lol, why dont you propose a new tax system or something helpful?

Hey, did you know that frivolous luxury spending is on the increase? Hows the toast points and caviar today? I only eat mine while wearing some dead animal with my feet propped up on a servant.

You don't really have the slightest clue as to what's happening before your very eyes, do you? The US middle class is being systematically wiped out, and you're all for it. Over the last several decades, it has continuously shrunk, and right now about 90% of the wealth is owned by 8% of the people. And guess where your bread & butter comes from? That's right, the middle the class. They're the people who keep money flowing into your bank account.

You're a hard-core conservative, and are all for less government, lower taxes, plus cut the spending, right? Take a wild guess as to where that's going to lead to. Keep taxes low for the rich, plus cut spending, which will have to come from somewhere (social security, Medicare, unemployment, VA, whatever).

Continue pushing that agenda, and you're going to end up with a country that has rich elites, a bunch of slaves, and a bunch of homeless. That's it though, and that's what your country will consist of. And guess what? You're not a rich elite, and there won't be anyone around with enough money to buy your porn anymore, so you'll be shit out of luck too.

poor deluded child.
I'm for lower taxes for everyone.
oh, and don't believe the hype. the middle class is not shrinking. the governmental class warfare artists are just redrawing the lines to make it seem so.

alert the media :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

It sure sucks that all the long term capital investments the wealthy have only get taxed at 15% (capital gains).

So you are saying profits shouldn't be taxed?

richard, did you know that here in america nearly 40 percent of all poor households actu ally own their own homes. On average, this is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.

Eighty-four percent of poor households have air conditioning.

Nearly two-thirds of the poor have cable or satellite TV.

Only 6 percent of poor households are over crowded; two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.

The typical poor American has as much or more living space than the average individual living in most European countries. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)

Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 31 percent own two or more cars.

Ninety-eight percent of poor households have a color television; two-thirds own two or more color televisions.

Eighty-two percent own microwave ovens; 67 percent have a DVD player; 73 percent have a VCR; 47 percent have a computer.

The average intake of protein, vitamins, and minerals by poor children is indistinguishable from that of children in the upper middle class.

so you see _richard_ our poor live better than YOU do. Imagine how much better our middle class lives than you.:thumbsup

this is an entirely different subject but thats exactly what I'm saying. its an economy killer.
when the profits trickle down to an actual person, they get taxed. so NO ONE profits without being taxed.
this idiot mindset that a corporation should somehow be treated like a live person and taxed, is just another governmental money grab.
it hurts economic growth and stifles job growth.

own eh? really.

Ummm, they're not. That's why corporations and personal individuals fill out different income tax returns.

sucks for who?
all but the dumbest Americans have retirement accounts and investments. they benefit from the 15% cap gains rate.
once you're older, you'll have a better understanding of how it works.

hahahaha.

tell me son, how does a corporation fill out a tax return? is it the same way they drive a car?
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you mean poor? Why should a guy running a hedge fund make $200mn and just be taxed at the 15% rate.

I have no problem with lowering some taxes, but they need to close the loopholes to actually reflect the real tax rate. Until then it needs to go up

Typical 12clicks and his usual boring insults, not even creative enough to come up with new insults. Let me guess, you will respond by saying that all us "children" "bottom rungers" etc are not worth a creative response. Well you continue to respond to us "losers" don't you. I love how you call everyone else trolls, you are above and beyond the biggest troll in the history of GFY.
Ahh 12clicks the most predictable person on this board. Most often you resort to calling names is because they have no valid argument left. One of the biggest flaws in in people like yourself as a whole is that you will argue to the death something that you believe even if all the evidence points to you being wrong. Emotion takes over and begins to dictate your actions since facts will no longer support your argument and next thing you know your resorting to insults.

Huh? You've never incorporated a company before, have you?

and here we're back to the disconnect.

if the guy made $200mil and paid 15% he paid THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS for the same services you paid $10k for

he's paying more than his far share and more than you will in your lifetime but somehow, thats not enough for you.

don't envy your betters, become them

Oh no is that only $700,000 dollars the millionaire is left with?

The same $700,000 that it would take the guy making $40,000 a year 17 and a half years to make?

Cry me a fucking river. You want to play in the system then you pay for the system it's as simple as that. Don't like it? TOUGH SHIT. Just because you have money doesn't mean everything should be catered to you.

Although I do love watching 12clicks get owned over, and over and over and....

It is apparent that you do not like a progressive tax rate but that has been and still is our tax system...and until...if ever...it is changed you can cry about it all you want to...but you also will have to live with it.

I think there are better ways to tax...but it does please me to hear your constant whining about having to pay into a progressive system.

and here's an example of a bottom runger who'll never amount to anything and never understand why.

He'll always believe he's owed something he's not smart enough to achieve.

guess what, loser. you boy caved. the tax cuts will be extended for everyone including your betters.:thumbsup

pathfinder, as it pleases me to know that your life is so pathetic that you stoop to pretending to die on a chat board and return as your friend "the king":1orglaugh

Yeah, don't worry about 12clicks. He's apparently under the impression that corporations like BofA, ExxonMobil and Halliburton fill out the same income tax form as he does. He doesn't seem to know that if you have a corporation, you end up with a completely different tax code. He also doesn't seem to know that personal income tax only applies to what executives pull out of their companies, and not what the company makes.

they dont own any of that shit you thick headed dumbass..

its all financed...

and a lot of them are one paycheck away from being bankrupt...

the more you speak, the bigger clown you become...

go put on your big shoes and red nose and leave the conversation to adults...


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Of course it's a good thing....

100% of everything we have today was built on the backs of people making lower wages. They are the true life blood of America and the middle class consume like crazy. They are the reason the rich are rich and why each of us are here today..... from labor to buying power!

We should all pay more so those that help create this wonderful life can also enjoy life..


P.S. Only complete morons pay max tax in any tax bracket.

LOL 12clicks you're too predictable I could have written that post for you.

page 2 and the bottom dwelling obama trolls are all here.

God, its a laugh watching trolls show up and try to seem relevant in my thread. If only they worked that hard to be relevant in real life.......maybe they WOULD be.:1orglaugh

Oh look, that rich guy with enough time to troll us all on gfy. :1orglaugh


P.S. We're on page 3.

its not as funny as watching you try to remain relevant and act like you carry some type of respect here..

your peers think you are a clown....

how's that feel?

but i enjoy your company, so please don't leave anytime soon...




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hahaha, I guess my peers told you that when you finally hit their minimum payout?
did they slip that into the envelope?:1orglaugh

I just wonder, do your imaginary wins on the board make your pathetic real life more tolerable?

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

knowing that i get under your skin gives me pleasure...

especially considered that i don't give a seconds thought about your comments..

i love how everyone that challenges your opinion is either pathetic, lives in their mom's basement, or works at mcdonalds...

you sound more like sleazydream everyday...

maybe you are on the same path to failure that he went on and you are just getting more and more bitter as you get closer to the end..

must suck for you that you failed in mainstream and so now you dont have anywhere else to go after adult..

why dont you shoot me over your resume, maybe i could see if i could find something for you..

here's a little thought to chew on....

there is always the truth and one of us knows what that is when we look in the mirror..

and based on that fact, i will always be the winner.... :thumbsup



gotta run, i just got called in the work the fryer tonight....




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The problem is the guy who makes $1mil pays an account to get him out of paying taxes. I know I do.

Gotta love deluded GFYers, their imaginary abilities, and Mom's mirrors.
Coming to my threads when I call them and explaining how they get under my skin:1orglaugh

Have him explain the phrase "taxable income"
It will be very enlightening for you.
Especially as it pertains to my post.

And you see, without the so called "unaccomplished, uneducated losers", the rich wouldn't be rich. If it were possible for everyone to be rich, then surely they would.

But then, this has nothing to do with the argument whatsoever, it's a mere ploy by you to avoid the truth. It is, after all, the so called "unaccomplished, uneducated losers" who keep the world going. Without them, you (not you in particular, but the rich in general) would have fuck all.

Let us not forget, the big bank bail outs didn't help the so called "unaccomplished, uneducated losers"; no.. those people lost the most. Foreclosures, interest rate increases, etc etc. All so the rich could stay rich.

And don't even get me started on Obama.. he's the best example of anti small business, anti middle class that I've ever seen put into office... so to even complain and/or bash the tax bracket when everything he's done since he's been put into office has been done to keep the rich rich, is quite hilarious.

And finally.. why do you guys keep harping on the issue as if rich people actually pay those taxes. It doesn't matter if it's a 250k a year family, or a multi millionaire.. they know how to avoid taxes, and do so.

It's just so ironic that the rich have the gull to complain. If you idiots had it your way, the middle and lower class would all be homeless, or better yet, wiped out completely that way you morons could be as greedy as you want to be.. oh but wait.. it's the middle and lower class that keeps your pockets lined to begin with...

As I told you before, your posts expose the reasons why you'll always be at the bottom.
Your post is SI fully laughable there's no point in refuting one idiot point because it would imply the rest of it wasn't as nonsensical.

For someone who has had so much to say, why is it you can only flame when presented with the reality of what's going on?

And you shouldn't assume anything about me.. I'm by no means a millionaire (and we both know you aren't either, so don't front) but I'm by no means at the bottom either... Assuming you know anything about me while trying to bash and belittle me while avoiding reality just shows how full of shit you are, friend.

Here's what I know, halfwit, you raced home from your day job to post this. To try to seem relevant and smart in a business I've succeeded in for 13yrs.
Your bottom of the barrel. I don't have to assume it. Your idiot logic gives away your limitations and your lack of self awareness makes you think you're hiding it well.

It's as simple as that.:1orglaugh

ITT: lots of broke fucks revealed themselves.

Look at that.. more name calling, bashing and belittling.. all because you want to keep avoiding reality.

Call me more names if it makes you feel superior to someone you don't know anything about.. in the end, you're just showing how big an idiot you are ><

PS. The difference between you and I: You have the never ending need to try and prove how successful you are on an internet message board in hopes of feeling just a little bit better about yourself, while I couldn't give a fuck what you think about me. You have this huge chip on your shoulders and you absolutely must try and prove to everyone that you're successful. I know where I stand and have nothing to prove to anyone, which is why I can actually speak on topics like this while you just keep on dodging reality.

You confuse identifying you for what you are with name calling. Now run along little fella, no one's impressed.