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Caligari 08-12-2011 07:29 PM

yes it does look like the pentagon-
look closely at the bottom of the building, the exposed cinder block leading to the upper part and the architecture.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2465das.jpg
now look at that huge pic to the left of the destruction, the part of the building left intact shows the same structure, exposed cinder block etc.
the chain link fence could have been there if they were doing construction and they could have easily extracted it in the large image.
But that image could also be of the part of the building that caught fire but was not directly hit.

raymor 08-12-2011 07:35 PM

Anybody who thinks hitting the world's largest building with a plane, search youtube for "kai tak landing" and then see what you think.

Matt 26z 08-12-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18351605)
that's not a picture of the pentagon 9/11 wreckage.

More angles before the upper floors collapsed clearly showing this is the Pentagon:
http://i54.tinypic.com/ka0aqc.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/23mu6wi.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18351704)
You estimate the main hole is about fifteen feet across. A 757 is
twelve and half feet across. So based on your estimate, the hole it's the right size.

Do you see any evidence of a wing, landing gear and an engine crashing into that wall? Shouldn't we see parts of the plane?

The photo again:

http://i54.tinypic.com/2465das.jpg

bushwacker 08-12-2011 08:56 PM

Yawn. There are dozens of photos of airplane wreckage outside the pentagon.

dyna mo 08-12-2011 09:25 PM

i placed the photo matt posted in the image i posted and see now it is the corner of the impact area:

http://oi53.tinypic.com/j0ea8m.jpg

but the essence of the picture is misleading, it is clearly not an accurate portrait of the central area of the impact zone.

Agent 488 08-12-2011 09:31 PM

it`s stupid to even argue this shit.

"but there was wreckage on the lawn."

"no, it is fake. it was placed there."

"their were eyewitnesses."

"no, they just saw a hologram."

pointless ...

Agent 488 08-12-2011 09:36 PM

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.asp

wehateporn 08-13-2011 06:21 AM

Eliminate The Impossible



Pornstarchive 08-13-2011 06:28 AM

Amazing we're about to hit the 10 yr "anniversary" of that event. I'm sure everyone remembers where they were when that hit the news. I was on my way to work about to drive to Los Angeles and I said "fuck that, they might attack here" so I called in. Turns out we were all told to stay home. Crazy day.

Caligari 08-13-2011 06:45 AM

Looking closer at the image within the image you can see clearly which part of the building it is. the insert photo is then post-impact and it shows that the part of the building which collapsed is still intact at the time of the photo.
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1804/pentbldg.jpg

Caligari 08-13-2011 07:17 AM

Really the idea of whether or not a plane hit the pentagon is not the issue, but has been made into an issue to further detract from the core issues of the event.

Along with other questions, the idea that 4 planes could go awol for about an hour and NONE of them were intercepted (the one plane downed only because the passengers on board attacked) is highly unlikely, especially considering the target areas.
Yes, other planes had strayed in the past and were not intercepted immediately, but 4 airplanes unchallenged hitting their targets, and extremely sensitive targets at that?

How an awol commercial airplane penetrated pentagon airspace should be the question,
of which there are two answers.

1)through incompetence and negligence the airplane penetrated pentagon airspace and hit the pentagon
2)it was allowed to hit the pentagon

either way its pretty damn bad.

MediaGuy 08-13-2011 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18351290)
my comment re: the bbc was sarcasm.

re: the share info, there are some very well research that corroborates the lackof sharing info and the competitive nature between the entities and the overall clusterfuck of intel gathering and disseminating. + this all goes to what clarke is basing his sensationalizing on.

Yes and this is just one of the *many* coincidences and "mistakes" reported that day...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18351420)
No, this is not a "coincidence". Drills run every day. Drills are run every day. I bet you that some branch of the government ran a drill today, and I bet you that one branch of the military ran a drill today.

People are grabbing at straws here. It's become way too easy to say "Oh, well, on 9/11 this person said this over the police radio" and it instantly becomes fact, and people have to debate it for years. That's like saying "Bush was in Florida that morning, and that was odd, him not being in White House, so clearly he must have planned this".

Keep in mind the people that behind the 9/11 Truth Movement make money doing this.

But there are so many of these "coincidences" it's ridiculous...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18351605)
that's not a picture of the pentagon 9/11 wreckage.

Not of the wreckage but of the damage after the no-wreckage crash.

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18351809)
Normal landing speed for a 757 is around 180 knots, or 210 miles per hour. The exact target speed depends on the weight on board. Stall speed is only about 120 mph. Nobody thinks it was going under 120, so we can forget about a stall. It was going about 250, so not anywhere near stall.

So that leaves the question, can someone who was trained to land at 210 instead crash land at 250? Of course! It's about as difficult as crashing your car into a building at 80 mph.

And it was reported that all the flights were going over 500 mph before their "crashes"...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18352445)
Really the idea of whether or not a plane hit the pentagon is not the issue, but has been made into an issue to further detract from the core issues of the event.

Along with other questions, the idea that 4 planes could go awol for about an hour and NONE of them were intercepted (the one plane downed only because the passengers on board attacked) is highly unlikely, especially considering the target areas.
Yes, other planes had strayed in the past and were not intercepted immediately, but 4 airplanes unchallenged hitting their targets, and extremely sensitive targets at that?

How an awol commercial airplane penetrated pentagon airspace should be the question,
of which there are two answers.

1)through incompetence and negligence the airplane penetrated pentagon airspace and hit the pentagon
2)it was allowed to hit the pentagon

either way its pretty damn bad.

That's another huge hole in the official story... all the "incompetence" theories are hard to swallow because there are so many incompetence incidents. And then there's testimony that wasn't issued or covered by the 9/11 commission report of people who knew the plane was headed into the Pentagon..

And then, all the "incompetents" were promoted.

:D

Agent 488 08-13-2011 08:12 AM

please read and rebut (i know you wont though)

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Payne_Stewart

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Intercept_time

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Stand_Down

as you can see most 9/11 conspiracy truisms are based up deception, omission, lies and fraud ... ironically the same thing you accuse the government of.

sorry they are not in youtube format. you may have to read.

MetaMan 08-13-2011 08:18 AM

Israel pulled off 9/11. they run the usa govt. pure fascism. israel was created by us german businessmen BEFORE WW2 as a place to control the usa from outside.

anyone who thinks otherwise is a complete idiot.

Caligari 08-13-2011 09:50 AM

haha 911 truth is about as bad as snopes.
snopes - a smug douchebag couple from los angeles who have somehow cornered the "truth" market by finding it on the internet;)

the payne stewart story is such a bad example of awol plane interception it's pathetic.

"air traffic controllers in Florida lost touch with a Learjet carrying golfer Payne Stewart and several companions after it left Orlando headed for Dallas, Texas."
wow a golfer heading for dallas,texas...please call out the national guard while your at it.
just a few things-
1)plane not headed into sensitive airspace i.e. THE PENTAGON, WORLD TRADE CENTER.
2)that was one plane, NOT 4. chance of not intercepting one of the 4 is like getting struck by lightning.
3)from the intel the government obviously knew MONTHS before the attack (read FBI- flight school intel) how they were not totally primed and ready for such an attack is beyond belief...

...that is, unless they were absolutely primed and ready. Lihop

L-Pink 08-13-2011 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 18351934)
.

Matt, you are correct that is the Pentagon, sorry. :)

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Agent 488 08-13-2011 10:01 AM

of course i don't expect you to "get it." you are too brainwashed by your reality tunnel. you could read it and you will just superimpose your belief system on to it. you probably aren't going to read it anyhow so whatever.

back to your point, the Payne Stewart case is used as proof in the stand down theories.

i don't know what you are trying to say? can you dispute any of the arguments in those links?

or maybe the site itself is a black ops, hmmm?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18352745)
haha 911 truth is about as bad as snopes.
snopes - a smug douchebag couple from los angeles who have somehow cornered the "truth" market by finding it on the internet;)

the payne stewart story is such a bad example of awol plane interception it's pathetic.

"air traffic controllers in Florida lost touch with a Learjet carrying golfer Payne Stewart and several companions after it left Orlando headed for Dallas, Texas."
wow a golfer heading for dallas,texas...please call out the national guard while your at it.
just a few things-
1)plane not headed into sensitive airspace i.e. THE PENTAGON, WORLD TRADE CENTER.
2)that was one plane, NOT 4. chance of not intercepting one of the 4 is like getting struck by lightning.
3)from the intel the government obviously knew MONTHS before the attack (read FBI- flight school intel) how they were not totally primed and ready for such an attack is beyond belief...

...that is, unless they were absolutely primed and ready. Lihop


Caligari 08-13-2011 10:27 AM

oye vey...why bother quoting my post when you haven't bothered to read it?
once again, and for the last time-
payne stewart -1999 case, poor example because-
1)awol plane not flying into sensitive airspace i.e. THE PENTAGON, WORLD TRADE CENTER
2)not intercepting one plane is possible, not intercepting 4 planes is highly improbable considering the intel the gov had prior to 9/11.

you see, just because a site posts an example of an intercept/standown scenario doesn't make it applicable to all other scenarios. it doesn't make it the truth barometer.

something to consider- the sky is not blue and grass is not green.


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