gather round, obama trolls! a lesson on taxes.
 

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040tt.pdf

if you're married and have a taxable income of $40k you pay $5,169.00 (roughly 13% of your income) for the luxury of living in the united states.

if you're married and have a taxable income of $1mil you pay $320,362.00 (roughly 32% of your income) for that exact same luxury.

just to recap, if the $1mil guy didn't pay 61 times the amount of tax that the $40k guy did, imagine how worse off your life would be.

How do you justify the crassness of wanting to deny them the tax cut that YOU yourself, who pay 61 times less in taxes than they do, enjoy?

other countries are worst so whatever..Im still voting for his ass in 2012

Based on what reasoning?

I came to realize several years ago, well actually more than a decade ago, that most people have to actually be in that upper tax bracket before they can even begin to understand the unfairness that being in such a tax bracket brings, no matter how clearly illustrated ones facts are laid out.

In other words you can lead a herd of half-retarded horses to water but....

so, the bigger guy is paying a bigger share to make more money. that seems fair doesn't it?

You think being taxed nearly 3x more is fair?

Why should he pay a larger percentage? If they both pay the same percentage the wealthier is still paying more taxes. How do you justify that?

5 x 25 = 125

Overtaxing people who employ a lot of people is ridiculous.. the money they would make in taxes from the possible hundreds or even thousands of workers of these employers would probably make up the difference if not bring in more tax money in the end. Wouldn't it?

That $1M is not company money. That's salary or wages.

i think the bottom line here is, if you don't like it, leave. Right?

if the 20% of the nation who controls 90% of it's wealth has some issues with the taxes in your country

maybe they should call a vote :)

They did. It's called tax cuts for the wealthy.:winkwink:

We should just roll it back to the Reagan era tax rates.

haha touche

That's an utter fallacy, but carry on.

:2 cents:

Look at all the myriad of jobs created by Bush's 2001 + 2003 tax cuts! Oh... Wait... That didn't happen. Not only did it NOT happen, but the gap between the rich and poor has widened substantially as the middle class disappears. If the middle class disappears further, we are in for some serious shit.

Only for the last 8 years or so and I don't fault that because of policy, but rather the second worst economic times in our history.

I think it should go back to what the government promised when the income tax was enacted. 1% and 7%.

The disappearing middle class, the poverty stricken who own their own homes, cars, multiple TVs, and iPhones......

Oh how the uneducated are lead with lies....

fuck off 12dicks seriously. So what you are suggesting is that a millionaires should pay the EXACT same $ amount as a person making $40k? Maybe the millionaires should realize if he didn't have a bunch of guys making LESS than $40K risking their asses on the front lines he wouldn't be a millionaire.

tax brackets = stupid.

I'm paid on a W2 and I have to keep my salary $1 below the next tax bracket or I end up paying a lot more taxes... $10k more a year and I would be making less

Hello. I went to College in Canada. I passed a course on Canadian personal taxation. I also passed a course about Canadian corporate taxation. Message me on icq or email for talks if needed. The way Canadian laws are right now, both spouses are allowed to be of the same gender.

No, you fucking imbecile.

In the example shown, A paid 13% of total income to taxes.

He's suggesting that is what the "rich" should be paying, as well. 13% of total income.

Since when do rich people actually pay taxes anyway?

Name me one person on here talking this crap who make $1 mil who pays the tax table rate.....NOBODY!!!

Look at the proposition:

Would you rather pay 5K to make 40K or 300K to make 1M?
Seems a fairly simple decision to make.

I do find it interesting that the 'hold the line on debt' group is going to extend unemployment for 13 months while
simultaneously cutting taxes and not cut and other expenses. I'd like to know how the plan to keep it all debt neutral lol.

Ah, yes.

Because the government ALLOWS us to make money, right? Surely, it's not our hard work or ingenuity.

It's simply a press of the button!

It's not even a "tax cut". It's like a partial refund. They rip off the rich and then give a little back, and people bitch because they give them a little bit of THEIR own money back.

And it's not even so much that the person who makes a million pays 61 times more. Naturally the more you make the more you pay. However the tax rate should be the same for everyone. Everyone should pay 25% or whatever. Just because you make more and are successful, doesn't give them a right to bump you up to the 35% bracket. So then they give you a "break" and you only pay 32% and people still bitch the same people who are getting taxed at a 20% rate... the nerve. People are stupid. There is no justification for raping rich people just because they have more money.

They're "credits", basically.

Because Richard is a socialist.

Taxes are a referral fee.
You want to sell something, you pay a commission to the entity that provides the infrastructure, security and customers for you.
If you think you can run a business without the help of the US market, military security, etc etc go ahead.

That provides the infrastructure?

I provide the infrastructure.

Infrastructure is paid with taxes. I pay taxes. I pay for the military.

What is this bullshit with the "you rather pay to make" Pay to make has nothing to do with it. It isn't a license fee. Ok millionaires, you need to pay a 100K license fee. You don't pay to make. You make and then you get raped.

You people who think it is ok for someone to pay 35% of their income to taxes and someone else to pay 25% of their income to taxes are just straight up either fucking stupid, socialist, or broke and bitter.

There is no justification for higher tax brackets the more you make other than retarded, greedy people (YES GREEDY) who don't make a lot of money and who don't want to pay for any thing themselves. The vast majority of people only pay 25% or less, so they can vote anything in because its the majority of the people. The small percentage of people at the top may have a lot of money but they can not control the majority of votes. Which is why our tax code is the way it is, because people who make 50K a year are GREEDY. They don't want to pay their fair share. They are the fucks who use more of the public services, public schools, etc... but they want to rich person to pay a high % so the govt can take even MORE money from the rich guy so the greedy middle class person can keep most of what they make.

It's not fair anyway you cut it. I thought that way when I paid taxes on 10K a year and when I paid taxes on 300K a year. You can't justify it. It's straight up theft.

Not to mention the inheritance tax. Talk about a fucking joke that one is. A guy makes 15 million dollars, pays taxes on ALL Of it, and has 10 million dollars. He then dies and leaves it to his fucking kid, the govt can then tax that 10 million up to 60% depending on the situation. Money that has already been earned and paid taxes on gets taxed (cut in half) again just because the person died. That's the worst tax of all. Fuck by the time they done with you and you pay 30%+ in income taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, and the 30+ other taxes, what you have left over when you die gets whacked in half. the govt keeps taking and taking, its bullshit.

And a bunch of punks get their panties in a wad because the "rich" people get to keep paying 35% instead of 37%.... when they only pay 20%... go fuck yourself.


So what, it's still wrong to do even if we aren't making a million dollars. Its a fucked up way to run a govt. Punish the successful people and reward the unproductive.

Seriously.

I can't understand how people forget that the people PAY the government.

They act as if we should be greatful for what we have when we're the ones paying for it, supplying it, building it, and defending it.

Consumption Tax FTW. No more IRS.

Great analogy, but usually the more volume you do, the better rates you get? For example: cc processing, process $10k/year pay 15%, process 10M/year pay 5%...
a structure like that motivates people to push harder so they can get better rates, doesn't it?
but with the government, it's just the reverse? what gives? :helpme

The rabble always think we've succeeded because of the government.
The relentlesses of the world never imagine it's hard work and intelligence that sets their betters apart from them

12 Dicks you are in desperate need of one of these:

http://imagineannie.files.wordpress....ht-jacket1.jpg

Oh please, I could get into the trash business tomorrow and succeed and you'd be the guy riding the back of the truck explaining how the government provided my way.

Trash like you never get it. It's why at 40 some years old, you still live with your mom and add text to videos:1orglaugh

When is the slut boat's next cruise again?:1orglaugh