 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18795617)
i leave feedback on amazon but if i flame the product they wont post it. :helpme also they have removed contact the seller :Oh crap

Well we sell alot thier as well and people contact us all the time ;) So must be their somewhere. If you leave a product review for the seller feedback then we can have it removed, its a simple form :) Did one today in fact. Neg was gone in less then a hour.

Thats a huge differnece between Amazon vs Ebay. Ebay under no circumstance will they remove or edit feedback unless it contains personal info or cursewords and thats hard to get done even some times.

96ukssob 03-02-2012 12:13 AM

Good, fuck ebay :thumbsup

its doing two things, weeding out the scammers and small time people ripping each other off with insane shipping rates.

if ebay wants to compete they have to be more like Amazon or similar sites

Choker 03-02-2012 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by famous (Post 18795615)
paypal will always be used for ebay, its the same compnay. If you send out items with delivery confrimation or tracking as a seller you will NEVER ever loose and neither will the buyer. Paypal will side with you and reinburse the buyer out of thier pocket. I see it all the time ;)

Ebay also cans BUYERS just like sellers. If you are a new buyer or have lots of complaints against sellers they will ban you as well. It sucks we can't leave but positive feedback but thats the way it is. Amazon is just the same, you cant leave feedback for buyers at all.

I was looking at amazon to set her up there also, but it apears their fees are easy 50% more than ebays. And at first glance I see several different types of confusing fees.

JFK 03-02-2012 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 18795505)
Damn I love those damn storage unit shows, I think I spent an entire Saturday once watching a marathon. I heard those shows have drove the attendance at those auctions up through the roof nationwide...

some auctions, now charge a 5 buck admission fee, because of the looky loos:winkwink:

kane 03-02-2012 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 18795686)
some auctions, now charge a 5 buck admission fee, because of the looky loos:winkwink:

It doesn't surprise me. The storage companies are always looking for ways to make more money.

What sucks is if you are a serious buyer who is looking for specific things like antique furniture. You would have to pay to get in with no guarantee that there will be something for you to bid on.


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