Is the cover about to be blown off of the CIA's prior knowledge of 9/11? Holy shit.
 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...up-charge.html

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I am not a conspiracy theorist. I think (thought) 9/11 was planned and executed by terrorists. But the CIA having knowledge of the terrorists being on our soil is just mind blowing. wow...just wow...Richard Clarke is a well respected guy.

Don't find it surprising at all if it was true.. It's the sort of stuff the CIA does and is supposed to do.. i.e. recruit for counter intelligence... And to do that, you have to work with the same people that might be trying to kill you.. Of course, at the time, everyone was arrogant enough to believe no one would ever attack the US on their own soil.. I seriously doubt that the CIA would do the same thing today knowing what they do now.

I've not heard this before, but it sounds plausible.

Similar to the way the ATF sold guns to Mexican drug cartels in hopes of tracking them, but it didn't work out so the ATF just ended up arming Mexican drug cartels and the same guns were used to kill innocent people, including U.S. agents.

Pretty much the same situation and pretty common in clandestine operations. The people that run the operations lose control pretty quickly then try to cover it up.

This proves nothing. All they need to say is "We wanted to know if it was possible so we were talking about it, that's all". And that will be that.

The CIA (FBI) has knowledge of all kinds of terrorists on our soil. They track them, but until they've done something wrong or until we can prove they are about to do something wrong, there is nothing they can do about it.

Most people DO :thumbsup

i was GONNA ask if you are really that stupid, but then i noticed you were rochard.

2,977 Died because of their "poor judgment"

Shit happens ... </sarcasm>

man, i don't know what to think about richard clarke eh. on the one hand, he spoke out big time against bushie and his shitty handling of terrorism.

but.

he was counter-terrorism czar when all the 9/11 terrorist infiltrated u.s. that gets an F from me.

and he also has been known to grandstand himself to sell his books, etc.

and ftr, check these brand spanking new youtube teaser videos out:



secrecy kills ..........looks like richard clarke's next money maker.

i am responsible for 9/11 and i alone..

try to wrap your heads around that... :2 cents:




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so you are Rich Blee!

Joint Statement from George J. Tenet, Cofer Black and Richard Blee
August 3, 2011


Richard Clarke was an able public servant who served his country well for many years. But his recently released comments about the run up to 9/11 are reckless and profoundly wrong.

Clarke starts with the presumption that important information on the travel of future hijackers to the United States was intentionally withheld from him in early 2000. It was not.

He wildly speculates that it must have been the CIA Director who could have ordered the information withheld. There was no such order. In fact, the record shows that the Director and other senior CIA officials were unaware of the information until after 9/11.

The handling of the information in question was exhaustively looked at by the 9/11 Commission, the Congressional Joint Inquiry, the CIA Inspector General and other groups.

The 9/11 Commission quite correctly concluded that ?...no one informed higher levels of management in either the FBI or CIA about the case.?

In early 2000, a number of more junior personnel (including FBI agents on detail to CIA) did see travel information on individuals who later became hijackers but the significance of the data was not adequately recognized at the time.

Since 9/11 many systemic changes have been made to improve the watchlisting process and enhance information sharing within and across agencies.

Building on his false notion that information was intentionally withheld, Mr. Clarke went on to speculate--which he admits is based on nothing other than his imagination--that the CIA might have been trying to recruit these two future hijackers as agents. This, like much of what Mr. Clarke said in his interview, is utterly without foundation.

Many years after testifying himself at length before the 9/11 Commission and writing several books but making no mention of his wild theory, Mr. Clarke has suddenly invented baseless allegations which are belied by the record and unworthy of serious consideration.

We testified under oath about what we did, what we knew and what we didn't know. We stand by that testimony.

thats just one of my cover names..

i report to the two headed lizard...




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put in a good word for me eh. :thumbsup

Two possibilities:
a) Government employees tracking thousands of people on watch lists see two more scary guys show up and decide to keep an eye on them. They see no reason run screaming to the white house at the moment.

b) Government employees tracking thousands of people on watch lists see two more scary guys show up and say to themselves "I bet these two plan to perpetrate the only major foreign attack on US soil since WWII. I bet they'll do it next Thursday. In New York. By plane. I should tell my boss right now, but I don't feel like it."

This was all before 9-11. There had never been an attack like that, so nobody was expecting it.

In answer to the thread title...no.

come on man are you just shit stirring ??

noone fired a tomahawk into the pentagon

I think there is a lot of shady shit about 9/11 that we'll never know about -- and probably don't want to know about ... but I know enough people that watched that plane fly into the pentagon -- in person -- to know it happened.

Whether it had people on board, etc., I cannot speculate ... but it was a plane.

Where's the wing debris?

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in the building with the rest of the plane? i dunno

u think it might have been a missile ?

lol @ your sig

I could understand the body vanishing inside with impact but shouldn't the wings be allover the exterior.

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yeah maybe

im thinking maybe because of the speed they sheared off or just initially sliced cleanly through the exterior. i do see some lower level damage that I could possibly attribute to damage from the wings.

i assume at the very least someone actually measured the width of the impact area and observed that it was larger than that of the wing span of the plane because if its not.......

ultimately though I would put nothing past any government

no shit... it was a cruise missile :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The one thing that concerns me is the spread of the damage. Not an explosive experts so this is a question. Wouldn't a big plane with it's wings full of fuel do more damage to the areas on the side of where the hole in the building is?

It seems to me the greatest damage was where the fuselage hit the building, not the wings.

As for the 9/11 conspiracy theory. It was shown on a documentary the FBI had information that a large terrorist attack was being planned and probably involving aircraft. This information was given to Bush before 9/11, he ignored it.

lol of course they knew about it. They did it.

You are probably right. However, I wish they would release more than 3 frames of video from the security cam. Releasing that would put an end to any Pentagon conspiracy in two seconds flat.

Bollocks. Just send them a letter saying you think they are a terrorist and ask for 500 bucks damages or you will take them to court. Works for Lightspeed!

the end, close thread:pimp

Why they dont show videos of "airplane" hitting pentaghon, yea right,,,

most 9/11 conspiracy "experts" are ex-cops ex-military ex-politicians usually with a history of legal, financial and relationship problems.

why is that? who benefits?

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GET :helpme

yeah the dozens of actual witnesses that were there and saw it with their own eyes were all a black ops plot.

Powers that be dont give a shit about 2997...They didnt care about Pearl Harbor, they didnt care about Cold Harbor...humans are ants to them...something you step on.

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Richard Clarke is a nutjob, can't be taken seriously.

Who the hell is Mohammad Gadhafi?

9 / 11 Conspiracy theories = BORING and STUPID.

Move along.