real question...what do u guys think of prenups?
 

does a fiancee have any reason to trip over this shit???

my wife didnt make me sign one...

I think its a necessity in today's day and age but it should also only be considered on a case to case basis.

i had one made up, but i forgot to have her sign it haha guess im stuck with her forever or till death do us part!

how much does it cost to go through the paperwork for one????

if you don't live in a community property state, i advise you get one . . . especially since the odds are against you

i was thinking about it..but fiancee is tripping over it right now....u guys have any recommendations on how to bring it up "nicely"

Based on this question you don't need one. Just marry her.

Tell her it protects her from inheriting your debts.

yeah....thats a good one...unfortunately...
too bad shes the one that has debts, not me.

so tell her it keeps you from inheriting her debts.

:Oh crap

arguing begins.....

CYA ... cover your ass! tell her that you know your relationship is so strong that you know it would have to be something serious for you two to break up and it would get ugly so its best to think about it now.

what are the odds that you have assets to worry about?

Totally unromantic to start off a relationship assuming you will break up BUT I do understand why people do them.

Just remember that the majority of females base things more on emotion rather than logic. Tell her that it doesn't have anything to do with the way you feel or that you're preparing yourself for your next relationship, but that you would want things to be fair for her and for you. If you end up broke one day and you end up with a lot of debt, then it will definitely be divided up. But tell her this prenup is just to make things easier if anything EVER happens. People are not perfect and prenups definitely help the couple to remain independent and not too reliable on each other - a healthier balance in other words.

Many divorces are because of money situations - so if both people knew how to hold their own, there would not be a problem.

The problem is when you get married your usually not making much money to begin with so it's not something your thinking. Years later when you own multiple houses and cars and a business....... yeah, it's a mess.

Exactly.

There is no nice way unfortunately. The options are you either sign one, and then get married. Or you wait until I have amassed wealth, while with you unmarried,..

then later get married so you are not entitled to anything I had prior to the marriage. Only the fruits of labor.


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I think they are a must have. I agree that it is not romantic to talk about the potential demise of a marriage when it is just starting. But I also think it is foolish to get married without one.

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One potential way to soften the blow is to approach it as a prenup is not just about money. You can add all kinds of stuff to one. Then ease the financial stuff in the side door.

romance doesn't put gas in the v12.

I think they're pretty much a necessity these days.

I like bonkerz2007's idea of how to broach the subject.

I think they're pretty much a necessity these days.

I like bonkerz2007's idea of how to broach the subject.

No Its A Must Have If She Gives You Shit Get Another Girl

I'm never going to have to worry about it again...I learned about the mistake of marriage this last time and don't plan on being a repeat offender....not that I have any assets left for someone to go after anyways...

My company was already established etc so my wife had no problem signing one. Pretty much protects myself and my company if anything should happen.

Tell her you have too many people depending on you for their livelyhood, (That was established before you met) and it's a necessity to protect those individuals, and business affiliations in today's business climate.
(Yeah, that sounds good)

Ya I know, she sounded pretty pumped about it on the phone with me the other day :thumbsup

If your partner was making more than you, like a lot more, and she asked you to sign one, would you sign it or move on?

If you have a business and have partners and she's not one of them you owe it to your partners to have a prenup done.

If she makes a scene about it then you just saved yourself the expenses of a wedding and a honeymoon. And also all the I told you so that would bug the hell out of you ;-)

My upcoming marriage is really nothing more than a highly modified prenuptial agreement, power of attorney, and a few other contracts. We did not involve the state at all. So by state law we will not be married (think gay marriage). We get every benefit aside from some federal/state tax shit.

ummm, what?

so i gave up $100 bones and you ain't even getting married! you bastard!

hehe, j/k hope it helps

Prenups rock. saving my ass as we speak. If the asset level is close then no worries if it is skewed then why would she hesitate? I had about 4k into my prenup fees.

Call me ignorant but why does the wife always get half???

I mean why does she fucking deserve it?
Whats the logic behind this shit?

Remember that prenups WILL be challenged in a messy divorce....For my first marriage, I went to the library and drew up some bullshit prenup based on a template prenup and it was grossly in her favor...I challenged the validity of it during the divorce which made it invalid..

Even if you have a lawyer draw up the prenup, if it leave the woman with next to nothing, it will probably be ruled invallid anyway....

Best thing to do is do what Aftershock did and just sign some contracts and a power of attorney...

the necessity for a prenup depends mostly on the state of residence.

Great posts. I agree with the majority here, I think protecting your hard earned wealth is important. People who think everything is rosy forever are kidding themselves. You should Absolutely have a prenup if the situation warrants it.

i think a prenup is wise for most anyone these days

Think about this if a girls shows her fangs about the topic of a Prenup, just imagine how vicious she would be in a divorce court.
The courts are set-up against the man....you have to protect yourself

if you got the flow do it, otherwise why bother :)