why are we having to guess re: the situation with that nuclear reactor?
 

why isn't there an international team that's in that facility assessing the situation and reporting shit straight up? instead we have to rely on occasional mixed reports from various jap gov agencies.


that's fucked!

Yeah, it's not that I don't trust them...

this morning, weren't they saying that the reactor was cooling and radiation levels were lowering? How can that be if they keep releasing steam??

okay, maybe i don't trust them...

Mixed reports from government agencies or is it mixed reports from our own media? I think the Japanese techs are quite capable of doing all that can be done.

BTW...those that are trying to control the situation are probably walking dead men...as there have already been reports of radiation sickness...with some of the techs.

it's not a matter of capability, it's a matter of transparency. if a killer radioactive cloud can be released worldwide, i think it's more than fair to be very transparent and forthcoming with the status of the situation via a 3rd party analyzing and reporting on the situation from within.

i was close enough to chernobyl during its accident to be afraid the first radioactive cloud would rain on us. after the incident, when many facts became clear, everyone believed that only in a stupid soviet system such lying, deceipt and gross negligence on the part of authorities was possible. and yet here we are again, this time a major democratic power, doing the exact same cover up as the soviets...

i saw a dark purple smoke at sunset we're dead dude most of us will probably be zombies by morning.

I'm packing my truck and heading east. I have no intention of dying from Japanese radiation.

exactly.
exactly.

at this very moment: it's unclear whether or not there is a meltdown.

I feel for those working there... :(

[8:47 p.m. ET, 10:47 a.m. Tokyo] A state of emergency has been declared for three reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. Roughly 180,000 people who live within 10 to 20 kilometers of the Daiichi plant are being evacuated.

There has not been a meltdown...and it will become apparent to all if there is a meltdown.

i have a craving for brains 2 nite.

it seemed that most of the workers who would have been the experts fled for their own lives when it first went down...im sure some stayed...but many said they were evacuated from there.

IAEA is sending in a team to verify the situation, finally. unbe;ievable.

State of emergency declared at Japan's Onagawa nuclear plant; excessive radiation levels recorded, IAEA says.

Further reports are saying that the increased radiation levels are due to the neighboring plants that are having problems.

Don't know if that is a good thing or not. Same thing happened when Chernobyl went up, it was Swedish nuclear plants that recorded increased radiation levels followed by other European plants.

that's been the case for days now and the IAEA got that information from the japnese gov. not from their own assessment

That one was just reported. Maybe you are not using reliable news sources.

Whenever something goes tits up in America does an international team come and stick their nose in?

they are lying. simple. our leaders are criminals.

You can count on a worst case scenario on this one. Use your head, use common sense, and trust no government.

regardless of what news sources i have access to, the problem is not me or the news, it's the japanese government.
don't be ridiculous. that has zero to do with the topic. and i can assure you, i'd approve of international law that requires an inspection such as i am suggesting.

count on worst case? i thought u didn't like gfy experts.

i'm not being ridiculous. Japan isn't some 3rd world dictatorship that will spout completely unbelievable bullshit for the sake of it.

International laws only apply to countries that voluntarily sign up to abide by them.

you might to reconsider that assumption. experts interviewed on several news reports state otherwise.

i understand the voluntary nature of some interntational laws and my comment still stands.

you can make this about me all you want but the fact is this about transparency in light of what could be a major event. you might think it's unfair because america is whatever, or because jap officials tell truth but i think differently.

meltdown is in motion

oh and for the record, what happened today was tepco told the government there is an emergency situation.

hardly a state of emergency declaration and not an official one as released by a government.

you can continue to try and make this about me or you can see that we are not being given viable information.

I was merely correcting what I saw as an inaccuracy in your post.

you might want to change your style then and stop assuming you are right and others are wrong.

or just shut the fuck up if you don't know what the fuck you are yapping about.

Tell me what I got wrong?

srsly?

dude said state of emergency declared today

i said no, that's not what happened today.

you said yes, it was just reported and you raised the question about my news sources. <- that's wrong.



there was no state of emergency declared today and my news sources are more than adequate.

the problem seems to be: no power, no controls and you can't look into the steel mantle of the reactor. they have no clue whats going on in there, they can just try to cool it down from the outside and hope that this is working. no one tried that before.

You're making it about you - seem mega touchy for some reason.

A lot of the conflicting opinions in Japan are likely to be because not many people are going to think "oooh a possible nuclear disaster, I must go and have a proper close-up look". Far safer to theorise from a distance.

I really cannot understand why you think you are not being given viable information.

Some radiation has been released into the atmosphere and some people are being treated for radiation exposure while thousands of others have been evacuated from the area...as the Japanese fight to prevent a total meltdown in up to three facilities. What do you find to be not viable?

do you seriously think they are going to tell the truth if a catastrophe is about to happen?

the media would create widespread panic in the US just for the sake of ratings..

sometimes you have to keep things secret until the worst happens just to keep order...

if they came out and said there is a good chance they are going to have a total meltdown and the western US would be effected, you would see total chaos in the US..

if the worse case scenarios are true, you are talking about an entire shutdown of the western US and the US govt would not be able to keep any kind of order...





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even though this is gfy, i was surprised to find myself having to defend the position of thnking it's better to have better information. i was esp. surprised to find myself arguing that point with you.

here are just 2 quotes i found illustrating the issue.

the lack of transparency re: what is the most catastrophic nuclear event of our lifetimes and i'm having to defend the position of wanting more accurate info.

that's gfy!

jesus fucking christ.

hole jp will probably go under after meltdown

Just like brains here on GFY.